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Dr Toh Chin Chye Has Passed Away.

The way PAP operates in parliament, only the inner circle is privy to what is going on.

I called my professor and was told the S'pore decision-making model whereby only the inner circle is privy to all things sensitive and critical is aka the "Royal Court Model".
 
Re: Dr Toh Chin Chye is dead...

Nothing to be proud of when you persecute others who don't go along with your policies and then claim you are doing it for everyone's good. All they had in mind is to remain in power.
 
If I remembered correctly his daughter was adopted and has taken very good care of him. A very nice lady.

Are you referring to Othman Wok:confused:

He has 4 daughters, which one was adopted?
 
think that cock up in tnp cost the editor( r may be sub editor??) his job...think tnp also had to pay tcc six figures in damages...tcc instructed alvin yeo to act for him agst tnp...coincidentally alvin is now a pap mp...
This 'drink driving' report was made in New Paper on a Saturday, and on the same day as a report that LKY needed surgery to clear his blocked artery. Coincidence?
 
Yong Nyuk Lin is LKY's brother-in-law! The scum married the gecko's sister!
Ong Eng Guan lost to LKY by one vote for the PM position. It was Toh Chin CHye that voted against Ong and instead Toh Chin CheeBye voted for LKY!
Ong Pang Boon was an LKY crony from the very start!

From GKS to Rajaratnam to Toh Chin Cheebye and their master, dont make the mistake of forgiving these bastards of mankind. These people killed and imprisoned hundreds of dedicated and honest Singaporeans. For such educated men, it is impossible that not one of them wrote their life stories - except for their master. They all had many things to hide from their family and their fellow countrymen.

All are scums and deserve nothing good unto them.


Not Ong Eng Guan, but Lim Chin Siong who was the founding Sec Gen of the PAP.

The vote by the party committee for PM between LKY and Lim Chin Siong was at an impasse and Toh Chin Chye had to exercise his extra vote as party chairman to select LKY.

I remember Dr Toh Chin Chye as a very kind & patriotic person, and despite his big favour dished out to LKY, he was ousted by the old dog at the prime age of 58 while the old
dog stayed on till 88 to rake in $billions!
 
er...who exactly did they "kill"????...

Yong Nyuk Lin is LKY's brother-in-law! The scum married the gecko's sister!
Ong Eng Guan lost to LKY by one vote for the PM position. It was Toh Chin CHye that voted against Ong and instead Toh Chin CheeBye voted for LKY!
Ong Pang Boon was an LKY crony from the very start!

From GKS to Rajaratnam to Toh Chin Cheebye and their master, dont make the mistake of forgiving these bastards of mankind. These people killed and imprisoned hundreds of dedicated and honest Singaporeans. For such educated men, it is impossible that not one of them wrote their life stories - except for their master. They all had many things to hide from their family and their fellow countrymen.

All are scums and deserve nothing good unto them.
 
Old dog must be feeling real bad for what he had done to Dr Toh Chin Chye and hence offering the gun carriage for Dr Toh's funeral.
 
how cld lim chin siong become pm when he did not run in the 59 GE??...
Not Ong Eng Guan, but Lim Chin Siong who was the founding Sec Gen of the PAP.

The vote by the party committee for PM between LKY and Lim Chin Siong was at an impasse and Toh Chin Chye had to exercise his extra vote as party chairman to select LKY.

I remember Dr Toh Chin Chye as a very kind & patriotic person, and despite his big favour dished out to LKY, he was ousted by the old dog at the prime age of 58 while the old
dog stayed on till 88 to rake in $billions!
 
Are you referring to Othman Wok:confused:

He has 4 daughters, which one was adopted?

I live near Othman Wok and he looks friendly enough whenever he is outside his house. Always wanted to speak with him but never dared try. Perhaps I really should before he joins his comrades in the Big Parliament in the Sky....
 
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Bros , what is the significanance of it ie : put on the ceremonial gun carriage ??? :(




PAP founding chairman Toh Chin Chye dies
Ex-DPM Toh Chin Chye succumbs to failing health at age 90


By Li Xueying
For much of independent Singapore's history, Dr Toh Chin Chye captured Singaporeans' imagination as a pugnacious fighter - one who struggled for Singapore's independence, manoeuvred against the communists and, later, criticised the People's Action Party (PAP) that he helped found.

On Friday, the old political warrior breathed his last at 9.30am.

The founding chairman of the PAP and former deputy prime minister died at his home in Hillcrest Estate.

He was 90. He is survived by his son-in-law Johnny Ng Kim Kiat, 41, a property developer, and four grandchildren aged four to 15. They live next door to Dr Toh Chin Chye, who lived alone, aided by a maid.

Dr Toh Chin Chye's wife Florence Yeap died in 2004 at the age of 77. Their only child Toh Ai Chu, who was adopted, died three years ago of breast cancer at the age of 41.

It was then that Dr Toh Chin Chye's health started faltering, said those close to him. But he derived comfort from spending time with his grandchildren.

At the wake last night, his eldest grandson Matthew, 15, said that Dr Toh Chin Chye was always concerned about the teenager's studies. 'He would always tell me, 'Stop playing, learn your spelling'.'

Dr Toh Chin Chye's wake is open to the public, who can pay their respects at 23, Greenview Crescent.

In accordance with his wishes, he will have a private funeral. It will be held at Mandai Crematorium next Tuesday. The Government is helping the family with the funeral arrangements.




As a mark of respect to one of Singapore's founding fathers, Dr Toh Chin Chye will be accorded the honour of being borne on the ceremonial gun carriage to the crematorium.



In addition, the state flag on all government buildings will be flown at half-mast on the day of the funeral.


On Friday, Dr Toh Chin Chye's former comrade-in-arms and sometime opponent, Mr Lee Kuan Yew, paid tribute to him - 'a historic figure in our fight for justice and independence'.

In a statement, Singapore's first prime minister wrote: 'I will confine myself to my recollection of him as a man of strong character.

'He was a redoubtable fighter for equality for all peoples, regardless of race, language or religion. He was tenacious in his beliefs. Once his honour is challenged, he was like a bulldog never letting go of the offender.'

Friends and former colleagues turned up in a steady stream at his home on Friday.

Leaders pay tribute to Dr Toh Chin Chye's contributions

There were high-level visitors, including President Tony Tan Keng Yam, Deputy Prime Minister Teo Chee Hean and former foreign minister George Yeo.

There were also his loyal grassroots leaders from Rochor, where he was MP for 29 years from 1959 to 1988, when he retired from politics.

Born in Taiping, Malaysia, the son of a bicycle shop owner came to Singapore in 1939 after he was awarded a scholarship to Raffles College.

He later studied physiology in London, where he took over the reins of Malayan independence group Malayan Forum from Dr Goh Keng Swee.

On his return, he pushed for the 'basement crowd' - a group of anti-colonials who gathered at Mr Lee's home basement in Oxley Road - to be registered as a political party.

'Why don't we start a political circle? We can call it the Action Party,' he recounted in an interview for the book Leaders Of Singapore.

Thus the PAP was born, and Dr Toh Chin Chye became its founding chairman.

Tough and politically astute, he fought off its enemies, riding roughshod over leftist trade union activists and keeping a tight rein on the party branches.

According to the book Lee's Lieutenants, Dr Toh Chin Chye's name was even floated as an alternative to Mr Lee as prime minister on two occasions. Mr Lee had offered to resign after the PAP lost the 1961 by-election in Anson and in 1964 after the race riots, but this was rejected by the central executive committee.

But as the PAP consolidated its power, and attention turned to Singapore's development, Dr Toh Chin Chye - who served stints as deputy prime minister, health minister and science and technology minister - found himself sidelined in favour of technocrats.

In 1981, he was dropped from the Cabinet, much to his dismay.

As a backbencher, he clashed with his own party on - among other issues - the pace of its leadership renewal, the Medisave scheme and the elected presidency.

Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong remembers one of those occasions: The 1985 Budget debate, during which Dr Toh Chin Chye passionately criticised the Central Provident Fund (CPF) contribution - then 50 per cent of wages - as a heavy imposition on employers.

PM Lee said in a condolence letter to Mr Ng: 'I had just entered politics, and as a minister of state in the Ministry of Trade and Industry, I stood up and rebutted him vigorously.

'But as it turned out, Dr Toh was right. The economy soon went into a steep recession, and by the end of the year, the Government had concluded the CPF rates were too high and indeed needed to be cut.'

There were other times when Dr Toh Chin Chye's work was less controversial.

President Tan noted that Dr Toh Chin Chye was assigned to helm a committee to design a new flag for Singapore in 1959.

That year, the red-and-white flag replaced the Union Jack, which had flown over Singapore for 140 years since 1819. On Singapore's independence in 1965, it was adopted as Singapore's national flag.

President Tan said: 'He has left lasting contributions to Singapore, and all of us will miss him and the role that he played in the political development and progress of Singapore, to bring Singapore to what it is today.

'Singapore has lost a great man.'
 
Hokkien said "Up Lorry " but with



"ceremonial gun carriage" means Up what leh ??? :confused:
 
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Bros , what is the significanance of it ie : put on the ceremonial gun carriage ??? :(




PAP founding chairman Toh Chin Chye dies
Ex-DPM Toh Chin Chye succumbs to failing health at age 90


By Li Xueying
For much of independent Singapore's history, Dr Toh Chin Chye captured Singaporeans' imagination as a pugnacious fighter - one who struggled for Singapore's independence, manoeuvred against the communists and, later, criticised the People's Action Party (PAP) that he helped found.

On Friday, the old political warrior breathed his last at 9.30am.

The founding chairman of the PAP and former deputy prime minister died at his home in Hillcrest Estate.

He was 90. He is survived by his son-in-law Johnny Ng Kim Kiat, 41, a property developer, and four grandchildren aged four to 15. They live next door to Dr Toh Chin Chye, who lived alone, aided by a maid.

Dr Toh Chin Chye's wife Florence Yeap died in 2004 at the age of 77. Their only child Toh Ai Chu, who was adopted, died three years ago of breast cancer at the age of 41.

It was then that Dr Toh Chin Chye's health started faltering, said those close to him. But he derived comfort from spending time with his grandchildren.

At the wake last night, his eldest grandson Matthew, 15, said that Dr Toh Chin Chye was always concerned about the teenager's studies. 'He would always tell me, 'Stop playing, learn your spelling'.'


Dr Toh Chin Chye's wake is open to the public, who can pay their respects at 23, Greenview Crescent.


Dr Toh's house which he bought it for $65,000 from Town & City, a property development company owned by the late Tan Sri Khoo Teck Puat.
 
actually i dont think so...harry's v short brief public letter of condolence speaks volumes i sld say...the half mast flag n gun carriage is just to placate the public...becuz old lady lee also got a gun carriage funneral n she was just a private citizen...

tbh tcc was a light weight intellectual compared to harry, gks, raja, kenny byrne, devan nair etc...he appears to be hv been an average minister at best n there may be gd reason for him being labelled "short man"...

however i shall say this much for tcc...he was a v capable n indefatigable political party leader who had great guts to hold up pap when its chips were down during the barisan split in the early 60s, when even harry appeared to be getting cold feet...a man who truly believed in a malaysia for all malaysians regardless of race...he also helped to hold up the cabinet/govt after s'pore was kicked out of malayasia in 65 when harry appeared to be depressed fatigued n a cry baby...in addition tcc was aincorruptible n not a greedy man...

rip
Old dog must be feeling real bad for what he had done to Dr Toh Chin Chye and hence offering the gun carriage for Dr Toh's funeral.
 
Dr Toh's house which he bought it for $65,000 from Town & City, a property development company owned by the late Tan Sri Khoo Teck Puat.





from news and reports he seems a very simple man .

simple tastes .. Not likely to find 2,000 pairs of


branded shoes in his house types ... Rest In Peace . :(
 
why dont u go for it...othman's a nice chap...also quite the buaya...
I live near Othman Wok and he looks friendly enough whenever he is outside his house. Always wanted to speak with him but never dared try. Perhaps I really should before he joins his comrades in the Big Parliament in the Sky....
 
exactly so how cld LCS become PM??...

tks but i too am aware that LCS co-founded pap together wif harry n gang in 54...
He cud'nt stand for election cos he was in Changi.

Lim Chin Siong co-founded the People's Action Party (PAP) in 1954 with Lee Kuan Yew .
 
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In pictures: Remembering Toh Chin Chye, 1921 - 2012

Published on Feb 4, 2012

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Then PAP candidate for Rochore constituency, Dr Toh Chin Chye addresses residents of Kampong Kapor area. -- ST PHOTO: HAIRISThe founding chairman of the PAP and former deputy prime minister Dr Toh Chin Chye died at his home in Hillcrest Estate on Friday. He was 90.

A prominent member of Singapore's first generation of leaders, Dr Toh Chin Chye co-founded the People's Action Party (PAP) in 1954 and was its first chairman - a role in which he won respect from many PAP cadres for his firm opposition to the pro-communists within the party.
 
tks but i am also aware that LCS was released along wif devan nair n the other big 6 in 59...


After the PAP swept into power in 1959, Lim Chin Siong was released from detention.

no idea becuz i do not c how he cld legitimately become PM in the first place when he did not even run in the 59 GE in the first place...unless a by-election was in the offing???

If he couldn't become PM, why was there a vote between him and LKY?
 
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