How Jesus ended up as God

[nightsafari]

Not everthing is DIY. Salvation bro.

Salvation I think is DIY. If not you save yourself how then? Someone else save you?? Or I tak faham.....

 

[nightsafari]

Now abang? Tot u told us ur half aneh/cheena?

abang is respect lah. like bro. doesn't matter race for me.

 

[syed putra]

wait, wait a second. I was wondering if the Mongols never went that far West would Islam have spread as far as it did today. Conjecture. Not direct fact.

Islam has a tendency to be insular and not spread. With the Mongols and their "legs" and spread, I wonder if they were the "carriers" of Islam.

Arabs were already at china border 120 years after the presumed death of prophet mohamed. They clashed with Tang dynasty army at Talas river and won.but retreated due to start of civil war.

 

[nightsafari]

In Iran, political power is in the hands of the clerics. In jiuhu, PAS key leadership is held by ustaz. For UMNO, politicians wield political power by controlling the mosques, which in turn, controls the people like sheep. In Indonesia, the vice president is a cleric. When moslems rage and riot, it is often due to their religious scholars and clerics helping to stir trouble. Even terrorists groups like al qaeda and taliban have the support of their local clerics and ustaz.

and now you have the worst of the worst. a political priesthood!

hadith came about 150 years after the quran was compiled. So the first group of moslems had to make do without hadith. quran was supposed to be the final word of your moon god, but it turns out that even allah got that part wrong. On top of allowing part of his quran to be permanently erased by hungry goats eating quran, allah didn't forsee that the final religious text of islam would be the hadith.

ah... I don't see how allah has a part to play in all this. It's likely all religious and priest fiction.

 

[nightsafari]

Arabs were already at china border 20 years after the presumed death of prophet mohamed. They clashed with Tang dynasty army at Talas river and won.but retreated due to start of civil war.

well? so do you think my theory got substance a not? That the mongols were like hosts to Islam and helped it's spread?

 

[glockman]

Now abang? Tot u told us ur half aneh/cheena?

I am everything, and also nothing.

 

[glockman]

well. I was thinking of something else. In all the information I can find so far, it seems that Mohammed kept promoting peace. I think it's remarkable because that part of the world in that time not peaceful. Whatever else said about him I cannot find any evidence, so I put aside.

Jesus story if I could summarize in 1 word would be forgiveness. I think it's important lessons to learn from these two. So peace and forgiveness.

Now contrast that instead with the religions created after their death using their name.

Because of religions and their political nature, we have neither peace nor forgiveness. Interesting no?

@glockman for you 2!

The best of intentions will always get fucked by people with personal agendas.

 

[nightsafari]

The best of intentions will always get fucked by people with personal agendas.

and guess which kind of people always tries to control people through religion and/or politics?

 

[glockman]

and guess which kind of people always tries to control people through religion and/or politics?

I have no idea.

 

[whoami]

uh... er.... ah... choosing to follow something because of threats to eternal soul is compulsion. If no threats and soul was guaranteed no matter what then that's truly free will.

Communism is an upgrade to compulsion. It's slavery.

Mankind nid to know the consequences for rejectg the TRUTH. Allah azzawajal is fair. So on judgement day ur soul cannot plead ignorant n claim why u had not been warned. Adil kan?

 

[nightsafari]

Mankind nid to know the consequences for rejectg the TRUTH. Allah azzawajal is fair. So on judgement day ur soul cannot plead ignorant n claim why u had not been warned. Adil kan?

yah... that's what I think too. So I'm still searching for the truth.

 

[syed putra]

well? so do you think my theory got substance a not? That the mongols were like hosts to Islam and helped it's spread?

If mongols rampages in muslim world and eventually some became muslims.but they were at war with land already under islamic rule except for russia and Baltic states, where they are known as tartars and remained muslims in name only till this day,
The mongols under kublai's yuan dynasty appointed muslim bureaucrats to manage china. The mongols were at the top with Muslims as second class citizens and chinese at the bottom as I was informed.islam did not catch on with chinese many chinese.
When mongols invaded india, northern indua was already islamic under Delhi sultanate.

 

[nightsafari]

today's update / priests hard at work :

Indonesia's MUI to issue fatwa on Covid-19 vaccine amid concerns over halal status

An official checks on Covid-19 vaccines as they arrive at PT Bio Farma (Persero) in the first shipment to Indonesia in Bandung.PHOTO: REUTERS

• PUBLISHED
  DEC 9, 2020, 12:05 PM SGT

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JAKARTA (THE JAKARTA POST/ASIA NEWS NETWORK) - The authorities in Indonesia have finished a study on the halal status of a possible Covid-19 vaccine.

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/s...9-vaccine-amid-concerns-over-its-halal-status

 

[nightsafari]

If mongols rampages in muslim world and eventually some became muslims.but they were at war with kand already under islam Is rule except for russia and Baltic states, where they are known as tartars and remained muslims in name only till this day,
The mongols under kublai's yuan dynasty appointed muslim bureaucrats to manage china. The mongols were at the top with Muslims as second class citizens and chinese at the bottom as I was informed.

so you agree there's some possibility?

 

[whoami]

well. I was thinking of something else. In all the information I can find so far, it seems that Mohammed kept promoting peace. I think it's remarkable because that part of the world in that time not peaceful. Whatever else said about him I cannot find any evidence, so I put aside.

Jesus story if I could summarize in 1 word would be forgiveness. I think it's important lessons to learn from these two. So peace and forgiveness.

Now contrast that instead with the religions created after their death using their name.

Because of religions and their political nature, we have neither peace nor forgiveness. Interesting no?

@glockman for you 2!

Ehhhh....watever we do, we begin n utter "in the name of Allah s.w.t." Not prophet Muhammad pbuh name. The other religion they "pray" in the name of a human. Tak sama ya. Ur confused. Anyway Allah is Merciful n Compassionate.

 

[whoami]

abang is respect lah. like bro. doesn't matter race for me.

I know lah. Just kiddin with tat jolly good fella...

 

[whoami]

I am everything, and also nothing.

Ur r golckman. But in hereafter we r all nothung.

 

[nightsafari]

Ehhhh....watever we do, we begin n utter "in the name of Allah s.w.t." Not prophet Muhammad pbuh name. The other religion they "pray" in the name of a human. Tak sama ya. Ur confused. Anyway Allah is Merciful n Compassionate.

aiyoh, where did I say you pray to Mohammed?? And unfortunately, there is no way to prove that Islam is correct about allah.

One thing that puzzles me though, is that if you praying to allah, why should direction matter? Why the need to face Mecca? Is allah there?

 

[syed putra]

Mankind nid to know the consequences for rejectg the TRUTH. Allah azzawajal is fair. So on judgement day ur soul cannot plead ignorant n claim why u had not been warned. Adil kan?

The truth shall set your free my brother. Right now, its strangling you.

 

[whoami]

today's update / priests hard at work :

Indonesia's MUI to issue fatwa on Covid-19 vaccine amid concerns over halal status

An official checks on Covid-19 vaccines as they arrive at PT Bio Farma (Persero) in the first shipment to Indonesia in Bandung.PHOTO: REUTERS

• PUBLISHED
  DEC 9, 2020, 12:05 PM SGT

FACEBOOKTWITTER

JAKARTA (THE JAKARTA POST/ASIA NEWS NETWORK) - The authorities in Indonesia have finished a study on the halal status of a possible Covid-19 vaccine.

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/s...9-vaccine-amid-concerns-over-its-halal-status

When in time of emergency saving lives is utmost importance. Even haram pig is halal aka permissable to eat.