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George Yeo can break SAF bond while Dr Allan Ooi can't???

Porfirio Rubirosa

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Nothing personal and hope you do not take this the wrong way but i find your explanation a tad weak and lame...

you see time and time again i note you take on a political cause/endeavour, probably with good intentions...and with great public fanfare even courting international media at times as well...but then after a great start your endeavours inevitably appear to fizzle out...

it also does not help that you have flip flopped from political parties starting off with PAP no less (the fact that you appeared to join PAP post the marxist conspiracy 87' is perhaps troubling although i would give you the benefit of the doubt that at that time you lacked political maturity)...

accordingly it would appear that your heart may be in the right place but you lack credibility because of your apparent inability to see through your political cause/endeavour time and again...after awhile it makes one wonder whether one could actually take you seriously...

perhaps you should bear this in mind - never start what you are not or may not be prepared to see through and finish...

I am a poor lawyer fighting a battle which is more often than not on a lonely front. I can only render the help i can. Sometimes such cases which are fully pro bono do clash with paid work.

Like i said before even 300/ hour is whittled down to almost nothing by our high costs and overheads. I am only one individual i do what i can.

There are 3000 other lawyers, if you know any of them, try to get them to take on political cases too.
 

Leckmichamarsch

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In the previous exchange, Dr Chee Soon Juan asked Foreign Minister George Yeo what his salary was and whether he felt he deserved it. Mr Yeo did not want to answer the question but said that he had to borrow money to break his bond when he joined the PAP. The minister was an SAF scholar.


Dear Dr Chee

It is not for me to judge myself. When I entered politics, I had to borrow money to break bond. At Harvard Business School, I was recruited by investment banks and GIC but could not accept because I was under bond to the SAF. Salary scale of ministers' salaries are published.

If you don't mind, I rather not be moving on to other points at your pleasure.

George
Dear George,

I am sorry you chose not to answer my question. As I said, I was not trying to set you up or embarrass you. My question was a genuine attempt to try to understand why our ministers pay themselves so excessively.

It is a very vexing issue for Singaporeans. People are not unreasonable, if there is a good and sincere explanation, they will understand and accept it. But ministers don't want to explain anything, you just want to ram it down our throats.

As for your salary, a quick search will reveal your American counterpart's pay. Hillary Clinton's salary is US$186,600 per year. But I can't find yours even after an extended search. Why the reluctance to tell Singaporeans how much their Foreign Minister is paid?

I guess we'll just have to let readers form their own opinions about why you choose not to answer these questions.

On the other points: I did not mean to be presumptuous in deciding when to discuss them. I just thought that for clarity's sake, we could dwell on one point at a time. My apologies.

I was intrigued that whilst you were at MTI that you had considered introducing minimum wage but decided against it because, in your words, "Beyond a certain point, it will drive investors away."

It is true that if workers are paid too much, that is, beyond what they are worth, the market will react and businesses will find it impossible to cope.

But just as workers can be paid too much, they can also be paid too little. Minimum Wage set at a reasonable level, after seeking the views of workers and employers, will ensure that the see-saw is balanced. The current situation protects the foreign investor while exploiting the local worker. This is not right.

And the solution to investors leaving is not to suppress wages but to allow an entrepreneurial class to build up in Singapore which the Government has failed to do. Local businesses can be enticed to stay on in Singapore through various tax regimes. This way we don't have to depend on foreign investors that much.

By the way, did Lee Hsien Loong and Philip Yeo say anything about you breaking your bond? And being a bond-breaker yourself, did you defend the other bond-breakers who were criticised in Parliament?

Your resoponse again greatly appreciated.

Soon Juan
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Having to fend off CSJ, GY finally has found justification for his super compensations.................. at last he need to work very hard for his salary!!

Keep on prodding Chee.......... bye!
 

Porfirio Rubirosa

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yes well spotted...i would have thought the oppos could have reached out to AMP and try to cultivate at least 1 or 2 chaps from the same...

you see i still get the impression that perhaps quite afew malay/muslims view the pap malay/mps as 'uncle toms'...also i agree with scroobal and goh meng seng on the point that with the latest cabinet reshuffle and appt of new nmps the malay/muslim community may be slightly unhappy because there was little upward movement amongst their representatives...although the latest BG appointment may have helped to ameliorate things abit...

Then something has changed since the AMP episode and when Goh who was then PM had to go down and appease them. Some issue about alternative Malay leadership.
 

leetahbar

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Dear Scroobal

Interestingly enough, Dr Chee just cannot let go of personal issues whenever he engages with the PAP. In his exchanges with G Yeo currently ,He is aasking dear old georgie why he thinks he was justified in breaking the bond :_)). And yes hounding the man for his exact salary when what is publically available is the max possible salary inclusive of all bonuses.


Locke

chee's warped pattern is like this. he can ask minitoots to explain for their obscene pays but when asked whether chee himself were financially backed up by foreign sinister forces, the cheebye kia keeps mum.

yep! as usual. his DEMOCRAPSY is the best!:oIo:
 

leetahbar

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u see hor...only moron like u need to smell a pussy to know whether it is smelly or not.

for smart people.....one look at her fuck face, i know her pussy damn bladdy smelly.

hahaha.

wow lau!! TAMPON!!! TAMPON!! KOTEK!! the nerd loves it for his breakfast n maybe sniffing it to help him sleeps better.:biggrin::biggrin:
 

leetahbar

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I know of one particular gathering in particular where everyone was mesmerised including one idiot who I thought had little between his ears and intelligence revolved around types of golf courses. Chee was there not for politics nor was he the guest but he was asked to comment about it and the whole session was his and they were clamouring for more. No one from his party or any other politicians from the opposition or ruling party was there. I was not there but heard about it shortly after.

How do you explain that? Bizarre.

chee's favorite pastime is to slang at singapore and try his utter best to embarrass and discredit the leaders. tell me, isn't this exactly what national traitorous betrayer behave?

and to think he's concerned for singapore....my god!! he's concerned abiout when he can bring down the whole of singapore and answer proudly to his foreign backers.:oIo:
 

leetahbar

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Sorry i missed out on that point. Did Ravi allege that i used him? :smile:

everyone suspect and allege u use the abc troll lamei. would u care or dare to explain further? in turn, lamei pussyjuice the nerd ngejay and exploits him for all her nonsense.

if we look at the hierachy system, it seems that u r at the top of the pyramid!

care to refute such allegation and suspicion?:rolleyes:
 

leetahbar

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Its seemed to have worked. You are now in the forum engaging people instead of directing fire behind some skirt.

Don't worry, we will hold your hands while you are here by yourself. Just as there are many ways to skin a cat, there are also many ways to draw out a weasel.

Hope you managed to get a cup of coffee and a bite on your way here.

he directs the skirt while the skirt pussyjuice the horny perverted cheongster nerd....and these are the people we are supposed to believe to fight for peasants!

oh santa maria!!
 

leetahbar

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I have no views .The very reason why I asked you to explain yourself.

your gaylord idol has many views. but he isn't explaining. only he asks, you answer but not the other way round. strangely, this looks like the style of chee soon juan too.:rolleyes:
 

leetahbar

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I am a poor lawyer fighting a battle which is more often than not on a lonely front. I can only render the help i can. Sometimes such cases which are fully pro bono do clash with paid work.

Like i said before even 300/ hour is whittled down to almost nothing by our high costs and overheads. I am only one individual i do what i can.

There are 3000 other lawyers, if you know any of them, try to get them to take on political cases too.

just admit u are a hopless half past six lawyer that is easily seduced by a married troll - the beginning of all ur suffering.

how did MICHELLE lose her baby? are u now officially the husband of the troll? or did she commit bigamy with 2 husbands?

ya, right! poor lawyer owning 3 kong out bikes and a host of noisy speakers. just how much u make from your Yishun flat sale? the troll has accused HDB of profiteering from peasants. did u also profiteer from that sale? by how much?

before u guys set out to post inflamming threads hoping to stir the anger n disharmony among the society and causing disunity, strife and unhappiness - please ask yourself - CAN WE SEE THROUGH YOUR REAL MOTIVE?

if we can, then please SHUD THE FUCKUP!:oIo:
 

leetahbar

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see what i mean?

the nerd, ngejay is MISSING IN ACTION here. in his place, he deploys all this nasty clones which post irrelevant spammings.

and these are the people we are suppose to believe?

the only way to SHUDTHEFUCKUP them would be best leave to the authority.

the day of reckoning is near! lay back, relax and have some popcorns!:cool:
 

guavatree

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just admit u are a hopless half past six lawyer that is easily seduced by a married troll - the beginning of all ur suffering.

how did MICHELLE lose her baby? are u now officially the husband of the troll? or did she commit bigamy with 2 husbands?

ya, right! poor lawyer owning 3 kong out bikes and a host of noisy speakers. just how much u make from your Yishun flat sale? the troll has accused HDB of profiteering from peasants. did u also profiteer from that sale? by how much?

before u guys set out to post inflamming threads hoping to stir the anger n disharmony among the society and causing disunity, strife and unhappiness - please ask yourself - CAN WE SEE THROUGH YOUR REAL MOTIVE?

if we can, then please SHUD THE FUCKUP!:oIo:


old fart pondan temple thief PAP bootlicking dog

day in day out keep repeating the same old fucking long winded whinge

go and get a job and don't be a fucking kaypohji!

your appalling gay behavior is worse than a menopause woman!

chao ah kwa when you last had menses?

LOL
 

guavatree

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see what i mean?

the nerd, ngejay is MISSING IN ACTION here. in his place, he deploys all this nasty clones which post irrelevant spammings.

and these are the people we are suppose to believe?

the only way to SHUDTHEFUCKUP them would be best leave to the authority.

the day of reckoning is near! lay back, relax and have some popcorns!:cool:


old fart fake monk chao ah kwa

Engaged in illicit gay activities is a crime!

Stealing temple donations is a crime!

Bashing your father is a crime!

Conning property is a crime!
 

guavatree

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in his place, he deploys all this nasty clones which post irrelevant spammings

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old fart chao ah kwa temple thief father basher, they're NOT clones!

they're SWINE HUNTERS exposing your cunning, wicked, evil, hypocrite and moronic character & behavior !!!

LOL
 

Perspective

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yes well spotted...i would have thought the oppos could have reached out to AMP and try to cultivate at least 1 or 2 chaps from the same...

I believe some did. The connection was a Muslim a friend of the opposition and the Muslim NGO where he leads. That leader wasn't with AMP but some members of the NGO were. As it turned out and not unexpected (to me at least), the chaps in AMP only stopped at wanting to work in conjunction with the PAP/government/state/etablishment. Other key NGO chaps who stood with the leader in the tudung issue suddenly u-turned and ousted their leader. He had by then stood with PKMS and SDP over the tudung issue plus some affair case suddenly cropped up mysteriously. Turned out that winning AMP over is like trying to win NTUC over from PAP. The reins are there.

Suspect even one prominent Malay isn't enough to help opposition on Malay support. He'll just fall out of favour with the rest. I find another way for the opposition, presently Malay-dearth and mainly Chinese/Indian, to win Malay support but that is my own opinion.
 

Perspective

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perhaps you should bear this in mind - never start what you are not or may not be prepared to see through and finish...

I think opposition and opposition politicians need to ask themselves what is the biggest missing factor among all factors of their cause, rather than try to fulfill a missing factor that is most in tandem with their personal agenda. Maybe they will be able to find their way through PAP-dominated politics a bit better.
 

leetahbar

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I think opposition and opposition politicians need to ask themselves what is the biggest missing factor among all factors of their cause, rather than try to fulfill a missing factor that is most in tandem with their personal agenda. Maybe they will be able to find their way through PAP-dominated politics a bit better.

as peasants have witnessed the lame mentality of chee soon juan, it indirectly affected the image of the rest of the opp parties political wannabes.

then again, certain criteria about them are seriously missing.

SINCERITY & HONESTY....

if there's doubt implanted in peasants' impression, they rather play safe and vote in the brand-name of paps. it's sad but is there any other alternatives?

just look at how those clowns.....it's just a laughing stock they make themselves to be of which chee is the biggest!:(
 
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