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Li Jiawei is leaving - and there’s nothing the STTA and SSC can do about it

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October 15, 2008
By reader Singapore Sports Fan
A member of the public, Edmund Lin, wrote to a local newspaper (see full letter below) about Li Jiawei’s probable departure for Beijing to get married and pursue her studies.
I couldn’t help being amused by Edmund Lin’s last paragraph in which he wondered whether the Singapore Table Tennis Association (STTA) and the Singapore Sports Council (SSC) will pull out all the stops to encourage Li to stay on and contribute to the local sports scene.
Let’s be realistic.
There is NOTHING that the STTA and the SSC can do to keep Li in Singapore simply because she does not have a sense of belonging to the country beyond table tennis.
In fact, I wonder whether Li has ever felt a sense of belonging to Singapore in the first place.
Don’t get me wrong. The above sentence is not - I repeat - not a criticism of her.
But it harks back to my previous postings of what the Singapore passport and the pink identity card means to all these foreign sports talents who have been scouted and brought in by some of our national sports associations (in particular, the Singapore Table Tennis Association and the Singapore Badminton Association).
As I wrote previously, the Singapore passport, in such instances, is just the symbol of the exchange of services that takes place between the foreign-born athlete and the National Sporting Association (NSA).
The NSA offers the foreign-born athlete citizenship and the chance to represent a country at the highest levels of competition, opportunities which will not come the athlete’s way if he or she continues to stay in his or her country.
This offer also includes many lovely carrots too, namely all the financial rewards that can be reaped from winning international competitions.
In return, the foreign-born athlete offers the NSA the best years of his/her life as a professional athlete, and immerses himself/herself in a life that revolves only around training, competition and bringing sporting success to the country.
After several years of servitude, the foreign-born athlete decides to retire or stop playing. When that happens, there’s nothing left to attach him or her to the country. Why? Because it’s just the end of a well-paying playing contract.
The foreign-born athlete decides it’s time to go home to his/her country of origin - and Singapore sports fans throw up their arms in despair because the numerous sporting honours that the athlete has won for Singapore suddenly seems hollow and meaningless.
Coming back to Li - how could one have ever expected her to feel a sense of belonging to Singapore when each and every single day of her 15 years here was spent either in training or travelling overseas to represent Singapore in competition?
I am given to understand that she never had any form of public or private education here, and spent many years living in STTA quarters. So the chances of her interacting with Singaporeans on a daily basis were minimal at best.
It’s also why even after 15 years, she is still only seen and heard speaking in Mandarin and can barely utter a sentence in English/Singlish.
Also, look at who she has (publicly) fallen in love with in the time she has been here: first it was Ronald Susilo. Now, it’s this Beijing businessman. One can only conclude from here that she is only able to identify with a fellow foreign-born athlete or with a fellow Chinese national.
So, really, could one really expect Li to continue living in Singapore after wrapping up her playing career?
Once again, the people at fault here would have to be the STTA officials and to a certain extent, the SSC.
And let me clarify:when I say STTA officials, I don’t mean Lee Bee Wah, who became the NSA’s new president in July, and her management team.
I mean the people of the previous regime - in this case, the ones responsible for scounting her and bringing her in 15 years ago and who have been looking after her development as a player.
Clearly, there were no efforts by them to help the likes of Li and her fellow foreign sports talents to get to know their new country better. It doesn’t look as though the SSC did much either to ensure that the STTA do a better job of integrating their new citizens with their new country.
So now, the STTA, the SSC and Singapore sports find themselves finally reaping what they have sown. And my, my, what a bitter harvest it is turning out to be, hey?
What’s worse, there’s nothing both organisations can do now by way of damage control. Because the damage was done a long ago.
And as a result, slowly but surely, the sweet euphoria of winning that Olympic silver medal in Beijing is starting to leave a bitter aftertaste in the mouth. The sense of national pride in that achievement is starting to deflate and the win is now increasingly looking like a hollow victory.
Can you imagine what you will be telling your children or even your grandchildren in future if they should ever ask about this historic sporting achievement?
Can you imagine yourself saying: “Yes, we won an Olympic medal after 48 long years. But most of the players who won it for us have all gone back to China. I don’t know what they are doing now.”
Better start practising - because it’s going to happen.
Because now that national women’s table tennis coach Liu Guodong has huffily rejected a new contact with the STTA (see report here), the word is out that his protege, Feng Tianwei, regarded by many Singaporeans as the true heroine of the Singapore team’s capture of the Olympic silver medal, may soon leave to join him wherever he goes (they have a very close relationship, apparently).
Well, like I said, we are now reaping what was callously sowed by the previous regime of the STTA.
Nice feeling, hey?
This letter was published in the Think section of The Sunday Times last weekend (12 Oct 2008).
Will Jiawei stay on after marriage? (The Sunday Times, 12 Oct 2008)
I refer to the report ‘Li and Li - Jiawei engaged’ (Oct 5).
It is good to hear about our table tennis star’s engagement and we wish her a happy marriage ahead.
While it is not in my interest to rain on her wedding parade, it seems inevitable that Singapore will lose Li Jiawei in time to come. The signals are there.
In your report, it was mentioned that the couple registered their marriage in Beijing, where Li’s parents and fiance live. There were also considerations over a place to live in after their marriage.
There are too many pull factors for Li to return to her place of birth in Beijing. In fact, she had contemplated going to Beijing to further her studies when she came back to Singapore after winning her Olympic medal.
While I can empathise with her reasons for eventually moving back to Beijing, as a Singaporean, I can’t help but feel disappointed.
Singapore gave Li many opportunities to don its national colours in international sporting events and even allowed her to be its flagbearer at the Olympics opening ceremony, yet the chances of her returning to China are very high.
Have we failed on our part? Could we have done more to make her stay?
That our foreign talent no longer feels beholden when presented a gift of good faith reflects a shortcoming on our part.
On the other hand, we should not be too judgmental. We need to spare a thought for Li as she is torn between trying to fulfil her obligations to Singapore while being a filial daughter to her parents and a future wife to her husband-to-be in Beijing.
It took much sacrifice on her part to be separated from her parents at an early age to train in Singapore. It is only natural that she will be homesick.
Still, we must examine and reflect on what more we could have done to make foreign athletes call Singapore their home.
We cannot help but wonder if the Singapore Table Tennis Association and Singapore Sports Council will pull out all the stops to encourage Li to stay on and contribute to our local sports ecosystem even after her marriage.
Edmund Lin
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People come and go but that does not mean that they hate Singapore. Singaporeans who stay overseas still love Singapore, come back to see loved ones and give money to their relatives in Singapore. They still care and contribute. While LJW may go back to China, she will help improve China-Singapore ties, which is equally a good and noble cause for Singapore. LJW may still come back to Singapore to contribute. Singapore knows she appreciates the chance given to her to contribute to international sports, not possible if she had stayed in China. She may yet come back and contribute to Singapore table tennis or otherwise. She may even come back and set up a business to help Singaporeans get employed.
 
moniker makapaa,

in singapore, we believe FT people can come, be singaporeans, earn some money and go back, it is ok.

if you are FT, if you have 5 million, you become PR straightaway.

dont worry, our govt is understanding, if ping-pong girls want to go back, after spending all their monies earned in singapore, they can come back anytime if they are broke to resume positions, our PAP govt welcomes them.

singaporeans like me also welcome them back, this is called singapore spirit.
 
For all we know, the male Li is a dud. After Jia Wei returns to her homeland, there will be no wedding. This is what I call a graceful exit back with her $$$.

Like that the olympic silver loses its' shine and we, Singaporeans look like fools !! Remember Edmar Goncalves, M Grabovic etc etc

All take $$$ and chabut back home laughing.
 
Wat to do?
Locals no talent and singapore loves foreign talent.

Just mass import the brazil football team...and we have a foothold in the world cup.

And we can proudly claim the victory.

:D :p :D
 
People come and go but that does not mean that they hate Singapore. Singaporeans who stay overseas still love Singapore, come back to see loved ones and give money to their relatives in Singapore. They still care and contribute. While LJW may go back to China, she will help improve China-Singapore ties, which is equally a good and noble cause for Singapore. LJW may still come back to Singapore to contribute. Singapore knows she appreciates the chance given to her to contribute to international sports, not possible if she had stayed in China. She may yet come back and contribute to Singapore table tennis or otherwise. She may even come back and set up a business to help Singaporeans get employed.

Yes... she may come back if the pap offers her another million sgd... who wouldn't ???... buying sport medals the pap is shameful when the poor is getting poorer while the pap is more concerned about their ego abroad...
 
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Wat to do?
Locals no talent and singapore loves foreign talent.

Just mass import the brazil football team...and we have a foothold in the world cup.

And we can proudly claim the victory.

:D :p :D

The whole Olympic Table Tennis silver saga is pure madness. 3 China born players getting a medal and one by one go back to their homeland after collecting the $$$.

How can Spore be proud ?? It is beyong comprehension !!:eek:
 
Better money must have been the stronger reason for her moving to S'pore to continue her pingpong career. Afterall, if she had remained in China, she'd be standing many places behind China's better players. So, move out, get a chance to compete, and still make better money.

But I believe, when they finally get to stand on the podium and the national anthems are played, she and Feng must have felt like traitors. She's a China player, not a Singapura player. When the cresent moon and 5 stars are raised, I doubt she felt any emotion, maybe a tinge of sadness. Happy for herself, for the bank account, but ultimate glory is missing. It's the notherland's flag that they would cry for. She probably would rather be glorified in her motherland than in Singapore. Like a prostitute would fuck for the money but would cry because she's fucking someone else and not the one she loves.
 
People come and go but that does not mean that they hate Singapore. Singaporeans who stay overseas still love Singapore, come back to see loved ones and give money to their relatives in Singapore. They still care and contribute. While LJW may go back to China, she will help improve China-Singapore ties, which is equally a good and noble cause for Singapore. LJW may still come back to Singapore to contribute. Singapore knows she appreciates the chance given to her to contribute to international sports, not possible if she had stayed in China. She may yet come back and contribute to Singapore table tennis or otherwise. She may even come back and set up a business to help Singaporeans get employed.


Seems that you would go to ridiculous lengths to try to make the PAP-S'pore gahmen look good.
 
Oh dear, I hope you are not suggesting that LJW who did us proud is viewed by Singaporeans as a prostitute. It speaks badly of the medal won. It would also speak badly of other countries that have done the same by accepting players of foreign origin to represent their countries.
 
It only shows how "hadap" we are for success, even though we lterally bought that success!!

Pure madness, if I should say.
 
well, she may be wearing sinkies flag in olympic, but she is 100% PRC spider inside. Good ridden that she is gone. she is the only one in olympic that let the national flag touch the ground during a very short period of time to showcase every country. was the bastard who nominated her to carry the flag fired yet?
 
It would be nice if the thought that goes into making decision were short and simple. These are luxuries. But decisions carry consequences and thus the necessity to think comprehensively prior to decision.
 
Re: Li Jiawei is leaving - and there’s nothing the STTA and SSC can do about it

It would be nice if the thought that goes into making decision were short and simple. These are luxuries. But decisions carry consequences and thus the necessity to think comprehensively prior to decision.

WTF you mumbling now?? Which thread are you replying to ??
 
Re: Li Jiawei is leaving - and there’s nothing the STTA and SSC can do about it

The whole FT sports program is a big stupid joke. The moment it was implemented sportsmanship is dead. The idiots think that this will bring glory to the nation but instead it is bringing shameful bad press around the world that we pay so much rewards to these temporary citizens. It is like the nation is one big Ah Beng, deprived but want to be loud and put on fake Rolex.
 
what olympic medal you guys talking abt?? who's this Li? she represented sgp team?
 
My personal opinion is this, if our local athletes can win medals, then support them to go all out and win. If not, why buy it? Medals are meant to won, not bought. Hiring foreign coaches is OK, to help improve local standards. But replacing locals with foreign atheletes for a quick medal fix, not much difference from a quick cocaine fix.
 
When she left her country China, how come no one in singapore said she is treacherous? :p

People come and go. She left her country for singapore to play table tennis, win medals, earn money for whatever reasons she has, doesn't mean she has to sign a 'long term contract' with singapore. If force her to stay, and she doesn't contribute to winning, its like keep a useless person on payroll. Let her pursue what she wants. Give her place to other talents.

So what if she has earned money from olympic scheme. At least she earned it via winning.
 
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