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Serious Kiev vs Moscow! Showdown! (2022)
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We shall see about that. @tanwahtiu is a leading example.
You are such a fucking loser. We agreed to meet at the Yishun MRT station and you had even warned me don't be a coward and not to show up, but yet, you don't don't even show your shadow when the time and date were due. WHAT A FUCKING LOSER YOU ARE INDEED? NO BALLS KUNIANG. GO AND FUCK YOUR OWN MOTHER'S CHEE BYE LAH. A FUCKING LOSER KEYBOARD WARRIOR ONLY BUT TOTALLY OF NO GUTS NOR SUBSTANCE. SINCE YOU ARE A MUSLIM, I SHOULD HAVE SENT YOU A PIG HEAD INSTEAD.
Your fucking beloved Russia is clearly beginning to lose, and losing hard in this war:
Russia’s ‘rigid’ forces collapse to ‘audacious lightning’ Ukraine counteroffensive
Here's even more recent footage from Kharkiv:
RUSSIANS Running For Their Lives - Tanks Left Behind ( Video FOOTAGE )
Seeing all the above, you and Bloodymir Putin, should start preparing for your own funerals. When the Kremlin has to get weapons from North Korea, you should already know that something is very wrong with Russia.
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You're daft if you think Putin would lose before he uses his ICBMs.
So how's your plan to go fight for Ukraine going? Or have you changed your mind, champ?
Come back in 18 months or probably less to see your beloved Bloodymir Putin behind bars in his own country. Be very assured.
This unbias video sums up for me for what happened during the last 48 hours.
RUSSIA Troops RETREAT as Ukraine COUNTER-ATTACK RECLAIMS Towns & 1000 Sq Miles of Land in New Twist:
Carry on and continue to be misguided/misled by your fucking Beloved Bloodymir Putin and his crooks.
This video below is a solid evidence (BY A RUSSIAN HIMSELF) against what Bloodymir Putin had claimed that Russia has lost nothing in this war against Ukraine.
PUTIN SAYS RUSSIA HAS NOT LOST ANYTHING | I Have A Few Questions:
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And if in 18 months, Ukraine is still in the same shit, you will commit suicide? Pls answer yes.
If Ukraine is still the same after 18 months, then I think it's time for me to go and kill you with these:
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I think youtuber Konstantin is living dangerously. He is very brave, and he walks a very thin line each time he posts his videos.
Agree with you. He is indeed very brave to post them on Youtube and especially so when he's still in Russia. He may end up like that oil oligarch if he's not careful.
Exactly, fact is he is posting from within russia. Hope he remains safe.
Slava ukraini!
Putin is finished. The Ukrainians have him on the ropes with a stunning victory in their sights
Mike Martin
Sun, 11 September 2022 at 4:45 pm·4-min read
Ukrainian troops pose in the recently liberated settlement of Vasylenkove, in the Kharkiv region - TERRITORIAL DEFENCE OF THE UKRAINIAN ARMED FORCES
By the time you read this article it will most probably be out of date, such is the speed of the advance of the Ukrainian armed forces.
Most likely the last 72 hours of warfare in Ukraine are going to be studied by generations of future military officers and historians. In summary, the Ukrainian Armed Forces have retaken over 2,500 sq km of Russian-occupied Ukraine.
And they have done this by punching a hole through thinly-guarded Russian front lines east of Kharkiv, and severing the Russian lines of logistics, forcing the withdrawal of large contingents of Russian soldiers from multiple locations, but most importantly Izyum and Kupyansk.
Without these two cities, Russia cannot effectively supply its forces in the north-east or the east of the country, and so further collapses, withdrawals and surrenders of Russian forces are to be expected.
It is likely that the Ukrainians will keep control of what they have gained, equivalent to all of the territory that Russia has gained since April. The Russians are finding it hard to defend, let alone counterattack. They simply don't have the troops, nor the logistics, and their morale - that intangible essential in warfare - has hit a new rock bottom.
In fact, as this article was being written, reports are emerging that the Ukrainians have retaken Donetsk Airport, and are heading for the Black Sea coast—either Mariupol, or Melitopol. It is a quite stunning success.
Ukrainian soldiers in the centre of Kupyansk
So what does this mean?
For the war, it means that we are seeing the disintegration of Russian forces in Ukraine. They may be able to stabilise their lines temporarily, but we have crossed a point of no return. Russia's forces were previously poorly equipped, supplied and of low morale. To that list you can now add terrified of encirclement.
Some are worried that this will force Putin to use nuclear weapons, but as long as the Ukrainians stay within their borders this is unlikely—for Putin knows it will be the end of him, and potentially of Russia too.
Only a matter of time
Geographically, the Ukrainians are carving up the Russian forces into small pockets which they will deal with individually. The hardest of those pockets to defeat will be Russian forces in Crimea, but once Ukraine has isolated them by destroying the Kerch bridge that runs between Crimea and Russia, it is only a matter of time.
The Russians are not going to be able to pull this together - we are witnessing an army in rapid decline, it is just a question of the speed at which it declines.
Of course, for Ukraine, this means that they are getting closer to their overall strategic goal: the removal of all Russian forces from the sovereignty territory of Ukraine.
This has been achieved with exceptional skill and bravery on their part, and huge losses of civilians and soldiers, including an estimated 1.5million Ukrainians who have been transferred to Russia. (Luckily they have captured and are capturing thousands of Russian soldiers and so these two groups may well be swapped.)
It has also been done with billions of dollars of weaponry, terabytes of intelligence data, and discrete operational advice from western countries, and especially the US and the UK.
A car drives past a destroyed armored vehicle in Balakliya, Kharkiv region - JUAN BARRETO/AFP via Getty Images
Despite all of the media focus on whether the Ukrainians are receiving enough, and the right type, of equipment, it is clear that the Ukrainians have been equipped and enabled sufficiently to conduct combined arms manoeuvre over hundreds of kilometres—a particularly logistics intensive type of warfare. The success will remind Western leaders that the weapons, intelligence and advice must continue to flow to allow them to finish the job.
But what does this mean for Russia?
Well, first and foremost it means that Putin could be finished. This has been his war. And it has not only failed, but achieved the opposite of what he said it would: Russia is now ostracised, sanctioned, has unified its enemies, and is about to have its army defeated in the field. This may seem like a good thing but there is only one thing worse than a strong Russia, and that is a weak one.
A weak Russia, with its leader defenestrated, leaves many unknown questions. Could there be a coup? Who takes over after Putin? Does Russia stay whole? What happens to the nuclear weapons — and Russia has over 5,000 of them while all of this is happening?
So while everyone’s eyes are focused on what is happening in Ukraine, I hope someone is thinking about what may be shortly to happen to Russia.
Dr Mike Martin is a War Studies Visiting Fellow at King's College London and author of Why We Fight.
https://sg.style.yahoo.com/putin-finished-ukrainians-him-ropes-084514600.html
Some of my whatsapp groups on Ukraine-Russia war has gone silent since this weekend.
For months, they've been blasting mainstream media for "lying" about the Ukraine war, that the Russians are winning and the Ukrainians have supposedly lost countless tanks, men and military gear. No more updates since the collapse of Russian front a few days ago.
In truth, I am very surprised that there are (were) numerous sinkie folks supporting the russkies. Granted the ukrainians are no saints by any means, but the russkies are clearly the big bad wolf here. Or should I say bear.
Russia's failure to invade Ukraine has apparently greatly shaken Winnie Xi's confidence to invade Taiwan.
I don't support Putin's invasion but honestly Ukraine deserved to get fucked for helping accelerated tiong-cock's military power. It's karma for them.In truth, I am very surprised that there are (were) numerous sinkie folks supporting the russkies. Granted the ukrainians are no saints by any means, but the russkies are clearly the big bad wolf here. Or should I say bear.
Hopefully they will see the true colours of the Tiongs and learn the lesson from this war to shun any collaboration with them henceforth.
In truth, I am very surprised that there are (were) numerous sinkie folks supporting the russkies. Granted the ukrainians are no saints by any means, but the russkies are clearly the big bad wolf here. Or should I say bear.
Many of those pro-Russia sinkie folks were oppies who used the same whatsapp groups to attack the PAP for being undemocratic and too 'strongman' on oppies.
The irony is that those pro-Russia, anti-PAP sinkies love Putin for behaving like the PAP in Russia - being undemocratic and a strongman for Russia.
russian forces stuck in kherson will surrender in coming days. they don’t want to fight anymore.
People fear Russia more for its large land mass and nukes than for its conventional fighting abilities. Most of its army are still using soviet era weapons, which had been proven to be sitting ducks for cheap, modern drones.
Ukrainian army outnumbered the Russians 8 to 1 in this offensive. Sounds like it's the reverse WW2, and the Russians are now playing the Nazi side, defending against the horde.
MOSCOW: A Russian-installed official in Ukraine's Kharkiv region said on Monday (Sep 12) that Ukrainian forces had outnumbered Russian and pro-Russian forces by eight times during a lightning counteroffensive over the weekend.
Ukrainian forces overran the Russian supply hubs of Izium and Kupiansk over the weekend, Russia's worst military defeat since its forces were forced back from Kyiv shortly after President Vladimir Putin ordered troops into Ukraine.
Speaking to the state-owned Rossiya-24 television channel, Vitaly Ganchev said that Ukrainian forces had captured previously Russian-held settlements in the region's north, breaking through to the border with Russia, and that "about 5000" civilians had been evacuated to Russia.
Ganchev said "the situation is becoming more difficult by the hour", adding that the border with Russia's Belgorod region was now closed.
Reuters could not immediately verify battlefield reports.
Russia's Defence Ministry on Sunday published a map, showing that Russian forces had almost entirely abandoned the Kharkiv region.
In southern Ukraine's Russian-controlled Kherson region, where a slower-moving offensive has seen Kyiv's forces make modest gains in recent weeks, a Russian-installed official said there was no reason for concern.
"In Kherson there is no panic," said Kirill Stremousov in a video posted on Telegram, acknowledging that news from Kharkiv region had disturbed some pro-Russian locals.
The US-based Institute for the Study of War on Monday reported increased Ukrainian progress in Kherson region, with Kyiv's forces drawing closer to Kherson city, after weeks of artillery bombardment has strained Russia's supply lines across the Dnipro river.
"It's calm. Possibly it's the calm before the storm, but we are ready to stand until the end and will not surrender our Russian city of Kherson to anyone", said Stremousov.
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/wor...rainian-soldiers-outnumbered-russians-2932921
MOSCOW: A Russian-installed official in Ukraine's Kharkiv region said on Monday (Sep 12) that Ukrainian forces had outnumbered Russian and pro-Russian forces by eight times during a lightning counteroffensive over the weekend.
Ukrainian forces overran the Russian supply hubs of Izium and Kupiansk over the weekend, Russia's worst military defeat since its forces were forced back from Kyiv shortly after President Vladimir Putin ordered troops into Ukraine.
Speaking to the state-owned Rossiya-24 television channel, Vitaly Ganchev said that Ukrainian forces had captured previously Russian-held settlements in the region's north, breaking through to the border with Russia, and that "about 5000" civilians had been evacuated to Russia.
Ganchev said "the situation is becoming more difficult by the hour", adding that the border with Russia's Belgorod region was now closed.
Reuters could not immediately verify battlefield reports.
Russia's Defence Ministry on Sunday published a map, showing that Russian forces had almost entirely abandoned the Kharkiv region.
In southern Ukraine's Russian-controlled Kherson region, where a slower-moving offensive has seen Kyiv's forces make modest gains in recent weeks, a Russian-installed official said there was no reason for concern.
"In Kherson there is no panic," said Kirill Stremousov in a video posted on Telegram, acknowledging that news from Kharkiv region had disturbed some pro-Russian locals.
The US-based Institute for the Study of War on Monday reported increased Ukrainian progress in Kherson region, with Kyiv's forces drawing closer to Kherson city, after weeks of artillery bombardment has strained Russia's supply lines across the Dnipro river.
"It's calm. Possibly it's the calm before the storm, but we are ready to stand until the end and will not surrender our Russian city of Kherson to anyone", said Stremousov.
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/wor...rainian-soldiers-outnumbered-russians-2932921
russkie forces trying to negotiate surrender of kherson.
over 69% of the russian 810th marine brigade were wiped out in sevastopol in crimea on the kherson front. the supposedly feigned counter offensive in the south to draw russian troops from the north has apparently started, and it’s not a deceptionary move anymore.
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