Crumbling of Singapore?

[TracyTan866]

Goh Chok Tong had in trying to justifying a pay rise for ministers in 1993 said: "If we don't not pay ministers adequately, we will get inadequate ministers. If you pay peanuts, you will get get monkeys for your ministers. The people will suffer, not the monkeys."

Well, after 20 years of continuous pay increases, we are getting monkeys as our ministers isn't it. And we are getting inadequate ministers. The only truth in GCT's statement is that the people are indeed suffering, but not the monkeys (ministers). Without any effort, one can easily rattle a number of monkeys that came our way - Mah BT, Wong KS, Lim SS, Lim BH, Khaw BW, Josephine Teo. At least the real monkeys at circuses are entertaining and they are literally paid only in peanuts.

The pap selection process is fatally flawed. They select self serving yes-men..

 

[TracyTan866]

The fact that Ee keep on using the word sacrifice when reviewing the ministers salary is sickening.When serving the country is seen in terms of monetary sacrifice and not service to the people, than everything is simply wrong.

The timing as usual should be seen in perspective eg
-issuing of parade boots when a certain person's son joined NS
-relaxation of mother tongue requirement when some people grandkids cannot make the grade
-removal of estate duty when somebody's wife becoming sickly
and now change in ministers salary only when a person retires from the cabinet.

Yet these people dare to claim this is meritocracy when everything evolves around a person and his family?

It's as good as North Korea calling itself Democratic People's Republic of Korea -as we all know its neither democratic and accountable to the people.

PAP leaders must not keep harping that they sacrifice to serve Singapore. They must get rid of that mentality. it is helpful that they see themselves realistically as how Singaporeans see them

 

[TracyTan866]

The fact that Ee keep on using the word sacrifice when reviewing the ministers salary is sickening.When serving the country is seen in terms of monetary sacrifice and not service to the people, than everything is simply wrong.

The timing as usual should be seen in perspective eg
-issuing of parade boots when a certain person's son joined NS
-relaxation of mother tongue requirement when some people grandkids cannot make the grade
-removal of estate duty when somebody's wife becoming sickly
and now change in ministers salary only when a person retires from the cabinet.

Yet these people dare to claim this is meritocracy when everything evolves around a person and his family?

It's as good as North Korea calling itself Democratic People's Republic of Korea -as we all know its neither democratic and accountable to the people.

The recent Ministerial salaries revision has caused more derision against the pap. It spells bad news for the pap. It has alienated tha pap further from Singaporeans. This will return to haunt the pap at the next election.

The SG media are not doing the pap a favour by not reporting the true ground sentiments towards the proposed revision.

 

[aurvandil]

Over the course of 2011, there has been a very dramatic shift in the perception of Singaporeans toward the PAP. The PAP have gone from economic miracle workers who deserve millons to overpaid self serving politicans that consistently fail to deliver.

From the reaction of the pay review, this view seems to be evolving to become the mainsteam view as opposed to a minority view.

 

[TracyTan866]

Over the course of 2011, there has been a very dramatic shift in the perception of Singaporeans toward the PAP. The PAP have gone from economic miracle workers who deserve millons to overpaid self serving politicans that consistently fail to deliver.

From the reaction of the pay review, this view seems to be evolving to become the mainsteam view as opposed to a minority view.

What you said is very true. Many Singaporeans are seeing through the pap's lies. Once trust is betrayed, it is very difficult for the pap to regain Singaporeans' support.

What the pap tries to do to rectify the situation is returned with scorn

 

[GoldenDragon]

The pap selection process is fatally flawed. They select self serving yes-men..

Yes, you are right. They do so to protect or better still, enhance the status quo. Why allow someone to rock the boat from the inside?

 

[GoldenDragon]

PAP leaders must not keep harping that they sacrifice to serve Singapore. They must get rid of that mentality. it is helpful that they see themselves realistically as how Singaporeans see them

Push and pull factors needed. PAP pushing themselves voluntarily from the populace. A few more CSMs, Pritams, SLs, LTKs will be the 'pull' factors needed to annihilate the demons.

 

[zhihau]

Push and pull factors needed. PAP pushing themselves voluntarily from the populace

i've never underestimated the powers of sycophants

 

[TracyTan866]

Yes, you are right. They do so to protect or better still, enhance the status quo. Why allow someone to rock the boat from the inside?

Surrounding themselves with such people are self-focused and inbreeding. These kind of self-serving political leaders will cause SG to crumble.

I regret to say that I see the pap leaders are such people and I worry for SG if we dont change them

 

[TracyTan866]

Push and pull factors needed. PAP pushing themselves voluntarily from the populace. A few more CSMs, Pritams, SLs, LTKs will be the 'pull' factors needed to annihilate the demons.

Very true...that is the supply side.

On demand side, Singaporeans must demand righteous leaders who are altruistic to serve SG, not just people who have good grades...But problem is such people will not want to work with PAP and LKY's style of leadership. Such altruistic leaders have courage and an independent mind and will not be cowed by autocratic and unreasonable leaders. How many pap leaders are altruistic and really care for SG rather than enriching themselves? So Singaporeans have to look beyond the pap for such courageous leaders as the pap has shown that it is unable to attract and recruit such people

 

[TracyTan866]

i've never underestimated the powers of sycophants

True, they wield tremendous power because the system rewards and surrounds them with like minded sycophants

 

[TracyTan866]

i've never underestimated the powers of sycophants

The pap's obession with making huge profits has compelled it to put in place CEOs who are willing to meet huge profits at the expense of quality, safety, maintenance integrity, social goals, etc..This was clearly shown when they appointed SPH to SMRT. Hopefully the COI will interview those Management members who resigned during SPH's tenure. Also the COI will not cover up her mistakes but make them public so that others can learn from them.

Credible anecdotes have been circulating abt how many senior members in the Mgmt team resigned because they disagreed with how SPH cut cost to raise SMRT profits at the expense of maintenance integrity and long term detriment of the whole MRT system...A very credible Team member who resigned several years ago, when asked for comment on why he resigned, was quoted as saying.."you will see the results and know why in a few years time" How prophetic that comment came to be now.

Another credible anecdote was that after the graffiti intrusion case, a security vendor was tasked to recommend improvement to the SMRT depot Security System..The Vendor presented a very comprehensive system...but the SMRT Team commented that it was too expensive and asked for a cheaper alternative.."a two-camera CCTV system to screen trains leaving the depot so that they can be stopped shd graffiti be spotted" if true, it speaks volumes of SMRT's intellect and standard of security awareness

 

[TracyTan866]

The pap's obession with making huge profits has compelled it to put in place CEOs who are willing to meet huge profits at the expense of quality, safety, maintenance integrity, social goals, etc..This was clearly shown when they appointed SPH to SMRT. Hopefully the COI will interview those who Management members who resigned during SPH's tenure. Also the COI will not cover up her mistakes but make them public so that others can learn from them.

Credible anecdotes have been circulating abt how many senior members in the Mgmt team resigned because they disagreed with how SPH cut cost to raise SMRT profits at the expense maintenance integrity and long term detriment of the whole MRT system...A very credible Team member who resigned several years ago, when asked for comment on why he resigned was quoted as saying.."you will see the results and know why in a few years time" How prophetic that comment came to be now.

Another credible anecdote was that after the graffiti intrusion case, a security vendor was tasked to recommend improvement to the SMRT depot Security System..The Vendor presented a very comprehensive system...but the SMRT Team commented that it was too expensive and asked for a cheaper alternative.."a two-camera CCTV system to screen trains leaving the depot so that they can be stopped shd graffiti be spotted" if true, it speaks volumes of SMRT's intellect and standard of security awareness

Selecting people who are only profit minded to be CEOs but have no regard for social wellbeing and at the expense of long term goals will cause SG to crumble

 

[Fook Seng]

Selecting people who are only profit minded to be CEOs but have no regard for social wellbeing and at the expense of long term goals will cause SG to crumble

As we have privatized many of these essential public services, this has, unfortunately, to be the case. That is unless the regulators are strong and have the private companies comply to straight service standards otherwise their licences would be revoked. Small monetary penalties won't do.

 

[TracyTan866]

As we have privatized many of these essential public services, this has, unfortunately, to be the case. That is unless the regulators are strong and have the private companies comply to straight service standards otherwise their licences would be revoked. Small monetary penalties won't do.

Agree...that's why the pap's policy of complete privatisation is detrimental to SG.

A case in point is - shd the pap sell away all the power generation stations?. They xan be seen as strategic companies. Shdnt they in in SG hands?

Shdnt key transportation providers like MRT and SBS be in govt's hands? Shd all hospitals be privatised?

These are key issues the pap has to ponder for the long term good and well being of Singapore and Singaporeans

 

[jw5]

Oh No.
Tracy has been missing for a while.
Don't tell me that she's busy writing her article for this Sunday "How posting in SBF fills the empty void in my heart". :o

 

[zhihau]

Don't tell me that she's busy writing her article for this Sunday "How posting in SBF fills the empty void in my heart". :o

shall keep a look out

 

[Fook Seng]

Oh No.
Tracy has been missing for a while.
Don't tell me that she's busy writing her article for this Sunday "How posting in SBF fills the empty void in my heart". :o

Could also be looking for a new job.

 

[GoldenDragon]

Could also be looking for a new job.

Problem with hubby also possible. Maybe going for divorce? Making baby ?

 

[zhihau]

Problem with hubby also possible. Maybe going for divorce? Making baby ?

set hypothesis 1: Tracy is having problem with hubby.

set hypothesis 2: Tracy and hubby going for divorce.

set hypothesis 3: Tracy is making baby.

3 hypothesis, 1 solution: ask Tracy when the moniker is back