Hi IskandarRocks,
You posted the above just 2 months ago and now you've already bought both Impiana and Imperia? Or East Ledang landed plus Imperia? I mean that's great to hear, you are one who acts and not just talk.
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Hi IskandarRocks,
You posted the above just 2 months ago and now you've already bought both Impiana and Imperia? Or East Ledang landed plus Imperia? I mean that's great to hear, you are one who acts and not just talk.
No need to do any exit along the Coastal Highway because it's at the end of the Highway. Meaning just go straight along Coastal Highway and you'll reach Anjung Mall(outside East Ledang). The sign on the Highway, if I'm not wrong, should be 'Nusajaya'.
Not forgetting the fact that he paid RM 1.68 mil for a unit with full Interior decor. So let's say we minus off RM 200k, he is actually willing to pay RM 1.48 mil for that unit, and it depends on the size of his unit too when comparing value to yours.
Thanks.. Anyone know the direction to the Orang Asli Seafood Kelong from Bukit Indah area?
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Yes, you have noticed well. I did act fast and picked up a EL landed and Imperia. I was quite convinced about the potential after 2-3 visits. Of course, the wealth of information on this forum was definitely the accelerator. Many thanks to all of you.
For some of you who have questions about Imperia, the price at pre-launch (from what I remember) started at RM 550 psf and goes all the way to RM 800 psf. This one has no bumi units from what I understand. The ones (3 bedrooms) facing the marina are significantly more, on a psf basis, than the ones that face the office block. On the day of the soft launch, they had received payments for around 60 units and were waiting for a wire transfer for another 20 units from Japanese buyers who were looking into the MM2H program. Not sure what the current number after adds and dropouts are. This is out of a total of 250 units. Given that I have not seen a single advertisement, I consider this to be pretty good. As someone mentioned, the full-launch will be in November and they were talking about bumping up the prices.
In terms of the developments, as you all know, Traders Hotel and Indoor Theme Park are coming up fast. I was also told that Legoland is putting a lot of pressure on UEM Land to get the CIQ center going fast so that they can start ferrying in visitors to the theme park once it opens next year. Not sure how soon this will happen but this should help boost the potential.
What is better? Ujana or Imperia? I was asking the same question earlier. Ujana is sold out. The new launch at East Ledang is Impiana. Pricing is different, as it was from RM 400 to RM 600 range. To me, Impiana sounded more like an upper-mid market segment. The targeted residents would be students at Educity. Imperia, on the other hand, is positioned at high end or luxury and the target residents would be professionals and executives. So it really depends on what you are looking at as well as your appetite for risk. Imperia is definitely riskier, as it is more expensive and there are fewer firmed up developments around Puteri Harbour (meaning under construction) compared with East Ledang. My decision towards Imperia was based on the potentailly fantastic views of the harbour, located near future CIQ, and also the quality of finishings as noticed in the show units. Hope this helps.
Bro Wuqi, Thank you very much for the info. It makes sense to me when you are helping people and doing good deeds, you can get surprising prizes. I am also helping a lot of younger ones to improve their studies and they are the future of the country.
aiyo very hard to describe and not easy to get to as well. You can go via gelang patah passing by LF or go via PTP highway, at the crucial junction where the 2 roads meet make a turn and follow the road towards the PTP direction. should see a sign 5 minutes in where you cross over a single lane bridge. there are 2. Chinese one on left and malay on right. I have tried the chinese-owned (but halal) one. Food is not life changing but the ambience over the waters is great. not cheap but not expensive either. if i do venture there in the future, I will take down the gps coordinates.
Thank you very much for sharing. Glad to hear that you think they are solid houses.
Thanks for telling me there is a white brochure. Hope I can grab one of the copies next time I visit there.
bro, the place is just behind the Taman Laguna. If you use the new highway from Danga Bay, you exit just before the second bridge. turn left, about 250 m, you will see Taman Laguna on your right. You can go there via Taman Laguna, or just continue driving (small road). about 1 km, you turn right, then just drive to the end of the road. There are few seafood restaurant there.
Getting property tax waiver or free golf membership and exemption of green fees etc. will even be better.
You're right. I have almost forgotten we have the ultra rich people to compete buying the properties.
ah this is another famous one. i forgot.
My own personal opinion is hsbc service was the best.
Ambank/SCB OK so-so but product no good and no follow-up.
PB promise alot but end up cannot make it.
Maybank the worst, enuf said...
I guess everyone got different experiences lah...
(Nusajaya, Iskandar Region) From the middle of nowhere to prime waterfront land
Straits Times 8 Oct 11;
Village houses, forests, dirt tracks and palm trees.
That was what greeted Mr Muhammad Aswan, a 35-year-old Singaporean, as recently as five years ago when he visited the area around his family land just outside Johor Baru.
The 0.4ha plot by the waters of the Strait of Johor faces Singapore.
It is in a village in Tebing Runtuh, about 25 minutes' drive from the Johor side of the Second Link highway in Tuas.
His grandfather bought it in the 1960s for RM1,000.
Mr Muhammad's father went on to build a jetty, bought two boats and built several small houses for use by the family, as it has many fishing enthusiasts. Part of the land was cleared for the planting of durian and jackfruit trees.
'There was nothing around here but forests, but things have really changed,' said Mr Muhammad, who works in the service sector in Singapore.
Today, about 2km from the kampung, a new highway cuts through the area. And hectic construction is going on to build theme parks, universities, houses and commercial buildings all around the village.
Change has come about because it falls within Nusajaya, one of five 'flagship zones' of development in Iskandar Malaysia.
About a kilometre away from the Muhammad family land and sharing the same waters of the Strait of Johor is the Puteri Harbour marina, where yachts and luxury boats are berthed.
The rise of these projects as part of the Iskandar Malaysia development has naturally led to a spike in land prices.
About seven years ago, Mr Muhammad said, a Malaysian bank estimated that the family plot, which has the status of agricultural land, could be sold for RM1.5 million.
Today, he reckons that the sea-facing property could fetch RM3.5 million (S$1.4 million).
He bases this on the recent sale of a nearby inland plot of 1.2ha for RM8 million.
The family is considering putting it up for sale as his 62-year-old father died recently and 'no one could really take care of the land anymore', he added.
Mr Muhammad hopes that with all the big Iskandar projects, a government agency or a private developer would see its potential as an idyllic waterfront retreat.
'It's a nice, quiet place to fish or read a book,' he said.
REME AHMAD
Iskandar Malaysia five years on
The Iskandar Malaysia development zone was launched five years ago, with the aim of boosting Johor's economy by attracting a wide spectrum of investments. As it approaches its fifth anniversary nextmonth, The Straits Times looks at how it's faring.
Reme Ahmad Straits Times 8 Oct 11;
NUSAJAYA: Some time next year, frisky American pre-schoolers squealing with delight at the madcap adventures of The Cat In The Hat will join budding doctors and seamen in the education hub that is rapidly taking shape in southern Johor.
EduCity in Nusajaya, a 15-minute drive from the Johor side of the Second Link, has become a popular destination for education providers looking to open new schools and campuses.
Raffles Education Corp, a private Singapore education group, told The Straits Times that when its American school opens next year, it will offer classes starting at kindergarten level all the way up to 12th grade, the equivalent of the GCE A levels.
Apart from the ample land in Nusajaya, one of its key attractions is its proximity to Singapore, where the large number of expatriate families is seen as a potentially lucrative source of revenue. 'There are a few hundred people in the queue for the American school in Singapore,' said Mr Gan Chin Huat, the group's special project director.
To make it more attractive, the group plans to run a shuttle bus service to and from Singapore, as well as offer hostel facilities for older children.
The Raffles group, which has 38 colleges in 14 countries, is one of several foreign education providers that are making Nusajaya the fastest-growing of the five Iskandar zones.
Other players include Britain's Newcastle University Medicine Malaysia and the Management Development Institute of Singapore (MDIS), with plans for a 12ha campus. Marlborough College, the British public school whose alumni include Prince William's wife Catherine Middleton, will open its campus next year.
The sprouting of the schools is in marked contrast to the initial scepticism towards the Iskandar Malaysia project. It was launched along with four other huge 'economic growth corridors', making some observers wonder if there were sufficient investment dollars to make them viable.
And then there was Malaysia's chequered record with mega-projects. Some, like the Entertainment Village and BioValley ventures in Selangor, were ditched after failing to pull in investors.
So, will Iskandar Malaysia meet the same fate?
Five years on, progress in the sprawling and multifaceted economic region has been uneven. The Iskandar region, which covers most of southern Johor, has an area of some 2,200 sq km. Other than Nusajaya, none of the other four 'flagship zones' appears to have created the same buzz or reeled in big foreign entities. It has yet to get a company that's big in business process outsourcing, or the backroom operations of a foreign bank, to come on board.
It is also too early to say whether the newer services being brought in, such as movie-making by Pinewood Studios, and tourist facilities like Legoland would create big demand for skilled labour, said Mr Francis Hutchinson, a visiting fellow at the Institute of Southeast Asian Studies.
'With regard to competition on service quality, Singapore comes out ahead, and with regard to competition on price (such as for call centres), the Philippines will win,' he said. But he added that Johor has always done well with property and manufacturing, and has shown potential in education, health and logistics.
Certainly, there is interest from small and medium-sized industries from Singapore in ventures involving engineering and manufacturing, said Mr Loh Lian Hiang, president of the Johor Baru Chinese Chamber of Commerce and Industry.
By February, cumulative investments in factories from Singapore companies stood at RM3.49 billion (S$1.4 billion), compared with RM517.9 million when Iskandar was launched in 2006, officials say. In the last five years, Iskandar has attracted cumulative investments of nearly RM76 billion. Of this, the government's share is RM6.28 billion - or just 8.3 per cent of the total, said the Iskandar Regional Development Authority.
And of the total investments pulled in, 40 per cent 'have already been spent on the ground for the various projects', said the government agency's chief executive Ismail Ibrahim.
'The development of Iskandar Malaysia is private sector-driven. As such, the government sees its role as facilitating and encouraging investment, rather than just injecting it in,' he said.
For those coming in, Iskandar offers the convenience of being near Singapore, minus its higher costs. Crossing into Nusajaya from parts of Singapore via the Second Link would take about the same time as 'going to Jurong or Changi', said Dr R. Theyvendran, MDIS' secretary-general.
The entry of UK-based Pinewood Studios has raised hopes of benefits to downstream industries. Global Capital & Development, a firm majority-owned by Abu Dhabi investment fund Mubadala, wants to set up a 'media village' next to it to be used by related media businesses.
To be sure, the studios will not be completed until 2013, and much more remains to be done to rev up investor interest and activity in the other zones.
But Mr Ismail, in an interview earlier this year, believes things will pick up once the first phase of major projects comes onstream. These include the medical university, the Johor Premium Outlets, scheduled to open next month, and the Legoland theme park which will open next year. 'People will really see the buzz in Iskandar Malaysia' then, he said.
The big projects
APART from educational facilities, other big projects coming up include Pinewood Studios, Legoland and an indoor theme park featuring Hello Kitty and other cartoon characters. The expected completion dates of the projects are given in brackets.
MOVIE MAKING
Pinewood studios (2013), the same group that produced Johnny English, Batman and Lara Croft, among others, will occupy 32ha of land.
THEME PARKS
Legoland Malaysia (2012)
An indoor theme park (2012), with attractions that include Hello Kitty Town, Barney and Bob the Builder, will be located by a retail mall.
SHOPPING
Johor Premium Outlets mall (to open next month) will have 80 shops offering discounted fare from top brands such as Burberry and Armani.
HOTELS
Traders Hotel, 292 rooms (2012)
Renaissance Hotel, 300 rooms (2014)
Palazzo Hotel and Serviced Suites, 293 rooms (2014)
HOSPITALS
Gleneagles Hospital, 300 beds, 150 suites (2014)
Columbia Asia Hospital, 82 beds (opened this year)
OFFICES AND COMMERCIAL SPACE
Medini Square, 1.05 million sq ft of office space and retail shops (2013)
HOMES
Many new projects have been launched by landowners. These include waterfront homes in Danga Bay (by a Malaysian group of the same name), and Senibong Cove by Australia's Walker Corporation.
Temasek Holdings and Malaysian sovereign fund Khazanah Nasional are planning a wellness township.
Background story
The flagship zones
MOST reports on Iskandar Malaysia tend to zoom in on Nusajaya - large plots of empty land now being transformed into Legoland, university campuses and residential areas. But Iskandar actually has four other 'flagship zones'.
Johor Baru City zone: The area located just past the Causeway includes the Johor city centre, with its supermarkets, hotels and malls that many Singaporeans often patronise. There is also the Danga Bay waterfront project facing Singapore.
Western Gate Development: The Port of Tanjung Pelepas is found here as well as the 2,100-megawatt Tanjung Bin Power Plant. It also includes Heritage Park with its 9,300 hectares of mangrove park suitable for eco-tourism.
Eastern Gate Development: Site of Johor's key industrial hub that includes Pasir Gudang and Tanjung Langsat industrial parks, the Johor Port and the Tanjung Langsat Port that handles bulk cargo and liquified petroleum gas.
Senai-Skudai zone: Senai airport along with an air cargo and logistics park are its key features. Universiti Teknologi Malaysia is also located here.
Iskandar Malaysia in total covers 2,217 sq km, about three times the size of Singapore. Launched on Nov 4, 2006, it is part of the federal government's strategy to turn Malaysia into a fully developed nation by 2020 by lifting per capita incomes to US$15,000 (S$19,500) from US$6,900 in 2009. Incentives include tax breaks and exemptions from the so-called 'bumiputera rules', allowing foreign investors to own 100 per cent of their businesses.
Straits Times 8 Oct 11;
Village houses, forests, dirt tracks and palm trees.
That was what greeted Mr Muhammad Aswan, a 35-year-old Singaporean, as recently as five years ago when he visited the area around his family land just outside Johor Baru.
The 0.4ha plot by the waters of the Strait of Johor faces Singapore.
It is in a village in Tebing Runtuh, about 25 minutes' drive from the Johor side of the Second Link highway in Tuas.
His grandfather bought it in the 1960s for RM1,000.
Mr Muhammad's father went on to build a jetty, bought two boats and built several small houses for use by the family, as it has many fishing enthusiasts. Part of the land was cleared for the planting of durian and jackfruit trees.
'There was nothing around here but forests, but things have really changed,' said Mr Muhammad, who works in the service sector in Singapore.
Today, about 2km from the kampung, a new highway cuts through the area. And hectic construction is going on to build theme parks, universities, houses and commercial buildings all around the village.
Change has come about because it falls within Nusajaya, one of five 'flagship zones' of development in Iskandar Malaysia.
About a kilometre away from the Muhammad family land and sharing the same waters of the Strait of Johor is the Puteri Harbour marina, where yachts and luxury boats are berthed.
The rise of these projects as part of the Iskandar Malaysia development has naturally led to a spike in land prices.
About seven years ago, Mr Muhammad said, a Malaysian bank estimated that the family plot, which has the status of agricultural land, could be sold for RM1.5 million.
Today, he reckons that the sea-facing property could fetch RM3.5 million (S$1.4 million).
He bases this on the recent sale of a nearby inland plot of 1.2ha for RM8 million.
The family is considering putting it up for sale as his 62-year-old father died recently and 'no one could really take care of the land anymore', he added.
Mr Muhammad hopes that with all the big Iskandar projects, a government agency or a private developer would see its potential as an idyllic waterfront retreat.
'It's a nice, quiet place to fish or read a book,' he said.
REME AHMAD
Iskandar Malaysia five years on
The Iskandar Malaysia development zone was launched five years ago, with the aim of boosting Johor's economy by attracting a wide spectrum of investments. As it approaches its fifth anniversary nextmonth, The Straits Times looks at how it's faring.
Reme Ahmad Straits Times 8 Oct 11;
NUSAJAYA: Some time next year, frisky American pre-schoolers squealing with delight at the madcap adventures of The Cat In The Hat will join budding doctors and seamen in the education hub that is rapidly taking shape in southern Johor.
EduCity in Nusajaya, a 15-minute drive from the Johor side of the Second Link, has become a popular destination for education providers looking to open new schools and campuses.
Raffles Education Corp, a private Singapore education group, told The Straits Times that when its American school opens next year, it will offer classes starting at kindergarten level all the way up to 12th grade, the equivalent of the GCE A levels.
Apart from the ample land in Nusajaya, one of its key attractions is its proximity to Singapore, where the large number of expatriate families is seen as a potentially lucrative source of revenue. 'There are a few hundred people in the queue for the American school in Singapore,' said Mr Gan Chin Huat, the group's special project director.
To make it more attractive, the group plans to run a shuttle bus service to and from Singapore, as well as offer hostel facilities for older children.
The Raffles group, which has 38 colleges in 14 countries, is one of several foreign education providers that are making Nusajaya the fastest-growing of the five Iskandar zones.
Other players include Britain's Newcastle University Medicine Malaysia and the Management Development Institute of Singapore (MDIS), with plans for a 12ha campus. Marlborough College, the British public school whose alumni include Prince William's wife Catherine Middleton, will open its campus next year.
The sprouting of the schools is in marked contrast to the initial scepticism towards the Iskandar Malaysia project. It was launched along with four other huge 'economic growth corridors', making some observers wonder if there were sufficient investment dollars to make them viable.
And then there was Malaysia's chequered record with mega-projects. Some, like the Entertainment Village and BioValley ventures in Selangor, were ditched after failing to pull in investors.
So, will Iskandar Malaysia meet the same fate?
Five years on, progress in the sprawling and multifaceted economic region has been uneven. The Iskandar region, which covers most of southern Johor, has an area of some 2,200 sq km. Other than Nusajaya, none of the other four 'flagship zones' appears to have created the same buzz or reeled in big foreign entities. It has yet to get a company that's big in business process outsourcing, or the backroom operations of a foreign bank, to come on board.
It is also too early to say whether the newer services being brought in, such as movie-making by Pinewood Studios, and tourist facilities like Legoland would create big demand for skilled labour, said Mr Francis Hutchinson, a visiting fellow at the Institute of Southeast Asian Studies.
'With regard to competition on service quality, Singapore comes out ahead, and with regard to competition on price (such as for call centres), the Philippines will win,' he said. But he added that Johor has always done well with property and manufacturing, and has shown potential in education, health and logistics.
Certainly, there is interest from small and medium-sized industries from Singapore in ventures involving engineering and manufacturing, said Mr Loh Lian Hiang, president of the Johor Baru Chinese Chamber of Commerce and Industry.
By February, cumulative investments in factories from Singapore companies stood at RM3.49 billion (S$1.4 billion), compared with RM517.9 million when Iskandar was launched in 2006, officials say. In the last five years, Iskandar has attracted cumulative investments of nearly RM76 billion. Of this, the government's share is RM6.28 billion - or just 8.3 per cent of the total, said the Iskandar Regional Development Authority.
And of the total investments pulled in, 40 per cent 'have already been spent on the ground for the various projects', said the government agency's chief executive Ismail Ibrahim.
'The development of Iskandar Malaysia is private sector-driven. As such, the government sees its role as facilitating and encouraging investment, rather than just injecting it in,' he said.
For those coming in, Iskandar offers the convenience of being near Singapore, minus its higher costs. Crossing into Nusajaya from parts of Singapore via the Second Link would take about the same time as 'going to Jurong or Changi', said Dr R. Theyvendran, MDIS' secretary-general.
The entry of UK-based Pinewood Studios has raised hopes of benefits to downstream industries. Global Capital & Development, a firm majority-owned by Abu Dhabi investment fund Mubadala, wants to set up a 'media village' next to it to be used by related media businesses.
To be sure, the studios will not be completed until 2013, and much more remains to be done to rev up investor interest and activity in the other zones.
But Mr Ismail, in an interview earlier this year, believes things will pick up once the first phase of major projects comes onstream. These include the medical university, the Johor Premium Outlets, scheduled to open next month, and the Legoland theme park which will open next year. 'People will really see the buzz in Iskandar Malaysia' then, he said.
The big projects
APART from educational facilities, other big projects coming up include Pinewood Studios, Legoland and an indoor theme park featuring Hello Kitty and other cartoon characters. The expected completion dates of the projects are given in brackets.
MOVIE MAKING
Pinewood studios (2013), the same group that produced Johnny English, Batman and Lara Croft, among others, will occupy 32ha of land.
THEME PARKS
Legoland Malaysia (2012)
An indoor theme park (2012), with attractions that include Hello Kitty Town, Barney and Bob the Builder, will be located by a retail mall.
SHOPPING
Johor Premium Outlets mall (to open next month) will have 80 shops offering discounted fare from top brands such as Burberry and Armani.
HOTELS
Traders Hotel, 292 rooms (2012)
Renaissance Hotel, 300 rooms (2014)
Palazzo Hotel and Serviced Suites, 293 rooms (2014)
HOSPITALS
Gleneagles Hospital, 300 beds, 150 suites (2014)
Columbia Asia Hospital, 82 beds (opened this year)
OFFICES AND COMMERCIAL SPACE
Medini Square, 1.05 million sq ft of office space and retail shops (2013)
HOMES
Many new projects have been launched by landowners. These include waterfront homes in Danga Bay (by a Malaysian group of the same name), and Senibong Cove by Australia's Walker Corporation.
Temasek Holdings and Malaysian sovereign fund Khazanah Nasional are planning a wellness township.
Background story
The flagship zones
MOST reports on Iskandar Malaysia tend to zoom in on Nusajaya - large plots of empty land now being transformed into Legoland, university campuses and residential areas. But Iskandar actually has four other 'flagship zones'.
Johor Baru City zone: The area located just past the Causeway includes the Johor city centre, with its supermarkets, hotels and malls that many Singaporeans often patronise. There is also the Danga Bay waterfront project facing Singapore.
Western Gate Development: The Port of Tanjung Pelepas is found here as well as the 2,100-megawatt Tanjung Bin Power Plant. It also includes Heritage Park with its 9,300 hectares of mangrove park suitable for eco-tourism.
Eastern Gate Development: Site of Johor's key industrial hub that includes Pasir Gudang and Tanjung Langsat industrial parks, the Johor Port and the Tanjung Langsat Port that handles bulk cargo and liquified petroleum gas.
Senai-Skudai zone: Senai airport along with an air cargo and logistics park are its key features. Universiti Teknologi Malaysia is also located here.
Iskandar Malaysia in total covers 2,217 sq km, about three times the size of Singapore. Launched on Nov 4, 2006, it is part of the federal government's strategy to turn Malaysia into a fully developed nation by 2020 by lifting per capita incomes to US$15,000 (S$19,500) from US$6,900 in 2009. Incentives include tax breaks and exemptions from the so-called 'bumiputera rules', allowing foreign investors to own 100 per cent of their businesses.
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Well, actually it would be great to know whether Bros here bought the mortgage insurance when they got their property loan.
aiyo very hard to describe and not easy to get to as well. You can go via gelang patah passing by LF or go via PTP highway, at the crucial junction where the 2 roads meet make a turn and follow the road towards the PTP direction. should see a sign 5 minutes in where you cross over a single lane bridge. there are 2. Chinese one on left and malay on right. I have tried the chinese-owned (but halal) one. Food is not life changing but the ambience over the waters is great. not cheap but not expensive either. if i do venture there in the future, I*€###########1111##
Thanks for the guide, will figure it out..
Jades Hills is further to the north, close to Klang Valley, right?
Hi Bro, have you got any property there?
Hi Bro, have you got any property there?
Mine are facing the Gateway and there are no obstruction at all. Therefore I am somewhat shocked ( or pleased? ) that someone has snapped up the "no-view" semis for RM 1.68M when I got mine at RM 1.2M. One of my friends got his along my row for RM 1.4M ( same timing ) but the house is much bigger than mine.
I offered RM 1.5M to buy his house and he is not selling even at RM 3M.
If you have been to developments around Malaysia with special concepts or themes, you know that RM 3M houses are very very common.
Check out Jades Hills by Gamuda one day if you are free. You should be amazed
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Look up MRTA, MLTA. Compare premiums against regular personal term insurance policy.
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