CST's Wife Falling into 154th's Trap!

[Chau Ve Nist]

Dear Chau But you have to look at those four figures and the others who were willing to die for the cause but never mind I will look up and give you references about those who were willing to die :_)) as a form of public protest.

Locke

Since when did those four want to die???? Since they declared that

"We are on hunger strike. We protest, we appeal, we repent. We are not in search of death; we are looking for real life." ???​

Which part of their Hunger Strike declaration did you not understand???

No point looking up "references" about those who are willing to die. I can do that myself and in fact, I have a whole lot of references about people who are willing to die. That does not change the fact that a willingness to die is not a criteria by which a hunger strike is to be judged genuine or fake.

The simple point that needs to get into your thick head is that a willingness to die is not a determinant of the validity, authenticity or success of a hunger strike.

 

[lockeliberal]

Dear Chau

Perhaps its just me but what is a serious journal and what is a series albeit good magazine is quite clear. The fact that NUS classifies it as a journal does not make it automatically deserving of that title.

Ramseth its not about dying or even coming close to death but we would not be having this debate if he had claimed he had fasted in protest as it is he had staged a hunger strike and claimed he was a hunger striker ......thus he opens himself up to scrutiny as to intent and to dedication to the cause and or sincerity in sustaining the cause.

Of course Chau claims the only goal is publicity and no one has to die or errr even put one's life at risk but that "partial or wannabe hunger strike" position does not seem to gel well with the position of those who have gone all the way and suffered in a hunger strike.



Locke

 

[lockeliberal]

Dear Chau

Willingness to die or even willingness to hurt one self, thats part and parcel of the process. You put yourself and or your health at risk but it does not have to end in death but I have serious doubts as to glucose chee's intent for both



Locke

 

[lockeliberal]

Dear Ramseth

Finally Chau loves to find the smallest point which agree's with his statement and make broad sweep statements about them whilst not acknowledging the obvious

Even in Tianamen Square Incident, he comes up with four people who have declared that they will not hunger strike themselves to death but will join the hunger strike for a couple of days, ignoring the hunger strikers or number's of hunger strikers in Tianamen who are in fact willing to die for their cause.

Who is the major player then and who is the minor player in the Hunger Strike Act ? Any why does Chau play up the role of the minor players

BTw Chee's problem is that he is the lead star and minor actor all rolled into one, no minor supporting roles available.


Locke

 

[Chau Ve Nist]

Dear Chau

Perhaps its just me but what is a serious journal and what is a series albeit good magazine is quite clear. The fact that NUS classifies it as a journal does not make it automatically deserving of that title. Locke

It is you. LSE classifies this as a journal as well:

https://catalogue.lse.ac.uk/Search/Home?lookfor=Index on censorship&submit=Find

Index on censorship
Classmark: PN4701
Located: Main Collection - Periodical
Available
Journal ​

I hope you don't come up with more crap that your alma mater is wrong about classifying this "magazine" as a journal or come up with some other non-related nonsense again.

Otherwise, I have to nominate you for, not one, but two Nobel Peace Prizes.

 

[Ramseth]

Locke and Chau, please humour and educate me a little, at your pleasure.

What's the difference between a journal and a magazine.

What I understand is that a journal was supposed to mean daily records and a magazine was supposed to mean variety records.

 

[Chau Ve Nist]

Dear Chau

Willingness to die or even willingness to hurt one self, thats part and parcel of the process. You put yourself and or your health at risk but it does not have to end in death but I have serious doubts as to glucose chee's intent for both

Locke

Look, you can continue to argue on whatever points you actually think you can score on till your face turns blue and your balls turn black.

The fact remains that the world and rules of hunger strikers will not change on accounts of your ignorance, your stubborness and on account of you just being plain childish and silly simply because the hunger striker in question is one Chee Soon Juan that you hate.

It's Friday night and I am off to the pub soon with a few friends to carry out a 4-hour hunger strike on a few bottles of beer. My name is not Chee Soon Juan and there's no glucose in beer so I hope it meets your criteria of a hunger strike.

 

[Chau Ve Nist]

Locke and Chau, please humour and educate me a little, at your pleasure.

What's the difference between a journal and a magazine.

What I understand is that a journal was supposed to mean daily records and a magazine was supposed to mean variety records.

Journals are generally regarded as "heavyweight" "academic" and "intellectual" in nature and therefore authoritative. The articles are topical and specific to the journal. So something like "Index on Censorship" or Newsweek, Time magazine (even though they are called magazines) will be considered journals as they carry serious, "heavyweight" and "topical" articles.

A magazine, OTOH, usually carries varied and "lightweight" articles. It may have an article on censorship, another on tours, housing, etc all in one particular magazine.

Journals are also also better researched, longer and are usually referenced unlike articles that you find in newspapers or magazines. The pinnacle or "top journal" are "peer-reviewed" journals. This is where your fellow professionals will assess your article before it is allowed to be published.

 

[Ramseth]

Thanks Chau. Anyway, I can't really take them seriously, journals or magazines. They're good for pastimes and varities. For seriousness, I rely on my brains. And my brains fail me, I only have myself to blame.

 

[Chau Ve Nist]

Who is the major player then and who is the minor player in the Hunger Strike Act ? Any why does Chau play up the role of the minor players

BTw Chee's problem is that he is the lead star and minor actor all rolled into one, no minor supporting roles available.

Locke

First you say it was the number of days that determine the validity of a hunger strike. Next the number of strikers involved to determine whether it is a "fast" or a "hunger strike".

Then...sorry... I lost track of all the goalposts you shifted and the rubbish you posted each time your weak arguments were shown up.

Now, you say it is "minor" and "major" player that determines the authenticity of a hunger strike.

No wonder you are a Nobel Prize winner.

 

[cleareyes]

MY, you are as daft as you are stubborn. This is the problem when you are known to your group of colleagues and party members in a forum where you and they participate in.

It ends up with you having to fight tooth and nail even though your face has been grounded in sand and plastered in shit and you have been shown up to be loud but hollow and empty.

So you are saying is that if you are an unknown and people dont know who you are, then you can put up irresponsible nonsence and crap through your nose?

Wow..................................Now I can see how freedom of expression is so easily abused.

 

[Chau Ve Nist]

So you are saying is that if you are an unknown and people dont know who you are, then you can put up irresponsible nonsence and crap through your nose?

The "irresponsible nonsencne(sic)' and "crap through your nose" rubbish comes from people like lockeliberal and you who put up nonsense and purvey falsehoods simply because of the person involved (CSJ) and not because of what the truth should be. In fact, not only do you all put up nonsense, you try to reinvent the world of hungry strikers just because one CSJ from Singapore carried out a hunger strike 17 years ago and you do not like this CSJ.

Wow..................................Now I can see how freedom of expression is so easily abused.

Pretty ironic and hypocritical for you to say that considering that you have been spewing nonsense and purveying falsehoods, misinformed and poorly considered views about hunger strikes just because you dislike CSJ.

With all the nonsense and falsehoods you all were spewing about hungry strikes just because of your dislike of CSJ, I actually thought you and your gang were highly respected journalists from the most prestigious and number one media in the world, The Straits Times.

At an appropriate time, I will reveal why Chee Soon Juan is so disliked and hated by the PAP and PEP politicians and their supporters. Akan datang....

 

[cleareyes]

At an appropriate time, I will reveal why Chee Soon Juan is so disliked and hated by the PAP and PEP politicians and their supporters. Akan datang....

Where have I heard that before???????

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

 

[elephanto]

Where have I heard that before???????
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Chau Ve Nist = Chee Soon Juan !!!!

 

[ChaoPappyPoodle]

Where have I heard that before???????

hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

The 154th tainting of CSJ is akin to their remarkly successful hero worship of anything PAP. Take TT Durai as an example. The 154th painted him as a WORLDWIDE hero for kidney research and care and this was of course successful.

CSJ is a victim of garment propaganda. If you cannot see this then it is pointless to debate with you. A blind person cannot see but can still hear and touch. An ignorant lying fool is totally devoid of the truth.

You sir are an ignorant lying fool! :oIo:

 

[kingrant]

Looks like the lettuce is giving you much discomfort and returning you all the brickbats you so deserved. I'm calling it abuse but it doesnt mean I felt it. I'm immune to verbal bullies like you.

Btw, I dont hate CSJ nor do I like him. I only disagree with you that hunger strikers do not put their lives at risk. In fact, it's because they do, that's why thye are taken seriously. if they dont, nobody will care - definitely not me. Whether he is a Nobel winner or not, it makes no diff. Even my runner sees that.

I'm glad that you are grateful for my patriotism and now see that I am a good man.

I know. The lettuce you are taking me on with is causing me tremendous pain.

By the way and on serious note, I hope you don't feel abused. I am merely trying to teach those like lockeliberal who are very humble and open to learning that they should not spout rubbish and falsehoods just because they hate a person.

CSJ is CSJ. A hunger strike is a hunger strike. The world of hunger strikes cannot be changed just for you - not unless you are a Nobel Peace Prize winner - just because you hate one Chee Soon Juan.

Cheers Bro. I know Singapore is safe from the Malaysians because of patriotic soldiers like you. You are a good man.

 

[kingrant]

Exactly, what sort of argument is this? How do these statements support yr argument that hunger strikes can be faked?

You are still whining from that infraction I "awarded" you for yr kind abuse. A newbie is a newbie. Even my runner doesnt whine about his infractions.

You can't take on a newbie like me, how in the fucking world are you going to take on the Malaysians and invade Johore and zip and zap every enemy on sight? With your infraction machine gun?

I expect better from someone like you who claims that he has conducted Bridgade level planning. Look like the poster who suspected that you were nothing more than a boastful little CO's runner was right after all.

 

[kingrant]

Spot on. He used 4 exceptions to prove the rule, when there were many many others who were prepared to go all the way. It wld not be fair if those majority were treated as phoneys.

And then our dear Einstein/Hawkings wannabe used what the 4 did as THE DEFACTO definition of hunger strike.

I am not belittling CSJ but I'd rather he and his supporters called it a fast and not a hunger strike, which shld be reserved for those suicidal protesters who wish to become martyrs. Certainly not Chau. A Muslim fasts but after that, he eats like a horse.

Dear Ramseth

Finally Chau loves to find the smallest point which agree's with his statement and make broad sweep statements about them whilst not acknowledging the obvious

Even in Tianamen Square Incident, he comes up with four people who have declared that they will not hunger strike themselves to death but will join the hunger strike for a couple of days, ignoring the hunger strikers or number's of hunger strikers in Tianamen who are in fact willing to die for their cause.

Who is the major player then and who is the minor player in the Hunger Strike Act ? Any why does Chau play up the role of the minor players

BTw Chee's problem is that he is the lead star and minor actor all rolled into one, no minor supporting roles available.


Locke

 

[kingrant]

Locke,

He sure can twist and turn like a worm. On the contrary, I thot you were quite consistent.

First you say it was the number of days that determine the validity of a hunger strike. Next the number of strikers involved to determine whether it is a "fast" or a "hunger strike".

Then...sorry... I lost track of all the goalposts you shifted and the rubbish you posted each time your weak arguments were shown up.

Now, you say it is "minor" and "major" player that determines the authenticity of a hunger strike.

No wonder you are a Nobel Prize winner.

 

[Chau Ve Nist]

Looks like the lettuce is giving you much discomfort and returning you all the brickbats you so deserved. I'm calling it abuse but it doesnt mean I felt it. I'm immune to verbal bullies like you.

Not only lettuce but very wet and very limp ones. They are the most powerful torture tools deployed in the Internet world especially when they are wielded by 4 Singaporean Nobel Laureates.

Btw, I dont hate CSJ nor do I like him. I only disagree with you that hunger strikers do not put their lives at risk. In fact, it's because they do, that's why thye are taken seriously. if they dont, nobody will care - definitely not me.

Hunger strikers are not out there to carry out strikes for you or to fulfill your fellow Nobel Prize winners (in waiting) naive, misguided and ill-informed views about hunger strikes.

BTW, I may have some good news from the Nobel Prize committee soon. Stay tune.