Fandi Ahmad demoted to assistant coach

[jw5]

haiyah, first list is Kenny-nabu, Brendan fraser, Pep-siCo, Carlo Bruni et al...

one of these days, they need to appoint a pope with the surname secola.

 

[jw5]

While Shearer may not be a good example, enterprise does have a valid point regarding good players being bad coaches. There are plenty of good players who turned out to be lousy coaches - Roy Keane, Paul Ince, Graeme Sounness, Gareth Southgate, Stuart Pierce and even Mark Hughes can be considered a failed coach.

And the reverse is also true - average players become good coaches - Alex Ferguson and Jose Mourinho are in this category.

Hey! Fergie was a top player in his day ok!
He was a top goalscorer in the scottish league and claimed that he scored a goal when his team played King Kenny's team early in the latter's career.
Of course Kenny claimed that he does not remember that.

 

[Narong Wongwan]

Hey! Fergie was a top player in his day ok!
He was a top goalscorer in the scottish league and claimed that he scored a goal when his team played King Kenny's team early in the latter's career.
Of course Kenny claimed that he does not remember that.

Yes to call fergie an average player was an insult.
He broke the then transfer record for a Scottish player.
Nottingham Forest (a top team then) wanted him too.

Back to average players as good coaches....
Mourinho could not even cut it as a player....other examples like Arsene Wenger never even got pass the school football league.

 

[jw5]

Yes to call fergie an average player was an insult.
He broke the then transfer record for a Scottish player.
Nottingham Forest (a top team then) wanted him too.

Back to average players as good coaches....
Mourinho could not even cut it as a player....other examples like Arsene Wenger never even got pass the school football league.

LOL, that's true about Mourinho and Wenger as players, but they have proven themselves as coaches.

Can't say the same about Kenny, errr, I mean Brendan Rogers.

 

[I_Hate_Pappies]

Can't say the same about Kenny, errr, I mean Brendan Rogers.

What wrong with Brendan? He is just being consistent. That's all.

 

[enterprise2]

Yes to call fergie an average player was an insult.
He broke the then transfer record for a Scottish player.
Nottingham Forest (a top team then) wanted him too.

Back to average players as good coaches....
Mourinho could not even cut it as a player....other examples like Arsene Wenger never even got pass the school football league.

Wow correcting incorrect football facts is a full time job here!!!. Wenger was a pro football player....just not a good one.
Wenger was recruited to nearby third division club Mutzig at the age of 18.[9] The club was famed for playing the "best amateur football" in Alsace, managed by Max Hild, who would later go on to become Wenger's mentor.[2] Wenger's playing career was modest. It is unclear which position he played[a] but he was described by Marcel Brandner, president of FC Duttlenheim as having "an ability to guard the ball ... he seemed to have a complete vision of the pitch and he certainly had an influence among his team-mates."[3]

He joined Mulhouse in 1973, where he spent time balancing studies at the Faculté des sciences économiques et de gestion (Faculty of Economic and Management Sciences) at the University of Strasbourg; he completed an economics degree in 1974.[17] Wenger became aware of the importance and usefulness of speaking English in his studies and enrolled on a three-week language course at Cambridge.[18] After two seasons at Mulhouse, during which time he made 56 league appearances,[19] he rejoined Hild and signed for amateur club ASPV Strasbourg in 1975.[9]

In 1978, Wenger joined RC Strasbourg and made his top-flight debut against AS Monaco.[20] He made 12 appearances for the team, three in Strasbourg's championship-winning Ligue 1 (then called Division 1) season;[20] Wenger also played once in the UEFA Cup.[19] In 1981, he obtained a manager's diploma and was appointed the coach of RC Strasbourg's youth team

 

[Narong Wongwan]

I stand corrected in Wenger.
I like the professor, he made the best of what little money he was given.

 

[enterprise2]

I stand corrected in Wenger.
I like the professor, he made the best of what little money he was given.

Thats his strength ...and his weakness. He is too stubborn and dont know how to think big. Nows its too late, everyone knows he needs to spend big and they start inflating the values of the 'stars' he wants to buy. Dont know why he didn't do that to MU with RVP??

 

[freedalas]

Hey! Fergie was a top player in his day ok!
He was a top goalscorer in the scottish league and claimed that he scored a goal when his team played King Kenny's team early in the latter's career.
Of course Kenny claimed that he does not remember that.

Hi bro. You sure you got your info on Fergie as a top player back then correct or not? Read the below:




Ferguson's playing career began as an amateur with Queen's Park, where he made his debut as a striker aged 16.[13] He described his first match as a "nightmare",[14] but scored Queen's Park's goal in a 2–1 defeat against Stranraer. Perhaps his most notable game for Queen's Park was the 7–1 defeat away to Queen of the South on Boxing Day 1959 when ex-England international Ivor Broadis scored four of the Queen of the South goals. Ferguson was the solitary Queen's Park goalscorer.[15]




Despite scoring 20 goals in his 31 games for Queen's Park, he could not command a regular place in the side and moved to St. Johnstone in 1960. Although he continued to score regularly at St. Johnstone, he was still unable to command a regular place and regularly requested transfers. Ferguson was out of favour at the club and he even considered emigrating to Canada,[16] however St. Johnstone's failure to sign a forward led the manager to select Ferguson for a match against Rangers, in which he scored a hat trick in a surprise victory. Dunfermline signed him the following summer (1964), and Ferguson became a full-time professional footballer.




The following season (1964–65), Dunfermline were strong challengers for the Scottish League and reached the Scottish Cup Final, but Ferguson was dropped for the final after a poor performance in a league game against St. Johnstone. Dunfermline lost the final 3–2 to Celtic, then failed to win the League by one point. The 1965–66 season saw Ferguson notch up 45 goals in 51 games for Dunfermline. Along with Joe McBride of Celtic, he was the top goalscorer in the Scottish League with 31 goals.[17]




He then joined Rangers for £65,000, then a record fee for a transfer between two Scottish clubs. He was blamed for a goal that they conceded in the 1969 Scottish Cup Final,[18] in a match in which he was designated to mark Celtic captain, Billy McNeill, and was subsequently forced to play for the club's junior side instead of for the first team.[19] According to his brother, Ferguson was so upset by the experience that he threw his losers' medal away.[20] There have been claims that he suffered discrimination at Rangers after his marriage to a Catholic, Cathy Holding,[21] but Ferguson himself makes it clear in his autobiography[22] that Rangers knew of his wife's religion when he joined the club and that he left the club very reluctantly, due to the fall-out from his alleged cup final mistake.




The following October, Nottingham Forest wanted to sign Ferguson,[23] but his wife was not keen on moving to England at that time so he went to Falkirk instead. He was promoted to player-coach there, but when John Prentice became manager he removed Ferguson's coaching responsibilities. Ferguson responded by requesting a transfer and moved to Ayr United, where he finished his playing career in 1974.

 

[jw5]

Hi bro. You sure you got your info on Fergie as a top player back then correct or not? Read the below:

Ok lah, maybe not "top player", but he was definitely not too shebby, err, I mean shabby, in his playing days.

A little like Moyes when he was a player, Moyes used to be a defender at Preston North End and Paul Masefield (remember him?) was his team-mate at one time.

Certainly both Moyes and Fergie were better players than AVB, Jose or Brendan.

 

[jw5]

What wrong with Brendan? He is just being consistent. That's all.

He is consistently good at stating the obvious and making motherhood statements, in addition to not having won anything and being in my opinion, an over-rated football manager.

 

[I_Hate_Pappies]

Ok lah, maybe not "top player", but he was definitely not too shebby, err, I mean shabby, in his playing days.

A little like Moyes when he was a player, Moyes used to be a defender at Preston North End and Paul Masefield (remember him?) was his team-mate at one time.

Certainly both Moyes and Fergie were better players than AVB, Jose or Brendan.

He is consistently good at stating the obvious and making motherhood statements, in addition to not having won anything and being in my opinion, an over-rated football manager.

Dear Sir jw5, please try to use the multi-quote function in future if it's not too much of a hassle to you.:o Otherwise, we are still fine with you not doing so. As our forum advocates Elitism , you will not be even given a warning. Hope that we are not interrupting your postings here. :o
Our sincere apology to you. :o

 

[jw5]

What wrong with Brendan? He is just being consistent. That's all.

Dear Sir jw5, please try to use the multi-quote function in future if it's not too much of a hassle to you.:o Otherwise, we are still fine with you not doing so. As our forum advocates Elitism , you will not be even given a warning. Hope that we are not interrupting your postings here. :o
Our sincere apology to you. :o

But.....but.....but..... I was responding different things about different topics to different forummers mah...........................:o

 

[I_Hate_Pappies]

But.....but.....but..... I was responding different things about different topics to different forummers mah...........................:o

Sir, you got a point. We are very sorry about it. :(

 

[laksaboy]

Yes to call fergie an average player was an insult.
He broke the then transfer record for a Scottish player.
Nottingham Forest (a top team then) wanted him too.

Back to average players as good coaches....
Mourinho could not even cut it as a player....other examples like Arsene Wenger never even got pass the school football league.

You don't need to be a good player to be a good manager.

Some great players are terrible at managing a football team. As a result, they can only get gigs doing pundit commentary in a tv studio.


[video=youtube;uTivWl9KRqA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTivWl9KRqA[/video]

 

[freedalas]

He is consistently good at stating the obvious and making motherhood statements, in addition to not having won anything and being in my opinion, an over-rated football manager.

Agree absolutely with u. Up to now I still can't understand why Liverpool appointed him as their coach. IMHO, I feel Liverpool should have stuck with King Kenny. Could it because he unreservedly supported Suarez during the Evra espisode?

 

[jw5]

Agree absolutely with u. Up to now I still can't understand why Liverpool appointed him as their coach. IMHO, I feel Liverpool should have stuck with King Kenny. Could it because he unreservedly supported Suarez during the Evra espisode?

Did Brendan support Suarez during the Evra episode? He was still manager of Swansea then, wasn't he?

Liverfool were probably fooled into thinking that he was an up and coming young manager with innovative ideas and a desire to play "good football", from his small success at Swansea.

They failed to realise that the Swansea way of playing was started by Roberto Martinez, other up and coming young managers had either solid playing experience like Martinez or had won things like AVB, and recognizing Joe Allen as an extremely good footballer would be correct if you only considered his technical ability, and not other factors like his unwillingness to take risks and lack of vision, just to name two.

 

[KoalaJack]

kenny's 20m signing of downing, 16m of henderson and 35m of carroll did him in when things didnt go as well as the money spent. still its sad to see the King go and the way he was treated.

judgment still out on Rodgers but the way LFC was playing january onwards, there's hope.

 

[AntiPAPunk]

But.....but.....but..... I was responding different things about different topics to different forummers mah...........................:o

Later i will zap u.

 

[jw5]

Later i will zap u.

Ok man. :(