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[nightsafari]

Why can't everyone let bygones be bygones, shake hands and start over on a clean slate?

cause they don't want to?

everyone wants more. more land, power, face, rights etc... not willing to concede or share or live and compete peacefully. in a word. uncivilized.

 

[whoami]

Why can't everyone let bygones be bygones, shake hands and start over on a clean slate?

Zionist jews/xtians refuse to. They intent to rule n reduce world population no more than 500 milllion. Zionist jews/xtians doesnt want peace

 

[syed putra]

During Ottoman rule in the late 19th century, Jerusalem and Israel, aka Palestine, had been sparsely populated. Jewish settlers started to move into Palestine after WW1, when it was under British Mandate. Large tracts of wasteland were bought back at high prices from moslem arab and turkish landowners. Subsequently, those lands were developed, attracting arab migrants from neighbouring Syria and Jordan, as well as Jews from Europe.

Definitely, there was violence against the Brits by agitators from the Stern gang and other radicals. Either way, the Brits were going to leave Palestine after WW2. The days of the British Empire was over. The land was split between the Jews and the Arabs, just like India was partitioned between the Hindus and the moslems. The hard truth was, the arabs wanted all of palestine while the Jews were agreeable to sharing the land. The arab moslems resulted to all out war because they were certain of their victory. They had the numbers and firepower on their side. They didn't expect to lose.

Israel had no entitlement of force. It won against the bad odds in 1948, and their odds improved from there. Nothing was offered to the Jews on a silver platter, not even from the Brits. Violence is an unpleasant but necessary solution because there are always assholes around wanting to invade. The moslems believe that their religion gives them the moral right to raid and invade non-moslems at will, proven consistently throughout history. Of course, every religion has their fair share of assholes. Even within the same society, we have assholes who start fights in public. So force of arms is necessary to send them packing.

I don't see jewish settlers razing arab villages, enslaving arab women and converting arab kids to judaism. Arab moslems would do all of that to the jewish and other non-moslem civilians if they ever won.

I believe the arabs were not just muslims but includes christians. Not all arab are muslims, the demographic of the area can be almost similar to lebanon just north of palestine where arab of muslim, , christians, shiites, and the druze were caught fighting one another in a long civil war

All areas that used to be part of ottoman empire are in turmoil. The Turks used to be the force that separates them and when they left, it was no holds barred.

This includes Serbia, bosnia, Macedonia, or part of former yugoslavia, syria, iraq and of course israel and palestine.

 

[syed putra]

Why can't everyone let bygones be bygones, shake hands and start over on a clean slate?

Thats because big money is involved. Plus that long unresolved issue of "right to return". Those arabs whose land were lost which is now part of israel wants it back

 

[Leongsam]

Thats because big money is involved. Plus that long unresolved issue of "right to return". Those arabs whose land were lost which is now part of israel wants it back

Arrange some sort of competition... boxing match, chess game, marathon, bike race... whatever. If Arabs win they get back their land. If they lose they accept the loss.

This will bring closure to the whole issue.

 

[JohnTan]

I believe the arabs were not just muslims but includes christians. Not all arab are muslims, the demographic of the area can be almost similar to lebanon just north of palestine where arab of muslim, , christians, shiites, and the druze were caught fighting one another in a long civil war

The arabs are predominantly moslem, with a minority of Christian arabs.

Lebanon was originally meant to be a christian arab country. It was the Paris of the Middle East. But post WW2, it got flooded with moslem refugees who eventually became citizens. Today, Lebanon is 67% moslem and controlled by shia islamist militants and a shithole.

The hard truth is that the various communities in the Middle East; Jews, Christians, shia moslems, sunni moslems, Kurds, Yazidis, Assyrians, should have their own homogenous countries. The Brits and the French did a poor job of parceling out the land amongst the various tribes and religions.

 

[JohnTan]

Arrange some sort of competition... boxing match, chess game, marathon, bike race... whatever. If Arabs win they get back their land. If they lose they accept the loss.

This will bring closure to the whole issue.

Already done. The arabs and the jews fought several wars. Each time, the arabs lost and the jews did not execute or enslave thousands of surrendered arab soldiers. And each time, the arabs refuse to accept their losses.

 

[syed putra]

Arafat when he initiated " intifada", lives in luxury in paris.
He should have sealed the peace deal with Ehud barak. Instead he dragged it and could not resolve it when israel in my opinion was bending over backwards to accommodate his whims and fancies. And he git a nobel peace prize for that.
Ehud Barak later on made a statement that yasser was not really interested in a peace deal. And i can understand why. There is no money for him in peace. He gets contributions from arab states and EU when there is war and mayhem.

 

[ilovechinesegal]

The said the same thing about japan too several decades ago.

Japan was going be the biggest economy at that time but got chickened out by the US trade war as their nation is small! They also have bad past atomic bomb experience so they submit to US! On the contrary, ah neh has around 1.3b peo but they still lose to a 126m japs peo!

US play trade war with china but this time round is a complete different level tough opponent that their trade war game does not scare away China!

 

[syed putra]

On the contrary, ah neh has around 1.3b peo but they still lose to a 126m japs peo!

Nonsense. Indians will soon flood japan's top management. Starting with nissan.


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Nissan Motor COO Ashwani Gupta Photo: REUTERS fileBusinessWho's in charge at Nissan? COO's allies push to give him shared CEO role
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By Norihiko Shirouzu

TOKYO
Nissan's chief operating officer Ashwani Gupta helped engineer the troubled automaker's latest turnaround plan. Now his allies are pressing the board to promote him to co-CEO to drive the new strategy, said four people with direct knowledge.
Thus far, Nissan Motor Co's 12-member board has no plan to change the roles of Chief Executive Makoto Uchida or his No. 2 Gupta, the sources told Reuters. But the behind-the-scenes campaign, involving at least half a dozen current and former executives, points to continued tensions at the top of the Japanese automaker, which has had four CEOs in four years.
The sources, all of whom have ties to Nissan's leadership team, declined to be identified because they aren't authorised to speak to reporters and because of the sensitivity of the topic.
Nissan responded in a statement to Reuters there are "no plans or consideration for any change in the management structure at Nissan, and no change to the close collaborative working relationship between Mr Uchida and Mr Gupta in their current roles." Speculation to the contrary is baseless and misleading, the statement went on.
Lobbying to promote Gupta, 49, has intensified, the sources said, since Nissan unveiled a four-year recovery plan on May 28 to slash costs and strengthen its global alliance with Renault and Mitsubishi. Indian-born Gupta, an industry veteran, was instrumental in drawing up the plan. His allies now want him to implement it.
According to the people with knowledge of the matter, Gupta's supporters are proposing that he either share the CEO role with Uchida, or replace his boss, with Uchida becoming chairman. One of the sources, a Nissan executive, told Reuters:"We're clear enough in telling the board what our expectations are. But we don't want to push the issue too hard. We want this to happen in a natural way."

 

[ilovechinesegal]

Nonsense. Indians will soon flood japan's top management. Starting with nissan.


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Nissan Motor COO Ashwani Gupta Photo: REUTERS fileBusinessWho's in charge at Nissan? COO's allies push to give him shared CEO role
Today 06:25 am JST 21 Comments


By Norihiko Shirouzu

TOKYO
Nissan's chief operating officer Ashwani Gupta helped engineer the troubled automaker's latest turnaround plan. Now his allies are pressing the board to promote him to co-CEO to drive the new strategy, said four people with direct knowledge.
Thus far, Nissan Motor Co's 12-member board has no plan to change the roles of Chief Executive Makoto Uchida or his No. 2 Gupta, the sources told Reuters. But the behind-the-scenes campaign, involving at least half a dozen current and former executives, points to continued tensions at the top of the Japanese automaker, which has had four CEOs in four years.
The sources, all of whom have ties to Nissan's leadership team, declined to be identified because they aren't authorised to speak to reporters and because of the sensitivity of the topic.
Nissan responded in a statement to Reuters there are "no plans or consideration for any change in the management structure at Nissan, and no change to the close collaborative working relationship between Mr Uchida and Mr Gupta in their current roles." Speculation to the contrary is baseless and misleading, the statement went on.
Lobbying to promote Gupta, 49, has intensified, the sources said, since Nissan unveiled a four-year recovery plan on May 28 to slash costs and strengthen its global alliance with Renault and Mitsubishi. Indian-born Gupta, an industry veteran, was instrumental in drawing up the plan. His allies now want him to implement it.
According to the people with knowledge of the matter, Gupta's supporters are proposing that he either share the CEO role with Uchida, or replace his boss, with Uchida becoming chairman. One of the sources, a Nissan executive, told Reuters:"We're clear enough in telling the board what our expectations are. But we don't want to push the issue too hard. We want this to happen in a natural way."

Still lose to japan! Need to get employed by japs mnc! Ah neh has 1.3b peo and japs has 126m peo and only now then ah neh trying to catch up the gap! Ah neh must try to overatke japan and EU b4 talking about US and China!

 

[syed putra]

Still lose to japan! Need to get employed by japs mnc! Ah neh has 1.3b peo and japs has 126m peo and only now then ah neh trying to catch up the gap! Ah neh must try to overatke japan and EU b4 talking about US and China!

Indians already did a reverse takeover of US silicon valley. To reform economy of India is almost impossible. Its easier to do it overseas by stealth.

 

[ilovechinesegal]

Indians already did a reverse takeover of US silicon valley. To reform economy of India is almost impossible. Its easier to do it overseas by stealth.

Tat mean all the high IQ ah rich neh will leave india then india will always be poor!

 

[syed putra]

Tat mean all the high IQ ah rich neh will leave india then india will always be poor!

Indua is poor because it has created too many regulations hindeting businesses.

 

[ilovechinesegal]

Indua is poor because it has created too many regulations hindeting businesses.

Not really! Too many different ah neh tribe that does not understand each other language! This will be similar into broken into many different small nations! Plus, ah neh moslem there create even more divide and havoc!

 

[JohnTan]

cause they don't want to?

everyone wants more. more land, power, face, rights etc... not willing to concede or share or live and compete peacefully. in a word. uncivilized.

Israel just wants a sliver of land in the Middle East for their own country. They want their country Israel, not a regional or global empire. Nearly everywhere else in the middle east is Arab.

 

[nightsafari]

Israel just wants a sliver of land in the Middle East for their own country. They want their country Israel, not a regional or global empire. Nearly everywhere else in the middle east is Arab.

they should've figured a better way of glad-handing those non-desirables than their early high-handed riding in on a high-horse approach.

 

[syed putra]

Israel just wants a sliver of land in the Middle East for their own country. They want their country Israel, not a regional or global empire. Nearly everywhere else in the middle east is Arab.

Its a question of " face". Or loss of pride.

 

[JohnTan]

But are you aware from the start, that there was a kind of Nazism running around the minds of the Jews? Ashkenazis in particular seemed to have been deeply infected by Hitler. Like it or not, they effectively operated as prodigies of Hitler. Lebensraum was being enacted in terms of land grabs one way or another. Racial divides also sprung up.

Yes I'm aware. Not all the Jews are nice. There are racists everywhere.

Rightfully or wrongfully, Arabs were treated with contempt right from the beginning. Gaza has become a Palestinian WW2 ghetto. Except instead of the SS you have the IDF.

Two corrections here:

Gaza became the ghetto that it is because they voted in Hamas. When Israel pulled out of Gaza, the arabs were given entire farms to take over. If they kept to peace, there would have been trade between the palestinians and the israelis. But Hamas took over Gaza and wanted to fight all the time. Nearly all the aid that went into Gaza went to Hamas. Gaza is basically North Korea of the middle east.

A better equivalent of the SS would be the Jewish Stern Gang instead of the IDF. IDF is the national army. Even during WW2 and post WW2, the german military were keen to differentiate the wehrmarcht national army from the SS.

So in answer to your final paragraph, they don't do as the Muslims do. They do as the Nazi's did. They don't believe in mingling with an inferior race. But in many ways, I sometimes feel that they deserve each other.

Moslem preachers regularly preach to their congregation not to take jews and christians as their friends, aka don't mingle with them or don't mingle seriously with them. That should be nazism too.

The jews deserve to be constantly tormented by the moslems because they did not expel all of the palestinians. That kind gesture was not appreciated by the moslem arabs and seen instead as a sign of weakness. Hamas keeps firing rockets into israel because they know that no matter how the IDF retaliates, it will not go to the extent of exterminating the palestinians or hamas for good. It'll just be another skirmish, followed by more "aloha snackbars" from every mosque.

I feel they brought their European violence and aggression back to a relatively sleepy backwater.

Jerusalem only flourished under non-moslem rule throughout history. When moslems took over Jerusalem, they immediately neglected it and condemned it to a sleepy backwater. When the Jews took it back again in 1948 and 1967, Jerusalem immediately regained its importance. A good analogy would be like a spoilt brat snatching away other people's toy, losing interest in it and throwing it one side, and screaming to get it back once others pick it up again.

Jerusalem was never once mentioned in their quran, yet it is supposedly moslems' third holiest shrine. Jerusalem is mentioned many many times in the Torah and the Bible, and yet Jews and Christians are expected to give up their holy shrines to the screaming moslems simply because they are throwing tantrums.

 

[JohnTan]

they should've figured a better way of glad-handing those non-desirables than their early high-handed riding in on a high-horse approach.

The Jews, capable of they were, didn't have Ah Gong. Ah Gong managed to out-Jew the Jewish Chief Minister of Singapore.