Mr Lee still says it is not his fault

[Fook Seng]

You are correct. The problem is not LKY but those who aborted.

It is a case of Don't blame the Cook if the food doesn't taste good, blame the taste buds of the diners.

 

[enterprise2]

If not his fault than whose??? He is the master social engineer.

 

[0939]

Problems lie with those not getting married. Every where i go, especially NTUC supermarts and others, I see family with at least two kids.

 

[Jlokta]

got such policy meh? Tell us about it

If you can read.



"The government responded with policies intended to further reduce the birth rate. Abortion and voluntary sterilization were legalized in 1970. Between 1969 and 1972, a set of policies known as "population disincentives" were instituted to raise the costs of bearing third, fourth, and subsequent children. Civil servants received no paid maternity leave for third and subsequent children; maternity hospitals charged progressively higher fees for each additional birth; and income tax deductions for all but the first two children were eliminated. Large families received no extra consideration in public housing assignments, and top priority in the competition for enrollment in the most desirable primary schools was given to only children and to children whose parents had been sterilized before the age of forty. Voluntary sterilization was rewarded by seven days of paid sick leave and by priority in the allocation of such public goods as housing and education. The policies were accompanied by publicity campaigns urging parents to "Stop at Two" and arguing that large families threatened parents' present livelihood and future security"

http://www.photius.com/countries/singapore/society/singapore_society_population_control_p~11008.html

 

[greedy and cunning]

got such policy meh? Tell us about it

asking this question simply shows your stupidity and biased attitude .

yes there was such a policy. it punished those having more than 2 children. get this into your fuck numbskull.

 

[Fook Seng]

If you can read.


"The government responded with policies intended to further reduce the birth rate. Abortion and voluntary sterilization were legalized in 1970. Between 1969 and 1972, a set of policies known as "population disincentives" were instituted to raise the costs of bearing third, fourth, and subsequent children.

Yes. The campaign was so successful and so deeply etched in the brain cells that it has become a way of life and left something in the genes for the next generation which is very difficult to reverse.

 

[halsey02]

It is a case of Don't blame the Cook if the food doesn't taste good, blame the taste buds of the diners.

The case not blame the cook for the food nor the taste buds of the diners, it is a case of the COOK forcing the DINERS to consume whatever is cooked, with no choices, even to the point of getting diarrhea.:p

These blind followers, don't see this point!

 

[soIsee]

The case not blame the cook for the food nor the taste buds of the diners, it is a case of the COOK forcing the DINERS to consume whatever is cooked, with no choices, even to the point of getting diarrhea.:p

These blind followers, don't see this point!

Nobody force you to eat what the cook, cooked , right?

You can cook your own what!

I beginning to sound like Kinana! LOL

 

[greedy and cunning]

The case not blame the cook for the food nor the taste buds of the diners, it is a case of the COOK forcing the DINERS to consume whatever is cooked, with no choices, even to the point of getting diarrhea.:p

These blind followers, don't see this point!

there will always be a group of diehard staunch supporters [ those who depend on the system for the good life or those who are related ].
they will always come out with their biased replies whenever their master is being denounced.

kinana belongs to this group.

 

[sleaguepunter]

the stop at 2 policy so successful that deng xiaoping copy the idea after his visit to singapore. Of course deng must one up against the person he called a yellow banana so china have a stop at one policy.

 

[Kinana]

asking this question simply shows your stupidity and biased attitude .

yes there was such a policy. it punished those having more than 2 children. get this into your fuck numbskull.[/

Really? What kind of punishment did they get? Proof please.
Do the punishment still exist today

 

[sirus]

Stop at Two

In the late 1960s, Singapore was a developing nation and had not yet undergone the demographic transition; though birth rates fell from 1957 to 1970, in 1970, birth rates rose as women who were themselves the product of the postwar baby boom reached maturity. Fearing that Singapore's growing population might overburden the developing economy, Lee started a vigorous Stop at Two family planning campaign. Abortion and sterilisation were legalised in 1970, and women were urged to get sterilised after their second child. Women without a O-level degree, deemed low-income and lowly-educated, were offered by the government seven days' paid sick leave and $10,000 SGD in cash incentives to voluntarily undergo the procedure.[5][9][13]


A historical poster from the widespread "Stop at Two" campaign, which created many posters across different languages that were displayed in schools, hospitals and public workplaces.
The government also added a gradually increasing array of disincentives penalising parents for having more than two children between 1969 and 1972, raising the per-child costs of each additional child:[5][14]
Workers in the public sector would not receive maternity leave for their third child or any subsequent children
Hospitals were required to charge incrementally higher fees for each additional child.
Income tax deductions would only be given for the first two children
Large families were penalised in housing assignments.
Third or fourth children were given lower priorities in education;
Top priority in top-tier primary schools would be given only to children whose parents had been sterilised before the age of forty.

Kanina which part of the sentences in bold that you don't understand is a form of punishment?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_control_in_Singapore

 

[ionzu]

Up till now, no one of this forum can explain how the low fertility is LKY's fault.

which does not make the statement false.

 

[ionzu]

You choose, Mr Lee. Not the people. You choose what you want, and the people will choose how to respond accordingly.

You create a stressful and cramped country, you want to be No 1 in everything, people will have less children.

i disagree. the people should choose, not mr lee, what the future of singapore should be. it is unlikely he will be around in 5-10 years time.

the fact remains, at GE 2011, 60% have chosen to be no.1 in everything.

you need to convince them otherwise. that is your job.

 

[darylmackoy]

It's not LKY's fault. It's all the result of the calculative and materialistic Chinese mindset. Why bring children into this world to suffer? Who knows they may slowly burn to death in fifty years time though global warming. Carp diem!

 

[Fook Seng]

It's not LKY's fault. It's all the result of the calculative and materialistic Chinese mindset. Why bring children into this world to suffer? Who knows they may slowly burn to death in fifty years time though global warming. Carp diem!

You could be correct if the Indian and Malay TFRs have not drop. They too have dropped significantly. So it is back to Old Man's fault. The Stop at 2 was so successful that it had got into our genes. Surely the Old Man believes in genes?

 

[Kinana]

It is definitely not lky fault. The two is enough thing stopped decades ago. Opposition nuts justbwant to falsely accuse him of evrything. Its part of their oropoganda campaign la

 

[Cruxx]

If you can read.

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"The government responded with policies intended to further reduce the birth rate. Abortion and voluntary sterilization were legalized in 1970. Between 1969 and 1972, a set of policies known as "population disincentives" were instituted to raise the costs of bearing third, fourth, and subsequent children. Civil servants received no paid maternity leave for third and subsequent children; maternity hospitals charged progressively higher fees for each additional birth; and income tax deductions for all but the first two children were eliminated. Large families received no extra consideration in public housing assignments, and top priority in the competition for enrollment in the most desirable primary schools was given to only children and to children whose parents had been sterilized before the age of forty. Voluntary sterilization was rewarded by seven days of paid sick leave and by priority in the allocation of such public goods as housing and education. The policies were accompanied by publicity campaigns urging parents to "Stop at Two" and arguing that large families threatened parents' present livelihood and future security"

http://www.photius.com/countries/singapore/society/singapore_society_population_control_p~11008.html

They should introduce similar disincentives now to curb depopulation. Those who fail to perform their national duty by having two or more deserve to be punished severely!

 

[po2wq]

It is definitely not lky fault. The two is enough thing stopped decades ago. Opposition nuts justbwant to falsely accuse him of evrything. Its part of their oropoganda campaign la

u reap wat u sow ... u grow a durian tree ... it may take 20yrs b4 u get iz fruit ... n it gifs u fruits 4 many mor goot yrs ...

ah u is juz reaping wat he sowed ...

ah, but, a low-stock daft sinkie oni noe how 2 eat durians ...

 

[Fook Seng]

It is definitely not lky fault. The two is enough thing stopped decades ago. Opposition nuts justbwant to falsely accuse him of evrything. Its part of their oropoganda campaign la

If not the Old Man, then it must be Woody or Pinky then. Pick your choice.