Laura & Cindy Ongs of Singapore - The Cruel Reality

[Charlie99]

To be more precise, steal eat does not include those who visit health centres and fuckshops (illegal as well). It involves 'feeling' type, meaning an affair. Thinking of the past makes me just suffer an erection, knna.

You are honest,
and did not steal eat with any SPF officers or those who worked at thr SPF, when you were with the SPF.

 

[The_Hypocrite]

its good that this time more of the blame has been placed on the woman instead of the man. So far with regards to the YSL affair,,it seems that YSL got the short end of the stick,,,now its this Ong bird that get the blame,,

I feel for affairs,,why do men get a greater share of the blame? willing seller, willing buyer,,she open her legs to him,,,she wasnt rape or threatened etc,,,so she kenna sack etc and her husband divorce her,,she deserve it tooo,,,and looking at her pictures,,she is a PAP slut,,and will whore herself to the PAP...so she gets what she deserves.//

now this will reflect badly on the PA,,,and the PAP..which is good news to the true singaporeans...

 

[Fook Seng]

I am not so optimistic. The majority, being indoctrinated for so long, would see Laura as the guilty party in this scandal. To them, MIW can never be wrong.

In the civil service, we have something similar. Scholars can never be wrong. If they make wrong decisions, it is their subordinates who misled them.

I agree with you. Most people will view this as a personal problem. You die your own business. That is why so many, 60.1%, continue to support the ruling party. When is there a case when they associate an individual problem as their own problem?

 

[Fook Seng]

Spot on, bro. Laura has been painted as a whore, sluts, etc, and Michael Palmer has been painted as an angel who is greatly missed by his constituents, people sad to see him go, etc.

I think the image repair job is not meant for Michael Palmer actually but more for the party in association.

 

[Fook Seng]

Most respectfully disagree, good sir. The media has suggested that she got to where she were through her relationship with Palmer. Now had she not benefited from their association through the PAP's influence over PA, it would be as you described. That is not so. There was gratification. There was corruption! And the needful was done. Palmer would have been quietly asked to go anyway had this not erupted into a media storm through the local rags.

Palmer probably wasn't even there when she got to her present position. If they think this line of argument can sway public opinion, they are mistaken.

 

[Prometheus888]

I agree with you. Most people will view this as a personal problem. You die your own business. That is why so many, 60.1%, continue to support the ruling party. When is there a case when they associate an individual problem as their own problem?

maybe this 60.1 is truly representative of the selfish kiasee nature of Sinkies (of human nature generally)....how they prefer to quietly watch on whilst innocents get raped and butchered because it aint their problem and they dont wanna risk themselves getting hurt in the process.

no wonder evil and corruption rules in this world

 

[Fook Seng]

scroobal, I could understand where you come from when I read the starting post. Like you now my feelings for them has always be disdainful since long ago. But unlike you I could not bring myself to feel pitiful for Laural simply because she was part of the system, she was one of them.

Have you ever wonder that for many working for the PA it is just a job like the many tens of thousands who worked for the Civil Servants? Fawning over your political masters is a personal choice not necessarily a requirement of the job. In fact many don't even have a chance to demonstrate support at close range to be recognised by their masters except the top guys.

 

[zhihau]

Have you ever wonder that for many working for the PA it is just a job like the many tens of thousands who worked for the Civil Servants?

civil servants should rightfully serve the Republic and her citizens. the political party that helms the government is merely the steward at any point in time!

 

[aurvandil]

Aside from being a PAP MP, Micheal Palmer was PA appointed GA. He was therefore in a position to advance her career. The question of whether this case warrants investigation like Ng Boon Gay has already been asked. Like YSL, it is currently a whispher. If the PAP try to ignore it and hope it will go away, the PAP will fall into the same hole as WP who were initially hoping the rumours about YSL will go away if they just ignore it.

Have you ever wonder that for many working for the PA it is just a job like the many tens of thousands who worked for the Civil Servants? Fawning over your political masters is a personal choice not necessarily a requirement of the job. In fact many don't even have a chance to demonstrate support at close range to be recognised by their masters except the top guys.

 

[kopiuncle]

civil servants should rightfully serve the Republic and her citizens. the political party that helms the government is merely the steward at any point in time!

this is what i believe is happening.

but the line between serving the republic and her citizens and taking into consideration the political party that helms the government is a very delicate one....

my own observation is this: those working in the pa are very afraid of the government....not necessarily the party.

 

[kopiuncle]

Have you ever wonder that for many working for the PA it is just a job like the many tens of thousands who worked for the Civil Servants? Fawning over your political masters is a personal choice not necessarily a requirement of the job. In fact many don't even have a chance to demonstrate support at close range to be recognised by their masters except the top guys.

Fook Seng, I totally agree with you. Many are "Chinese educated " and from the old Nantah, they are very loyal civil servants.They just do their work, follow the instructions and try to keep their jobs without carrying any more political burdens or get involved in any scandal or saga. But the new generation of PA's employees may be different.

 

[Fook Seng]

Fook Seng, I totally agree with you. Many are "Chinese educated " and from the old Nantah, they are very loyal civil servants.They just do their work, follow the instructions and try to keep their jobs without carrying any more political burdens or get involved in any scandal or saga. But the new generation of PA's employees may be different.

I believe when they first started out it was just a job, organising events, classes and managing facilities. But the things get more political when you get promoted and have to be involved in events which are political in nature.

 

[zhihau]

my own observation is this: those working in the pa are very afraid of the government....not necessarily the party.

hmm... scared of the government for what?

 

[kopiuncle]

I believe when they first started out it was just a job, organising events, classes and managing facilities. But the things get more political when you get promoted and have to be involved in events which are political in nature.

again i agree with you. sooner or later, the cards are in front of you...you have to choose. take them and be " one of us "...or stay on and rot ...be good, be obedient ,just do your job...but be prepared to pass over.....many chose to stay on and keep their rice bowls and then leave by the back-door with their mouths sealed....retire and disappear into oblivion. one or two might start their own grivances blog or participate in forums...but they are harmless.

those who chose to play the cards are taking a risk...the sword cuts both ways.

 

[kopiuncle]

hmm... scared of the government for what?

good question. rice bowls my dear brudder. money to bring the bread on the table. children to look after. expenses....many are trapped and no way to go....you go at your own peril. security of job ...just do it and keep your lips sealed.

 

[zhihau]

good question. rice bowls my dear brudder.

if one has the capabilities, one should not be afraid of one's rice bowl. unless you're saying that the civil servants think that they are sub-standard and can't survive in the public sector?

 

[Dreamer1]

good question. rice bowls my dear brudder. money to bring the bread on the table. children to look after. expenses....many are trapped and no way to go....you go at your own peril. security of job ...just do it and keep your lips sealed.

Angel Uncle Kopi,I adviSe you not to speak like that fucking Holy Goh aka King of his wife's peanuts.Take my adviCe,Angel,LOL

 

[Narong Wongwan]

Have you ever wonder that for many working for the PA it is just a job like the many tens of thousands who worked for the Civil Servants? Fawning over your political masters is a personal choice not necessarily a requirement of the job. In fact many don't even have a chance to demonstrate support at close range to be recognised by their masters except the top guys.

You have obviously not worked in the public sector....
If you have work or dealings with govt bodies (ministries even stat boards or unions....yes unions) you would not have made this statement.....even certain GLCs are not spared.

 

[kopiuncle]

if one has the capabilities, one should not be afraid of one's rice bowl. unless you're saying that the civil servants think that they are sub-standard and can't survive in the public sector?

brudder, many civil servants are just goody goody civil servants. just do their jobs. follow orders. be polite and be civil. don't mess things. take care of the children and family. goody goody no trouble makers or preach anarchy....i've many friends who are very good civil servants - they are very peaceful and happy people. no problems - always smiling .

 

[kopiuncle]

those who couldn't take the goodiness would have left and be their own boss or work in the private sector...or join some oppo party....and be a nuisance to everyone including himself....out of the system and out of sorts....completely lost.