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Coronavirus concerns way overblown

This fucking piece of shit seems have been fine tuned to precision!

The virulent strain pretty much got overtook by the less virulent strain by mid-Jan in China. I guess herd immunity grew and that helps explain how the numbers taper off even in Wuhan. 11 went there for a visit recently, no?
 
Coronavirus concerns way overblown
March 2, 2020
“We have to wash our hands, not our brains.”
– Adoni
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Coronavirus concerns way overblown

Robert W. Felix

I CAN MOST OF THE CRAP LEONGSAM POSTED.
AS THAT FUCKING VERBAL DIARRHEA.
LET THE OBITUARIES TALK INSTEAD


https://news.sky.com/video/obituari...ise-in-coronavirus-deaths-in-bergamo-11957768




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Forward this on your WhatsApp and make this go viral.
Get this onto the handphones of all in Singapore

VOTE OUT ALL THE MAGGOTS AND MAGGOTESS IN WHITE AND TURN STINKAPORE BACK INTO SINGAPORE
OR OUR KIDS END UP BECOMING SECURITY GUARDS TO BE KICKED IN FACE BY CECAs OR PANDA FOOD DELIVERIES OR PICKING UP CARDBOARDS OR SELLING TISSUE PAPER IN HAWKER CENTERS
 
Coronavirus: some recovered patients may have reduced lung function and are left gasping for air while walking briskly, Hong Kong doctors find
Elizabeth Cheung
South China Morning Post12 March 2020

Some patients who recovered from Covid-19 have suffered reduced lung function and now experience problems such as gasping for air when walking quickly, Hong Kong’s Hospital Authority has revealed.

The authority released its findings on Thursday after observing the first group of discharged coronavirus patients.

The city has so far recorded 131 confirmed cases of Covid-19, including three fatalities. Of them, 74 patients have been discharged while one probable coronavirus case has also recovered.

Dr Owen Tsang Tak-yin, medical director of the authority’s Infectious Disease Centre at Princess Margaret Hospital in Kwai Chung, said doctors had already seen around a dozen discharged patients in follow-up appointments. Two to three were unable to do things as they had in the past.

“They gasp if they walk a bit more quickly,” Tsang told a media briefing on Thursday. “Some patients might have around a drop of 20 to 30 per cent in lung function [after recovery].”

Tsang, who also heads an authority task force on the clinical management of infection, said these patients would undergo tests to determine how much lung function they still had. Physiotherapy would also be arranged to strengthen their lungs.

A review of lung scans of nine infected patients at Princess Margaret found patterns similar to frosted glass in all of them, suggesting there was organ damage.

But Tsang said the long-term effect on recovered patients, such as whether they would develop pulmonary fibrosis, a condition where lung tissue hardened and the organ could not function properly, had yet to be ascertained.

He said discharged patients could do cardiovascular exercise such as swimming to help the lungs recover gradually.

The city’s public hospitals are about to conduct clinical trials on remdesivir, a drug originally developed to treat Ebola, to see how effective it is on Covid-19.

Tsang said the drug had already been delivered to hospitals. Doctors would begin identifying suitable patients to join the trials, which were expected to begin in the middle of this month.

He stressed that the drug could lead to some complications, such as affecting liver function and leading to inflammation of the blood vessels.

Covid-19 patients are being treated with Kaletra, a drug originally for HIV/Aids; Ribavirin, which was also used for hepatitis C; and interferon.

https://sg.news.yahoo.com/coronavirus-recovered-patients-may-reduced-151019998.html
 
Coronavirus: some recovered patients may have reduced lung function and are left gasping for air while walking briskly, Hong Kong doctors find
Elizabeth Cheung
South China Morning Post12 March 2020

Some patients who recovered from Covid-19 have suffered reduced lung function and now experience problems such as gasping for air when walking quickly, Hong Kong’s Hospital Authority has revealed.

The authority released its findings on Thursday after observing the first group of discharged coronavirus patients.

The city has so far recorded 131 confirmed cases of Covid-19, including three fatalities. Of them, 74 patients have been discharged while one probable coronavirus case has also recovered.

Dr Owen Tsang Tak-yin, medical director of the authority’s Infectious Disease Centre at Princess Margaret Hospital in Kwai Chung, said doctors had already seen around a dozen discharged patients in follow-up appointments. Two to three were unable to do things as they had in the past.

“They gasp if they walk a bit more quickly,” Tsang told a media briefing on Thursday. “Some patients might have around a drop of 20 to 30 per cent in lung function [after recovery].”

Tsang, who also heads an authority task force on the clinical management of infection, said these patients would undergo tests to determine how much lung function they still had. Physiotherapy would also be arranged to strengthen their lungs.

A review of lung scans of nine infected patients at Princess Margaret found patterns similar to frosted glass in all of them, suggesting there was organ damage.

But Tsang said the long-term effect on recovered patients, such as whether they would develop pulmonary fibrosis, a condition where lung tissue hardened and the organ could not function properly, had yet to be ascertained.

He said discharged patients could do cardiovascular exercise such as swimming to help the lungs recover gradually.

The city’s public hospitals are about to conduct clinical trials on remdesivir, a drug originally developed to treat Ebola, to see how effective it is on Covid-19.

Tsang said the drug had already been delivered to hospitals. Doctors would begin identifying suitable patients to join the trials, which were expected to begin in the middle of this month.

He stressed that the drug could lead to some complications, such as affecting liver function and leading to inflammation of the blood vessels.

Covid-19 patients are being treated with Kaletra, a drug originally for HIV/Aids; Ribavirin, which was also used for hepatitis C; and interferon.

https://sg.news.yahoo.com/coronavirus-recovered-patients-may-reduced-151019998.html

This is not unique to the Covid-19 it is common result of pneumonia caused by any virus that has attacked the lung tissue. In fact it happened to me after my bad bout of infuenza. It took months for lung function to return to normal.

As usual the media is trying to spin a story to give all this corona crap new life after what they perceive to be dwindling interest based on the fact that the current narrative is repetitive and boring and that the worst is over.

The saddest thing is that there are so many idiots in the world who lap it all up. :rolleyes:



What happens after pneumonia?
I had pneumonia last Christmas which has resulted in scarring of my left lung....
20/09/2010

Question

I had pneumonia last Christmas which has resulted in scarring of my left lung.
Will this ever get better?

MORE FROM NETDOCTOR



Answer

I am sorry to learn that you had pneumonia last year. I hope that you have made a good recovery, and that you have returned to full activity.

When an infection develops, there is an inflammation of the air passages beyond the windpipe. Part of our immune response results in the formation of mucus and catarrh, which takes a couple of weeks to clear.

Usually, this will be mopped-up by our defensive mechanisms so that we do not develop pneumonia every time we are exposed to the common cold.

If the attacking bacteria or virus is particularly aggressive, or we are run down and immuno-suppressed, the bug may multiply rapidly to invade a whole area of lung tissue.

This may occur in an entire lobe of the lung or be scattered throughout both lungs in bronchopneumonia. When the lining (pleura) of the lung becomes affected, the infective process will cause the lung to adhere to the pleura to produce the pain of pleurisy.

Then, as the condition becomes walled off by our defending white blood cells, the inflammatory response will sometimes result in scarring.

It is equally likely that an area of infection within the lung will be contained by the body's immune response and that scar tissue will develop.

These changes will often produce an appearance of thickening, or scarring, on an X-ray of the chest.

In time, the infection and inflammatory response will subside. The scarring will diminish steadily as time goes by, and there will be a corresponding improvement in air entry to the damaged lung, and a return towards normal lung function.


In most circumstances the scarring will diminish, even if it does not entirely disappear after a bout of pneumonia.

Yours sincerely

The NetDoctor Medical Team
 
It has begun in Canada now.

Alberta has shut down most things except public schools. And the rationale is because Singapore never shut down their schools and is still able to contain covid19.

Thank you very much Singapore. I am being sarcastic BTW
 
This is not unique to the Covid-19 it is common result of pneumonia caused by any virus that has attacked the lung tissue. In fact it happened to me after my bad bout of infuenza. It took months for lung function to return to normal.

As usual the media is trying to spin a story to give all this corona crap new life after what they perceive to be dwindling interest based on the fact that the current narrative is repetitive and boring and that the worst is over.

The saddest thing is that there are so many idiots in the world who lap it all up. :rolleyes:



What happens after pneumonia?
I had pneumonia last Christmas which has resulted in scarring of my left lung....
20/09/2010

Question

I had pneumonia last Christmas which has resulted in scarring of my left lung.
Will this ever get better?

MORE FROM NETDOCTOR



Answer

I am sorry to learn that you had pneumonia last year. I hope that you have made a good recovery, and that you have returned to full activity.

When an infection develops, there is an inflammation of the air passages beyond the windpipe. Part of our immune response results in the formation of mucus and catarrh, which takes a couple of weeks to clear.

Usually, this will be mopped-up by our defensive mechanisms so that we do not develop pneumonia every time we are exposed to the common cold.

If the attacking bacteria or virus is particularly aggressive, or we are run down and immuno-suppressed, the bug may multiply rapidly to invade a whole area of lung tissue.

This may occur in an entire lobe of the lung or be scattered throughout both lungs in bronchopneumonia. When the lining (pleura) of the lung becomes affected, the infective process will cause the lung to adhere to the pleura to produce the pain of pleurisy.

Then, as the condition becomes walled off by our defending white blood cells, the inflammatory response will sometimes result in scarring.

It is equally likely that an area of infection within the lung will be contained by the body's immune response and that scar tissue will develop.

These changes will often produce an appearance of thickening, or scarring, on an X-ray of the chest.

In time, the infection and inflammatory response will subside. The scarring will diminish steadily as time goes by, and there will be a corresponding improvement in air entry to the damaged lung, and a return towards normal lung function.


In most circumstances the scarring will diminish, even if it does not entirely disappear after a bout of pneumonia.

Yours sincerely

The NetDoctor Medical Team
I understand your position. It is reported that most viral pneumonia is usually mild. But in some cases it can become very serious. It seems that with Covid-19, the overwhelming of healthcare facilities is the main worry of medical professionals. Mainly, the shortage of ventilators. They anticipate a lot of patients developing severe pneumonia with this virus. Hence, this is not your run-of-the-mill flu virus.

The influenza virus is the most common cause of viral pneumonia in adults. Respiratory syncytial virus (RSV) is the most common cause of viral pneumonia in young children. Most viral pneumonias are not serious and last a shorter time than bacterial pneumonia.

https://www.lung.org/lung-health-an...e-lookup/pneumonia/what-causes-pneumonia.html
 
It has begun in Canada now.

Alberta has shut down most things except public schools. And the rationale is because Singapore never shut down their schools and is still able to contain covid19.

Thank you very much Singapore. I am being sarcastic BTW
Tell them Singapore is a bad example. I think the pap is following the UK's approach of using herd immunity. Dangerous approach because many will die. They tell us not to wear masks, are itching to reopen borders, and want kids to infect their parents and grandparents by bringing home the virus from school.

If you have a new disease, such as COVID-19, that we don’t have a vaccine for and no one in the country has ever been infected with, the disease will spread through the population. But if enough people develop an immune memory, then the disease will stop spreading, even if some of the population is not immune. This is herd immunity, and it is a very effective way to protect the whole of a population against infectious disease.

If we don’t have a vaccine – as we don’t for COVID-19 – achieving herd immunity would require a significant proportion of the population to be infected and recover from COVID-19.


http://theconversation.com/coronavirus-can-herd-immunity-really-protect-us-133583
 
Tell them Singapore is a bad example. I think the pap is following the UK's approach of using herd immunity. Dangerous approach because many will die. They tell us not to wear masks, are itching to reopen borders, and want kids to infect their parents and grandparents by bringing home the virus from school.

If you have a new disease, such as COVID-19, that we don’t have a vaccine for and no one in the country has ever been infected with, the disease will spread through the population. But if enough people develop an immune memory, then the disease will stop spreading, even if some of the population is not immune. This is herd immunity, and it is a very effective way to protect the whole of a population against infectious disease.

If we don’t have a vaccine – as we don’t for COVID-19 – achieving herd immunity would require a significant proportion of the population to be infected and recover from COVID-19.


http://theconversation.com/coronavirus-can-herd-immunity-really-protect-us-133583
I have I also posted

https://www.greatdeals.com.sg/2020/03/08/universal-studios-free-season-pass-promotion/amp

And tell them Singapore will die without tourism and services. Which is why they are so reluctant to close schools.

Follow Singapore? Then restart the NHL. Open Disneyland and offer free season passes.

Nonsense lah.

Singapore is lucky cos of the weather.
 
I understand your position. It is reported that most viral pneumonia is usually mild. But in some cases it can become very serious. It seems that with Covid-19, the overwhelming of healthcare facilities is the main worry of medical professionals. Mainly, the shortage of ventilators. They anticipate a lot of patients developing severe pneumonia with this virus. Hence, this is not your run-of-the-mill flu virus.

The influenza virus is the most common cause of viral pneumonia in adults. Respiratory syncytial virus (RSV) is the most common cause of viral pneumonia in young children. Most viral pneumonias are not serious and last a shorter time than bacterial pneumonia.

https://www.lung.org/lung-health-an...e-lookup/pneumonia/what-causes-pneumonia.html

A small cut on a my big toe or a prick by a rose thorn can become serious too.

What is the world coming to that we are just so damned scared of everything except the things we should actually be scared of.

Shall we BAN the sale of rose plants from hereon in?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1259268/Pensioner-dies-pricking-finger-rose-bush.html

Pensioner dies after pricking finger on rose bush
By CHRIS BROOKE FOR THE DAILY MAIL
UPDATED: 12:17 AEDT, 20 March 2010




A pensioner has died after pricking his finger on a rose bush while gardening at home.

George Emmerson, 73, didn't realise a thorn from the plant he was pruning back had become embedded into his finger and developed blood poisoning.

His arm had to be amputated and he died a week after the apparently trivial incident.

Mr Emmerson was married with three children and three grandchildren, who have been stunned by the freak gardening tragedy.


Emmerson

George Emmerson died after contracting blood poisoning when he pricked his finger on a thorn while gardening
 
I have I also posted

https://www.greatdeals.com.sg/2020/03/08/universal-studios-free-season-pass-promotion/amp

And tell them Singapore will die without tourism and services. Which is why they are so reluctant to close schools.

Follow Singapore? Then restart the NHL. Open Disneyland and offer free season passes.

Nonsense lah.

Singapore is lucky cos of the weather.
Sinkieland can contain (thus far) because contact tracing is good. This is a small country, everyone's being watched by Big Brother. They roped in the police to help. This is why we have been "effective". Best would be to lockdown the country but pap would never ever do that. Money and economy are more important than sinkie lives.
 
A small cut on a my big toe or a prick by a rose thorn can become serious too.

What is the world coming to that we are just so damned scared of everything except the things we should actually be scared of.

Shall we BAN the sale of rose plants from hereon in?

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1259268/Pensioner-dies-pricking-finger-rose-bush.html

Pensioner dies after pricking finger on rose bush
By CHRIS BROOKE FOR THE DAILY MAIL
UPDATED: 12:17 AEDT, 20 March 2010




A pensioner has died after pricking his finger on a rose bush while gardening at home.

George Emmerson, 73, didn't realise a thorn from the plant he was pruning back had become embedded into his finger and developed blood poisoning.

His arm had to be amputated and he died a week after the apparently trivial incident.

Mr Emmerson was married with three children and three grandchildren, who have been stunned by the freak gardening tragedy.


Emmerson

George Emmerson died after contracting blood poisoning when he pricked his finger on a thorn while gardening
This coronavirus is not your usual flu virus. It targets the lower respiratory tract and lungs, infected persons are asymptomatic etc etc. You know how potent it is.

The world has valid reasons to be scared of it. Please bear with us while we ride this one out, and forgive us for being very concerned.

BTW NZ only has 6 cases, WTF!
 
Sinkieland can contain (thus far) because contact tracing is good. This is a small country, everyone's being watched by Big Brother. They roped in the police to help. This is why we have been "effective". Best would be to lockdown the country but pap would never ever do that. Money and economy are more important than sinkie lives.
they lost contact with the wuhan whore who infected the bangla worker who is still in icu. apparently, they also cannot trace over 169 of her clients. her clients must be banging away more prostitutes in geylang and passing the virus around. it's just a matter of time before the next (big) wave hits.
 
they lost contact with the wuhan whore who infected the bangla worker who is still in icu. apparently, they also cannot trace over 169 of her clients. her clients must be banging away more prostitutes in geylang and passing the virus around. it's just a matter of time before the next (big) wave hits.
Case 12? She was discharged. After that, I guess she returned to servicing her clients.
 
The scarring will diminish steadily as time goes by, and there will be a corresponding improvement in air entry to the damaged lung

Not just for pneumonia, a serious bout of bronchitis can reduce your lung capacity by a fair bit too.
 
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Show me how you got 1.x % What numbers did you use?
As of the 13th of March 2020, South Korea confirmed the 7,979th case of infection after the first case of coronavirus in the country on January 20. At the moment, 510 patients were discharged from hospitals after making a full recovery from the virus and 67 deaths are reported. In total, over 240 thousand people are tested until now.

This puts the mortality rate at 0.8%.

As more results come in from the total tested the figure will fall further and it will be found that the mortality rate is no greater than that of influenza.

510 people discharged. 67 deaths. total sample 577?

67 deaths out of 577. Couldn't get 0.8% from the numbers you provided. just wondering what I missed.
 
not forgetting to mention the virus will usually keep to its less virulent form if it wants to ensure reproductive success.
You assume viruses are rational.
historically, pathogens tend towards this. I have forgotten the exact details and can go and dig it up, but it actually ensures the survivability of the virus. A virus that is virulent enough to kill it's host off will run out of hosts.
 
510 people discharged. 67 deaths. total sample 577?

67 deaths out of 577. Couldn't get 0.8% from the numbers you provided. just wondering what I missed.

The total number of confirmed cases != total number of actual carriers.

We can go on until the cows come home, really. One thing for sure, total number of confirmed cases reported and recorded in the medal tally < total number of actual carriers.
 
The virulent strain pretty much got overtook by the less virulent strain by mid-Jan in China. I guess herd immunity grew and that helps explain how the numbers taper off even in Wuhan. 11 went there for a visit recently, no?
looks like everyone there has caught it already.
 
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