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How Jesus ended up as God
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Waaah. Here thunder lightning fightg each other. Takut PC nt explode.
Later ans u..
Even arabs ignore mecca. Their glorious buildings and centre 9f trade and learning were in baghdad, damascus, tashket, andalusua spain.
I will not be vaccinated and end up being slave to bill gates.
U mean no way to prove Islam is from Allah?
We pray facing Mecca sort of a form of unity. One ummah. Allah is the Creator. HES everywhere. Not at a specific place. U dont see Muslims wearing rings or woman with ornaments with shape of kaaba. U dont see statues of kaaba in Masjid.
No prayers necessary for as these were made up in the hadiths. Historians have stated that hadiths cannot be verified and therefore are mostly hearsay and made up.
How u know Islam is strangling me? Cartoon lah u. Tonite is malam jumaat. Tom is Jumaat. I am very happy when jumaat is around the corner. Oh ya. Being a Muslim i know wats in store for me in the Hereafter. I am religiously prepared. How abt u? Are u prepare to answer to the angels when ur buried 6ft underground...when ur all alone?
Its up to individual. Unless garment required it to be mandatory by law.
I will wave to you eith my 72 chinese night club girls in the next life.
yah... that's what I think too. So I'm still searching for the truth.
Search bro. Dont stop. I always told my friends when reaching 55....2/3 or even 3/4 of ur life gone leow. u have only few years left to repent and search for the truth. Cos the hereafter is eternal. U make the wrong choice, tats it. When ur all alone in the grave (or cremated) no one will hear u shout for help. Too late to repent by then bro.
U believe 6 million jews gas to death?
I wouldn't know.
But jews controls Hollywood and it encourages promiscuous living and now promoting lbgt lifestyle,
But jews controls Hollywood and it encourages promiscuous living and now promoting lbgt lifestyle,
The REAL Story:
Although the historical data in itself leaves much to be desired…The real story is far more dangerous than may be expected.
"When our verses are recited for them, those who do not expect to meet us would say, 'Bring a Quran other than this, or change it.' Say (O Muhammad), 'I cannot change it on my own initiative. I simply follow what is revealed to me. I fear, if I disobey my Lord, the retribution of a terrible day.' ...Who is more wicked than one who invents lies about God, or rejects His revelations? The guilty never succeed. Yet, they idolize beside God those who possess no power to harm them or benefit them, and say, 'These are our intercessors with God.' ...such is idol-worship." (Quran, 10:15-18)
The above verse clearly states that the people who's hearts did not believe the message from GOD asked the Prophet to bring a "different" Quran, or even "change" it.
And Mohammed's response was: 'I CANNOT change it, I simply FOLLOW what is revealed to me!'.
The Prophet could not "make-up" his own religion to suite the desires of all those around him….He was COMMANDED to adhere to the Quran and nothing but the Quran.
Yet, it seems that after Mohammed's death, those who's hearts did not really accept the message that he brought started to in-fact "change" the Quran by adding to it.
It seems these people who were spreading false teachings and attributing them to GOD did not heed the Prophet's warning:
"Shall I seek OTHER THAN THE GOD as a source of law, when He has revealed THIS BOOK FULLY DETAILED? ....The word of your Lord is COMPLETE, in truth and justice. Nothing shall abrogate His words; He is the hearer, the omniscient. Yet, if you obey the majority of people, they will take you away from the path of The God. That is because they follow CONJECTURE, and they fail to think." (Quran, 6:114-116)
The Prophet taught people NOT to seek other than GOD as their source of law since He had revealed a FULLY DETAILED book!.
The Prophet also warned people not to listen to what the MAJORITY have to say, because he knew that they only follow CONJECTURE!.
Yet, despite all these clear warnings, the people after Mohammed could not resist to make false claims that the Quran was NOT detailed, and that it needed a mish-mash of hearsay to interpret.
They claimed that although the Quran was complete (as per GOD's statement), it still did not cover all the areas of jurisprudence that needed covering.
Perhaps they did not reflect upon the following verse:
"And We have sent down the Book to you as a CLARITY FOR EVERYTHING, and a guidance and mercy and good news for those who Submit." (Quran 16:89)
In light of such evidence, it is extremely difficult for any sincere followers of GOD to simply turn their backs to what the Quran has to say and hand their destinies over to people for whom GOD was not enough.
The BEST 'Hadith':
For those who still have a desire to hold onto 'Hadith' after all the evidence presented...there is just ONE Hadith that we deem to be authentic and also encourage all people to goto:
"The GOD has revealed herein the best Hadith; a book that is consistent, and points out both ways. The skins of those who reverence their Lord cringe therefrom, then their skins and their hearts soften up for The GOD's message. Such is The GOD's guidance; He bestows it upon whoever wills. As for those sent astray by The GOD, nothing can guide them." (39:23)
Conclusion:
Idol worship, or associating partners with GOD, is the only unforgivable sin that is mentioned in the Quran. Yet, it seems that for the majority of us, our minds cannot accept GOD Alone!.
"The God DOES NOT FORGIVE that partners be established with Him, but He forgives other than that to whom He wishes" (4/48)
And the ultimate litmus test can only be:
When The God ALONE is mentioned, the hearts of those who do not believe in the hereafter shrink with aversion. But when idols are mentioned besides Him, they rejoice (39:45).
Did talking about upholding the Quran Alone bother you?. Or does your heart really believe?.
"They are the ones who examine all words, then follow the best. These are the ones whom GOD has guided; these are the ones who possess intelligence." (39:18)
Although the historical data in itself leaves much to be desired…The real story is far more dangerous than may be expected.
"When our verses are recited for them, those who do not expect to meet us would say, 'Bring a Quran other than this, or change it.' Say (O Muhammad), 'I cannot change it on my own initiative. I simply follow what is revealed to me. I fear, if I disobey my Lord, the retribution of a terrible day.' ...Who is more wicked than one who invents lies about God, or rejects His revelations? The guilty never succeed. Yet, they idolize beside God those who possess no power to harm them or benefit them, and say, 'These are our intercessors with God.' ...such is idol-worship." (Quran, 10:15-18)
The above verse clearly states that the people who's hearts did not believe the message from GOD asked the Prophet to bring a "different" Quran, or even "change" it.
And Mohammed's response was: 'I CANNOT change it, I simply FOLLOW what is revealed to me!'.
The Prophet could not "make-up" his own religion to suite the desires of all those around him….He was COMMANDED to adhere to the Quran and nothing but the Quran.
Yet, it seems that after Mohammed's death, those who's hearts did not really accept the message that he brought started to in-fact "change" the Quran by adding to it.
It seems these people who were spreading false teachings and attributing them to GOD did not heed the Prophet's warning:
"Shall I seek OTHER THAN THE GOD as a source of law, when He has revealed THIS BOOK FULLY DETAILED? ....The word of your Lord is COMPLETE, in truth and justice. Nothing shall abrogate His words; He is the hearer, the omniscient. Yet, if you obey the majority of people, they will take you away from the path of The God. That is because they follow CONJECTURE, and they fail to think." (Quran, 6:114-116)
The Prophet taught people NOT to seek other than GOD as their source of law since He had revealed a FULLY DETAILED book!.
The Prophet also warned people not to listen to what the MAJORITY have to say, because he knew that they only follow CONJECTURE!.
Yet, despite all these clear warnings, the people after Mohammed could not resist to make false claims that the Quran was NOT detailed, and that it needed a mish-mash of hearsay to interpret.
They claimed that although the Quran was complete (as per GOD's statement), it still did not cover all the areas of jurisprudence that needed covering.
Perhaps they did not reflect upon the following verse:
"And We have sent down the Book to you as a CLARITY FOR EVERYTHING, and a guidance and mercy and good news for those who Submit." (Quran 16:89)
In light of such evidence, it is extremely difficult for any sincere followers of GOD to simply turn their backs to what the Quran has to say and hand their destinies over to people for whom GOD was not enough.
The BEST 'Hadith':
For those who still have a desire to hold onto 'Hadith' after all the evidence presented...there is just ONE Hadith that we deem to be authentic and also encourage all people to goto:
"The GOD has revealed herein the best Hadith; a book that is consistent, and points out both ways. The skins of those who reverence their Lord cringe therefrom, then their skins and their hearts soften up for The GOD's message. Such is The GOD's guidance; He bestows it upon whoever wills. As for those sent astray by The GOD, nothing can guide them." (39:23)
Conclusion:
Idol worship, or associating partners with GOD, is the only unforgivable sin that is mentioned in the Quran. Yet, it seems that for the majority of us, our minds cannot accept GOD Alone!.
"The God DOES NOT FORGIVE that partners be established with Him, but He forgives other than that to whom He wishes" (4/48)
And the ultimate litmus test can only be:
When The God ALONE is mentioned, the hearts of those who do not believe in the hereafter shrink with aversion. But when idols are mentioned besides Him, they rejoice (39:45).
Did talking about upholding the Quran Alone bother you?. Or does your heart really believe?.
"They are the ones who examine all words, then follow the best. These are the ones whom GOD has guided; these are the ones who possess intelligence." (39:18)
I really wonder whether u understand wat u just posted?
Summarise them to prove u understand wat ur reading. 
Ok. Don't say I didn't inform you.
Are you so daft that you cannot tell the difference between religion and politics?
And thus by your own admission the Bible is only as relevant as Muslims hadith's.
Bingo! The various steppe tribes of Central Asia - turks, mongol, etc, were the carriers of islam from the 10th century onwards.
The arabs, the first carriers of islam, spread islam within the confines of the Rashidun and Abbassid dynasties.
The second wave of islam started with the seljuk turks, who expanded into persia, afghanistan and anatolia. From afghanistan, other waves of lesser known moslem turkic invaders invaded india and over centuries of conquests, slaughter and forced conversions, made islam into a significant religion in india.
The third major wave would be the ottoman turks from the mid 14 century, who consolidated islamic control over anatolia and spread islam into balkan europe. In the 16 century, the ottoman provided military support to moslem states in Ethiopia, sultanates in India and even as far as Aceh, to carry out jihad against non-moslems and to fight proxy wars against the Portuguese.
In islam, religion is politics and politics is religion. There is no difference. Like I said, you know shit about islam.
For Christians, only the Bible is the Word of God. In islam, the quran is only half the word of the moon god. The other missing half, the hadith, would only be compiled at least 150 years later.
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