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Japan finally apologies

It is like German Chancellor paying respects to Hitler's grave in her official capacity. Cannot lah. Unfortunately for them, the Japanese are living right next door to an increasingly powerful neighbor like China and Korea.

It's future lies more with these neighbors. It mfg based has moved to China, its future customers are there. And it is not just China. The whole of Asia is not happy with Jap WW2 activities.

Germans said sorry, made amends and are now fully integrated into EU.
 
Actually if you want to know why Japan apologizes read below.

1)China is Japan's LARGEST export market (not USA but Japan)
2) China is buying Japanese bonds. Japan has big debt problems and are desperately trying to get their younger gen to buy their bonds.

China Buys $5.3 Billion of Japanese Bonds in June, Set for Annual Record
By Masaki Kondo and Keiko Ujikane - Aug 8, 2010 6:47 PM PT
Finance Minister Yoshihiko Noda last month said China’s purchases are welcome given policy makers’ efforts to diversify the investor base of bonds. Photographer: Tomohiro Ohsumi/Bloomberg


Play VideoAug. 9 (Bloomberg) -- Ben Collett, head of equities at Louis Capital Markets (Hong Kong) Ltd., talks with Bloomberg's Susan Li about his investment for Japanese stocks. Japanese stocks fell, sending the Topix index to its first drop in three days, after U.S. companies hired fewer workers than forecast in July, undermining confidence in a global economic recovery. Collett, speaking in Hong Kong, also discusses the outlook for the yen and Japanese government bonds. (Source: Bloomberg)
China bought more Japanese bonds than it sold for a sixth straight month in June, heading for the biggest annual increase on record, helping fuel a rally in the securities that’s seen yields reach a seven-low.

China purchased a net 456.4 billion yen ($5.3 billion) of Japanese debt in June, following net buying of 735.2 billion yen in May that was the most in records dating from 2005, according to a report released today by the Ministry of Finance in Tokyo.

The dollar’s slide against all 16 major currencies monitored by Bloomberg since the start of June has reduced the attractiveness of U.S. assets for some investors. China should pare its holdings of dollars to counter the risk of a “sharp depreciation,” former adviser to the central bank Yu Yongding wrote in the China Securities Journal last month.

“China’s purchase is probably a part of its efforts to hedge against a risk of the dollar’s or euro’s depreciation in the future,” said Susumu Kato, chief economist in Tokyo at Credit Agricole CIB and CLSA. “In the long run, yen-denominated bonds will be held more broadly among Asian countries, which is positive for Japan’s bond market.”

China’s net purchases of Japanese debt for the first half of the year amounted to 1.73 trillion yen, today’s report showed. The total is nearly seven times as much as the figure for all of 2005, which was the biggest year for Chinese buying of Japanese bonds between 2005 and 2009.

Yields Tumble

Yields on Japan’s benchmark 10-year bonds dropped to a seven-year low of 0.995 percent on Aug. 4. The securities yielded 1.02 percent as of 10:43 a.m. in Tokyo.

The 2005 record came at a time when China ended a decade- old peg of its currency to the dollar. A similar shift came in June this year, when Premier Wen Jiabao’s government abandoned a two-year policy of keeping the yuan around 6.83 per dollar.

Pegging the yuan to the dollar meant China had to purchase dollars to prevent it from appreciating. As a result, China accumulated the world’s largest foreign-exchange reserves, totaling $2.45 trillion in June.

It held $867.7 billion of Treasuries at the end of May, down from $900.2 billion in April. Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, Hong Kong, India, and Singapore are also among the world’s 10 biggest holders of reserves that reduced their ownership of U.S. government debt that month.

Domestic Reliance

Luring more foreign investors to Japanese government bonds is critical for the government as a shrinking domestic population threatens to erode the pool of savings that has sustained demand for the debt. Finance Minister Yoshihiko Noda last month said China’s purchases are welcome given policy makers’ efforts to diversify the investor base of bonds.

About 95 percent of Japan’s debt is held domestically, which sovereign-debt agencies have said supports the country’s creditworthiness even as borrowings approach 200 percent of gross domestic product.

In a sign that base is waning, Japan’s public pension fund, a holder of 12 percent of outstanding debt, sold more government bonds than it bought for the first time in nine years during the 12 months through March 2010.

Japan has been bolstering its ties with China, which became its largest customer for exports in 2009. Japanese shipments to China tripled from 2000 to 2009, and Chinese demand has helped sustain Japan’s recovery from its deepest postwar recession.

Japan’s government revised how it calculates bond-purchase data in 2005. Today’s figures don’t include breakdowns of government bonds, corporate debt and other securities.
 
Japs never sincerely apologize. The history channel is now running their war atrocities, including germs warfare on prisoners and medical operations by trainee doctors on live prisoners without anesthesia. The subjects are called monkeys as euphemism. Japs have always been racist. Happy to be conferred as honorary whites by apartheid white rulers. Japs now claim eating whales is their birthright for having suffered war defeats and resultant food shortage. The days may come again when Korea and China beats them in quality and the Japs girls have to sell their bodies again to foreigners for their collective amnesia. At least the country is not that homogeneous or a dictatorship like Singapore. Dissent is still allowed.
 
Japs never sincerely apologize. The history channel is now running their war atrocities, including germs warfare on prisoners and medical operations by trainee doctors on live prisoners without anesthesia. The subjects are called monkeys as euphemism. Japs have always been racist. Happy to be conferred as honorary whites by apartheid white rulers. Japs now claim eating whales is their birthright for having suffered war defeats and resultant food shortage. The days may come again when Korea and China beats them in quality and the Japs girls have to sell their bodies again to foreigners for their collective amnesia. At least the country is not that homogeneous or a dictatorship like Singapore. Dissent is still allowed.

japan never sincerely apologize ? what you expect them to do ? throw another nuke on them ? remember , those war criminal already dead and politician from china and korean are using this "tactics " to put pressure on japanese goverment to make japan look bad . both china and korea hated japan because japan economy is stronger then them , just like malaysia hated singapore .

talk about racist ...japan is not no. 1 in the chartboard ...what about aussie , white american look down on the black people , singaporean looking down on thai , indonesia , malaysia , philiphine , bangladesh , PRC...ect that are working in singapore ?

dont eat whale ? can american dont eat beef ? korean stop eating dog ? eating whale is part of their japanese culture . on singaporean wedding day you can try telling them not to serve shark fins ;)

Korea and China will never take over japan ....even if it does , you will not get to see it in your present life .



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japan never sincerely apologize ? what you expect them to do ? throw another nuke on them ? remember , those war criminal already dead and politician from china and korean are using this "tactics " to put pressure on japanese goverment to make japan look bad . both china and korea hated japan because japan economy is stronger then them , just like malaysia hated singapore .

yes, apologize for what. Naoto Kan should have your style. tell Chinese and Koreans - what you want? all those war criminals already dead, it was a honest mistake, let move on. 60+ years already, why keep on harping about it. As for Chinese, it was officially recorded your great leader Mao Zedong gave thumbs up for that war when he met our leaders in 1960s. Chinese really have no reason to complain, Japan saved them from Chiang Kai Shek nationalist govt thus Chinese were able to enjoy Zedong golden period of great leap forward and cultural revolution.
 
It is a most limited, primitive and one sided opinion that only one side can commemorate their dead, while the others should spit on them, because one side was the "ultimate good", and the other the "ultimate evil". Interests have collided, war has resulted, and attrocities were committed in equal amount on all sides. Not granting the right for one side to remember their dead simply takes the right from you to do the same with yours.


I will try to make it simple, so you can understand too.Creating an embargo and blackmailing a country is not=simply not trading with it. If someone spits you 3 times into the face throwing junk at your head from the balcony when you pass,and hits your car into junk with a baseball bat,he should not be surprised if you go up and kick his ass. However, nobody said that Japanese were "innocently pure and THE good guys", however this can not be said in any way from the Allies either.

As for the fabled Allies, they ARE responsible for unleashing the communist barbarism into half of Europe, and that is a fact too. Yes, commemorate those honourable Allied pilots, who threw down teddy bears and pens that kids could find, nicely prepaired with bombs, so their small hands can blow off. Alone in Baden -Württenberg, more than 12000 infants became crippled because toys detonated in their hands, that the "good" allied pilots gifted them with.
 
When it will be considered as improper for Russians to visit Soviet Army memorial places, listing Red army members who killed, ravaged and raped their way through Europe, and when British and Americans will cease to commemorate their pilots who murdered civilians by the bundreds of thousands, THEN you can say that visiting the Yasukuni Shrine is improper. Until then, shut up, and cover in shame.
 
I can prove hundreds of violations by the US in the international rules of war.
All Allied countries broke Geneva Convention as well, why were they exempt from war crimes? (only because they won and to cover their own crimes against humanity

So again I ask, The deliberate targeting of women, children and elderly with incendiary phosphor and atomic weapons in hiroshima , nagasaki .
A war crime? Yesor No .
Look up the amount of Japanese innocents (women, children and elderly) DELIBERATELY TARGETED and incinerated alive by incendiary phosphor, not to mention de-materialising after atomic attacks. Should I include the raping etc even after the war finished in the tens of thousands.

ALL CRIMES AGAINST HUMANITY only difference the winners were exempted from war crimes. Are their shrines any different?? HYPOCRITE .By the way Yasukuni is NOT a shrine that honours war criminals and was there way before WW2.

The EXECUTION of thousands of Japanese men in a two day period after the Battle of the Bismark Sea. The film still exists ( youtube) of men in lifeboats, rafts, lifejackets or just treading water being straffed in the sea. Even rescue craft were to be fired at, all on the orders of an Admiral Kenny C in C US Pacific theatre. A fact that would not be lost by the Imperial Japanese Navy in future battles. I could go on for hours about Allied war crimes .


Trust me, yahoo 'Hotaru Museum'

Once there you will see six names to click on............take only a minute of your time!

Don't you think that these boys should be honoured (as well as others) at Yasukuni?

I would love to hear what you think.........Don't be blinded by Hollywoods version of history................

you would have to destroy every shrine or monument worldwide honouring their dead.

Yasukuni is no differen't than say Arlington cemetary etc. No country is blameless in war, the Allies commited some of the worst atrocities which is why it was decided that no Allied countries would be prosecuted for war crimes at Nuremberg (believe me there's plenty) .

No one ask those people in the world to love war criminals housed in Yasukuni, because they died for Japan, not for those people.

Japanese thank, and pay respect for them, that's enough.
 
Though I agree that we shouldn't bother the Japanese with Yasukuni, war crimes are different from acts of war. Britain never complained about any war crime against Germany, or vice versa. In fact, Germany gave British soldiers an Union Jack funeral when they killed them. Germany bombed Britain and Britain bombed Germany. That was war, not war crimes. German crimes against humanity was against German and other European Jews under its juridiction or occupation, massacring them when they were helpless without any power to even think about even being hostile.

Ditto Japanese, for what they did in China, Korea and much of SEA, including Singapore of course. The Singapore Shook Ching was of course part celebration of victory and part revenge against ethnic Chinese for their support and donation to China mainland resistance to Japanese resistance.

Wars can be fought, won or lost honorably, e.g. Napoleon. Who the hell in Europe or the world, even the victors, accuse him of being a war criminal? Stalin and Mao weren't war criminals too. Soldiers under them fought enemies honorably, killed enemies honorably and got killed by enemies honorably. Stalin and Mao murdered their own people after victory to consolidate their own grasp on power. That's a domestic crime for their own people to come to terms with, not a war crime.
 
It is a most limited, primitive and one sided opinion that only one side can commemorate their dead, while the others should spit on them, because one side was the "ultimate good", and the other the "ultimate evil". Interests have collided, war has resulted, and atrocities were committed in equal amount on all sides. Not granting the right for one side to remember their dead simply takes the right from you to do the same with yours.

I will try to make it simple, so you can understand too.Creating an embargo and blackmailing a country is not=simply not trading with it. If someone spits you 3 times into the face throwing junk at your head from the balcony when you pass,and hits your car into junk with a baseball bat,he should not be surprised if you go up and kick his ass. However, nobody said that Japanese were "innocently pure and THE good guys", however this can not be said in any way from the Allies either.

I don't have opinions about Yasukuni Shrine. LDP leader Sadakazu Tanigaki can reside in the shrine 24/7/365 if that make him a happier Jap.

what did China do back then to "force" Japan into invading them so that it fit in with your "interests have collided, war has resulted" theory. Why did Americans started an embargo against Japan? Japan wasn't the reluctant villain no matter how you look at it.

If I must defend Japan then she was duped into invading China by Moscow/Stalin. It's more acceptable.
 
By the way, does anyone have law to accuse American soldiers who has tortured iraq prizoners at Guantanamo ?

Japan accepted International Military Tribunal Far East, and war criminals sentenced by it when they signed San Francisco Peace Treaty in 1952.

That means war criminal issue was an agreement only between allied powers and Japan that signed the treaty. But those allied powers signed S.F.Treaty do not claim about Yasukuni.

War criminal is none of business for China and Korea, because they didn't signed S.F.Treaty. But only China and Korea in the world claim for Yasukuni.
It's so funny.
I am not attacking Koreans, becaue they are my friends.
I am just attacking liars, that's it.

Only Korean and PRC behave for their emotion. Anti-Japanese campaign is the best entertainment for Korean people and china people, becaue they don't have to worry about politic/economic revenge. In the other had, they can say nothing to China or North Korea, becuase they afraid politic/enconomic revenge .No country looks it as wrong, except China and Korea.

It is worse problem that some people think that Mao Zhe Tong was heroes.China always blame Japan to distract and fool its own people. Within China itself, human rights abuses continue
 
I don't have opinions about Yasukuni Shrine. LDP leader Sadakazu Tanigaki can reside in the shrine 24/7/365 if that make him a happier Jap.

what did China do back then to "force" Japan into invading them so that it fit in with your "interests have collided, war has resulted" theory. Why did Americans started an embargo against Japan? Japan wasn't the reluctant villain no matter how you look at it.

If I must defend Japan then she was duped into invading China by Moscow/Stalin. It's more acceptable.

It was a confluence of coincidences of history. ROC overthrew Qing Dynasty that originated from Manchuria. The Manchurians hoped to somehow save a national identity and the Japanese as the rising power of the day saw that it was in their interests to back the founding of a Manchukuo separate from China. The US opposed Japan and backed ROC China. USSR backed CCP and complicated things. It all started from there.
 
Though I agree that we shouldn't bother the Japanese with Yasukuni, war crimes are different from acts of war. Britain never complained about any war crime against Germany, or vice versa. In fact, Germany gave British soldiers an Union Jack funeral when they killed them. Germany bombed Britain and Britain bombed Germany. That was war, not war crimes. German crimes against humanity was against German and other European Jews under its juridiction or occupation, massacring them when they were helpless without any power to even think about even being hostile.

Ditto Japanese, for what they did in China, Korea and much of SEA, including Singapore of course. The Singapore Shook Ching was of course part celebration of victory and part revenge against ethnic Chinese for their support and donation to China mainland resistance to Japanese resistance.

Wars can be fought, won or lost honorably, e.g. Napoleon. Who the hell in Europe or the world, even the victors, accuse him of being a war criminal? Stalin and Mao weren't war criminals too. Soldiers under them fought enemies honorably, killed enemies honorably and got killed by enemies honorably. Stalin and Mao murdered their own people after victory to consolidate their own grasp on power. That's a domestic crime for their own people to come to terms with, not a war crime.


whether it is domestic or war crime ..a killing is a killing
 
Stalin and Mao weren't war criminals too. Soldiers under them fought enemies honorably, killed enemies honorably and got killed by enemies honorably. Stalin and Mao murdered their own people after victory to consolidate their own grasp on power. That's a domestic crime for their own people to come to terms with, not a war crime.

I don't know much about western front war but think Stalin was clearly guilty of numerous war crimes. His Red Army shot dead 20K Polish officers at Katyn and he proposed to Roosevelt/Churchill at Yalta that 50K German officers be shot dead after the war.
 
I don't know much about western front war but think Stalin was clearly guilty of numerous war crimes. His Red Army shot dead 20K Polish officers at Katyn and he proposed to Roosevelt/Churchill at Yalta that 50K German officers be shot dead after the war.

Roosevelt and Churchill told him, understandable he very angry, but cool down please. :D
 
Actually, the Japanese government has already apologize. What the PRC wants is a specific apology to THEM.
they want apologies from every new prime minister that pops up on that island. A golden card which they will use until the they become their vassel state.
 
Actually, the Japanese government has already apologize. What the PRC wants is a specific apology to THEM.
they want apologies from every new prime minister that pops up on that island. A golden card which they will use until the they become their vassel state.

You're right and intuitive. Who the hell in PRC cares what does it matter of an official Japanese apology now? Many couldn't even remember when Japan invaded China. The frequent reminding and reworking of public sentiments and persistent demand for apology is for international political leverage.
 
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