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Serious Oppie Chee Gets POFMA-ed For Lying About HDB Flats! Why Are Oppies Such Liars?

JohnTan

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SINGAPORE - Minister for National Development Desmond Lee has instructed the fake news office here to issue a correction direction to Singapore Democratic Party (SDP) secretary-general Chee Soon Juan over his social media statements on public housing policies.

In a video that was put up on his Facebook, Instagram and TikTok accounts on Feb 17, Dr Chee claimed that the Government has rejected the idea of building flats that can accommodate multi-generational living.

“This claim is false,” said government fact-checking website Factually,
noting that HDB builds and offers five-room and 3Gen flats to cater to the housing needs of larger families and multi-generation families who wish to live together.

In particular, 3Gen flats have been introduced since 2013 to allow multi-generation families to live together. Such flats are generally larger at about 115 sq m, with an extra bedroom compared with the typical five-room BTO flat.

The statement said that five-room flats were offered in all Build-To-Order (BTO) launches in 2023, and 3Gen flats were offered in two of the four launches.

The Ministry of National Development (MND) said in a statement on Feb 22 that Dr Chee will be required to carry correction notices on his Instagram and Facebook accounts, and to create a new TikTok post containing a correction notice.

Under the correction direction by the Protection from Online Falsehoods and Manipulation Act (Pofma) Office, the notices will have to state that the video posted on Feb 17 contains a false statement of fact, and provide a link to the Government’s clarification to allow viewers to consider both versions and draw their own conclusions.

Mr Lee also issued a targeted correction direction to TikTok about these posts. TikTok will be required to communicate a correction notice to all end users in Singapore who had accessed the TikTok post.

According to Factually, Dr Chee referred to a reply by the Housing Board to a forum letter published in The Straits Times from a member of the public to support his claim.

Contrary to Dr Chee’s claim, the Government did not reject the suggestion from the forum letter writer to have bigger flats available for multi-generational living, said Factually.

“In planning the supply of new BTO flats, HDB adopts a comprehensive approach, considering factors such as the prevailing economic and housing market conditions, and long-term demographic and socio-economic trends,” it said.

It added that HDB offers a wide range of different flat types in various locations to meet demand, including from larger families and multi-generational families. The agency also calibrates BTO supply and flat types to cater to the housing needs and budgets of households in Singapore.

Factually said Dr Chee had quoted from HDB’s forum reply dated Jan 2, 2023, in his video, but he did not include the board’s reply on the larger flat types offered to accommodate multi-generational living.

The forum reply from HDB said it offered a wide range of flats, from two-room flexi flats to three-generation flats, in various locations to cater to the different housing needs and budgets of first-timer families, second-timer families, the elderly and singles.

“Nevertheless, HDB continues to build five-room and three-generation flats to meet the needs of larger families and multi-generation families who wish to live together,” said HDB.

The Factually article can be found at https://www.gov.sg/article/factually220224

https://www.straitstimes.com/singap...ued-pofma-order-over-comments-on-hdb-policies
 

bigozt

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The problem is bigger here. It is Mad Dog Chee. Only mad oppies who endorse Taiwan style fist fights in Parleement support him.
 

eatshitndie

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he’s really out of touch. i’ve visited hdb homes in sengkang where 3 generations live in them. usually a couple with kids and a maid who takes care of a widowed parent. he should instead visit some of the older estates where elderlies are left to rot alone in larger hdb flats. many bodies to uncover.
 

red amoeba

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typical guerilla warfare by oppos - Chee, Mun Wai, Jeraya....post anything, the more sensational it is, the better it is. Wait for POFMA to be slapped, wait till 2359 issue correction notice. Live to fight another day. Rinse and repeat.

i urge the PAP to pass a stronger law to effectively muzzle such noises of dissent. For example, ban them for posting anything for one year on social media etc. Then these oppos will come out and say, their accounts got hacked.
 

k1976

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he’s really out of touch. i’ve visited hdb homes in sengkang where 3 generations live in them. usually a couple with kids and a maid who takes care of a widowed parent. he should instead visit some of the older estates where elderlies are left to rot alone in larger hdb flats. many bodies to uncover.
He kind of busy with FnB business empire building like Boss John, his dotter also study overseas as well
 

syed putra

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I just read 1 in 8 homes in Japan are vacant or abandoned. There is a program currently to get these homes occupied. Use your cpf money and buy Japanese homes and citizenship m
 

eatshitndie

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He kind of busy with FnB business empire building like Boss John, his dotter also study overseas as well
one of sinkies’ current pressing issue is old folks dying at home alone which means too many sinkies are well housed with too much idle space. he’s now too atas and towkayish to truly care for sinkies’ real plight.
 

bobby

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Instead of just claiming it as falsehood why donch the gahmen refute what is said with facts and figures instead of just taking the easy route.

After all they are paid $m for doing their difficult jobs.
 

Hightech88

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SINGAPORE - Minister for National Development Desmond Lee has instructed the fake news office here to issue a correction direction to Singapore Democratic Party (SDP) secretary-general Chee Soon Juan over his social media statements on public housing policies.

In a video that was put up on his Facebook, Instagram and TikTok accounts on Feb 17, Dr Chee claimed that the Government has rejected the idea of building flats that can accommodate multi-generational living.

“This claim is false,” said government fact-checking website Factually,
noting that HDB builds and offers five-room and 3Gen flats to cater to the housing needs of larger families and multi-generation families who wish to live together.

In particular, 3Gen flats have been introduced since 2013 to allow multi-generation families to live together. Such flats are generally larger at about 115 sq m, with an extra bedroom compared with the typical five-room BTO flat.

The statement said that five-room flats were offered in all Build-To-Order (BTO) launches in 2023, and 3Gen flats were offered in two of the four launches.

The Ministry of National Development (MND) said in a statement on Feb 22 that Dr Chee will be required to carry correction notices on his Instagram and Facebook accounts, and to create a new TikTok post containing a correction notice.

Under the correction direction by the Protection from Online Falsehoods and Manipulation Act (Pofma) Office, the notices will have to state that the video posted on Feb 17 contains a false statement of fact, and provide a link to the Government’s clarification to allow viewers to consider both versions and draw their own conclusions.

Mr Lee also issued a targeted correction direction to TikTok about these posts. TikTok will be required to communicate a correction notice to all end users in Singapore who had accessed the TikTok post.

According to Factually, Dr Chee referred to a reply by the Housing Board to a forum letter published in The Straits Times from a member of the public to support his claim.

Contrary to Dr Chee’s claim, the Government did not reject the suggestion from the forum letter writer to have bigger flats available for multi-generational living, said Factually.

“In planning the supply of new BTO flats, HDB adopts a comprehensive approach, considering factors such as the prevailing economic and housing market conditions, and long-term demographic and socio-economic trends,” it said.

It added that HDB offers a wide range of different flat types in various locations to meet demand, including from larger families and multi-generational families. The agency also calibrates BTO supply and flat types to cater to the housing needs and budgets of households in Singapore.

Factually said Dr Chee had quoted from HDB’s forum reply dated Jan 2, 2023, in his video, but he did not include the board’s reply on the larger flat types offered to accommodate multi-generational living.

The forum reply from HDB said it offered a wide range of flats, from two-room flexi flats to three-generation flats, in various locations to cater to the different housing needs and budgets of first-timer families, second-timer families, the elderly and singles.

“Nevertheless, HDB continues to build five-room and three-generation flats to meet the needs of larger families and multi-generation families who wish to live together,” said HDB.

The Factually article can be found at https://www.gov.sg/article/factually220224

https://www.straitstimes.com/singap...ued-pofma-order-over-comments-on-hdb-policies

Nothing surprising, many things will always happen to Opposition party members just before the next GE:

1) Get excited and salivating from resident's complains, then fall into the trap of making these unsubstantiated claims in their social media posts without doing due diligence and tio POFMA.

2) Get themselves into trouble with the law after tio fixed by PAP.

3) Bicker among themselves and self-pwn each other with various quarrels, scandals e.g. members sexpose unhappiness about their party leadership in public and resign to join another party etc. which essentially creates a bad impression that opposition parties are very disunited, messy and unreliable.

4) Recruit controversial or mediocre members into their party, especially to run as suicide squad against the stronger PAP GRCs.

5) Saddest part is, all the real talented opposition members who initially wanted to join the opposition parties, suddenly switch camps to join the PAP instead, lured by the lucrative rewards under the pretense of trying to change the party from within, LOL.

So it's little wonder why citizens will always vote PAP into power GE after GE.

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k1976

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I just read 1 in 8 homes in Japan are vacant or abandoned. There is a program currently to get these homes occupied. Use your cpf money and buy Japanese homes and citizenship m
Yeah, each house only need 20-30k usd, excluding renovation cost
 

k1976

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But SG has good world class BTO for protecting your wealth , tiagong Empreor Xi want to copy n paste in China, to resolve Tiongkok Property Crisis
 

millim6868

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Chee is not wrong as he mention earlier then papigs will wait for few years then still oppositions ideas n plan, lol, only useless party still ideas n plan like papigs
 

k1976

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Nothing surprising, many things will always happen to Opposition party members just before the next GE:

1) Get excited and salivating from resident's complains, then fall into the trap of making these unsubstantiated claims in their social media posts without doing due diligence and tio POFMA.

2) Get themselves into trouble with the law after tio fixed by PAP.

3) Bicker among themselves and self-pwn each other with various quarrels, scandals e.g. members sexpose unhappiness about their party leadership in public and resign to join another party etc. which essentially creates a bad impression that opposition parties are very disunited, messy and unreliable.

4) Recruit controversial or mediocre members into their party, especially to run as suicide squad against the stronger PAP GRCs.

5) Saddest part is, all the real talented opposition members who initially wanted to join the opposition parties, suddenly switch camps to join the PAP instead, lured by the lucrative rewards under the pretense of trying to change the party from within, LOL.

So it's little wonder why citizens will always vote PAP into power GE after GE.

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Because from Ah Gong to Good Hans, results is always delivered successfully de woh...60yrs of sterling record.
 

laksaboy

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POFMA is used for only one thing: to crush dissent and wrongthink.

I have told you this back when they were 'debating' in Parleement prior to rubberstamping POFMA into law. :wink:
 

oliverlee

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elections are coming. trying to muzzle all those who threaten their existence. A cheebai is a cheebai is a cheebai that cannot change its white uniform
 
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