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All Cecilia Sue stuff here please....
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Bo profound leh. Just cannot see Yen Yen being a winner. How to? Other than $$$ from divorce if it takes place. But she had to pay a price. Too heavy a price, imo. The others all pau jiak, especially the lawyers.
Bro, I find the decision to bring this case into the open, given the facts and circumstances, a little weird. More serious offences and misconduct were swept under the carpet previously. And we are talking about Supt rank to SAC.
Why hang NBG? Not afraid he would leak out all the other cases involving very senior police officers who were leniently let off the hook? Looks more like personal vendetta to me. And this chap must be very senior and influential to pull off this stunt.
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basically, it's a trial on the establishment, not so much the couple. and if they can't work this saga out behind closed doors and without publicity, it shows leadership is fragmented, and rogue elements and cowboys are calling the shots and shooting wildly.
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Not likely YY's. My secret squirrel apprised me it was hubby of CS who first alerted CPIB. If it was a person in the private sector screwing CS, not likely to get CPIB involved. The best way to deal with civil servants is to introduce CPIB into the picture.
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looks like personal vendetta to me too. but to clear the teok and loong approval chain, the invisible hand must have misrepresented advice and info. otherwise, can't see how the dpm and pm could have not seen this cumming and cleared it. *scratch lumpar*
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Lawyers always win when bickering occurs in court. Just look at Apple vs Samsung.
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Yen Yen should share her bed with Cecilia. Two women can serve one master.
Both women can take turns, explore different positions, and have an extra warm body to cuddle at night.
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Latest article from yahoo news. Apparently CS claimed that Ah Gay's wife "cannot give him certain things". 
‘I asked Boon Gay what if the child is his’
You think it couldn’t get more shocking but it did.
In the fourth day of the trial of ex-Central Narcotics Bureau Chief Ng Boon Gay on Friday, the court heard that the state’s key witness, Cecilia Sue, made an earlier statement that she had a pregnancy scare during her relationship with the accused.
“When I was pregnant in the first quarter of 2010, I asked Boon Gay what if the child was his,” she said in a statement to the Corrupt Practices Investigation Bureau on 3 May 2012.
“At that time, I felt Boon Gay was an irresponsible man because he did not want to show responsibility and he did not want to care either. He broke my heart,” she had declared. “It was then I decided to end my relationship with him. After I told him that I wanted to end the physical intimacy in September/October 2010, I did not remember giving him any indication that I liked him.”
When Ng’s defence counsel pressed her on about her CPIB statement, the 36-year-old former IT sales executive again insisted that she had no sexual intercourse with Ng.
“If you want to prove we have a relationship, I’m telling you we did not have…” she said. “Yes, I’m fearful of him but I think it’s time to stand up.”
Ng is accused of corruptly obtaining sexual gratification on four occasions from Sue from June to December last year by assisting to further the business interests of her then employers Oracle Corporation Singapore and Hitachi Data Systems in dealings with CNB.
Sue claimed that on each of the four occasions she was an unwilling partner and that on several occasions, Ng had forcibly pushed her head towards his crotch in the car and there was contact between her mouth and his private parts.
In further questioning by Ng’s defence lawyer Tan Chee Meng on Friday, Sue maintained that there were no other occasions that she was unsuccessfully forced into providing oral sex to Ng than the four mentioned she earlier mentioned.
Tan then pointed out to Sue’s statement to CPIB on 20 December last year wherein she said that after the first sexual encounter with Ng, there were more than ten times she engaged with oral sex with the former civil servant.
Asked to explain the inconsistencies in her statements, Sue said she was very tired and didn’t scrutinize her answers.
A few other discrepancies between her testimony for the prosecution and her statements to the CPIB were highlighted by the defence counsel in the cross-examination.
In another CPIB statement, she had said that she felt her liking for Ng “was strong enough to contemplate divorcing” her husband.
However, in response to Tan’s questioning, Sue denied that was lying to save herself from prosecution or to save her marriage.
She then claimed that she knew Ng “has problems with his wife” and that “his wife cannot give him certain things”.
Questions on influence
When the trial continued in the afternoon, the defence focused on Sue's knowledge of what influences the tender process at CNB.
Tan asked her if Ng used his power and position to influence the approval of tender, to which Sue said it was difficult to answer because she did not know what Ng had done.
The counsel then asked if Sue did not know what Ng has done, how could she say the ex-CNB chief influenced it.
The witness then changed her statement. "Can i rephrase? He can influence, that's it," she said.
"But did he?" asked Tan.
"I don't know," she replied.
The lawyer then proceeded to read out Sue's statement to CPIB wherein she had said that Ng did not and cannot influence the tender process at the anti-narcotics bureau.
"Boon Gay works on the recommendation of his subordinates. It's not possible to influence the results of those tenders," he quoted her as saying in the statement.
Also, according to her CPIB statement, she claimed she spoke to Ng about a CNB project but he did not want to discuss it, and, furthermore, when she joined Oracle and was forced to deal with Ng directly, he had said Ng told her he would leave it to his team.
‘I asked Boon Gay what if the child is his’
You think it couldn’t get more shocking but it did.
In the fourth day of the trial of ex-Central Narcotics Bureau Chief Ng Boon Gay on Friday, the court heard that the state’s key witness, Cecilia Sue, made an earlier statement that she had a pregnancy scare during her relationship with the accused.
“When I was pregnant in the first quarter of 2010, I asked Boon Gay what if the child was his,” she said in a statement to the Corrupt Practices Investigation Bureau on 3 May 2012.
“At that time, I felt Boon Gay was an irresponsible man because he did not want to show responsibility and he did not want to care either. He broke my heart,” she had declared. “It was then I decided to end my relationship with him. After I told him that I wanted to end the physical intimacy in September/October 2010, I did not remember giving him any indication that I liked him.”
When Ng’s defence counsel pressed her on about her CPIB statement, the 36-year-old former IT sales executive again insisted that she had no sexual intercourse with Ng.
“If you want to prove we have a relationship, I’m telling you we did not have…” she said. “Yes, I’m fearful of him but I think it’s time to stand up.”
Ng is accused of corruptly obtaining sexual gratification on four occasions from Sue from June to December last year by assisting to further the business interests of her then employers Oracle Corporation Singapore and Hitachi Data Systems in dealings with CNB.
Sue claimed that on each of the four occasions she was an unwilling partner and that on several occasions, Ng had forcibly pushed her head towards his crotch in the car and there was contact between her mouth and his private parts.
In further questioning by Ng’s defence lawyer Tan Chee Meng on Friday, Sue maintained that there were no other occasions that she was unsuccessfully forced into providing oral sex to Ng than the four mentioned she earlier mentioned.
Tan then pointed out to Sue’s statement to CPIB on 20 December last year wherein she said that after the first sexual encounter with Ng, there were more than ten times she engaged with oral sex with the former civil servant.
Asked to explain the inconsistencies in her statements, Sue said she was very tired and didn’t scrutinize her answers.
A few other discrepancies between her testimony for the prosecution and her statements to the CPIB were highlighted by the defence counsel in the cross-examination.
In another CPIB statement, she had said that she felt her liking for Ng “was strong enough to contemplate divorcing” her husband.
However, in response to Tan’s questioning, Sue denied that was lying to save herself from prosecution or to save her marriage.
She then claimed that she knew Ng “has problems with his wife” and that “his wife cannot give him certain things”.
Questions on influence
When the trial continued in the afternoon, the defence focused on Sue's knowledge of what influences the tender process at CNB.
Tan asked her if Ng used his power and position to influence the approval of tender, to which Sue said it was difficult to answer because she did not know what Ng had done.
The counsel then asked if Sue did not know what Ng has done, how could she say the ex-CNB chief influenced it.
The witness then changed her statement. "Can i rephrase? He can influence, that's it," she said.
"But did he?" asked Tan.
"I don't know," she replied.
The lawyer then proceeded to read out Sue's statement to CPIB wherein she had said that Ng did not and cannot influence the tender process at the anti-narcotics bureau.
"Boon Gay works on the recommendation of his subordinates. It's not possible to influence the results of those tenders," he quoted her as saying in the statement.
Also, according to her CPIB statement, she claimed she spoke to Ng about a CNB project but he did not want to discuss it, and, furthermore, when she joined Oracle and was forced to deal with Ng directly, he had said Ng told her he would leave it to his team.
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yes, tarma. because according to Cecilia, she can give ah gay certain things that yen yen cannot.
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Seems true years ago got a pap min Yeo ***** tong his wife a lawyer ***** yeo.Got into trouble garment bail him out on condition he step down.
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NBG was introduced to CS by a friend. They met at a pub in Tg Pagar. I think this friend should play a role in court, for the defence or prosecution. Why never name this friend?
If CS was upset with NBG's advances, attempts for BJs and what-have-you, surely this friend may know something. CS never tekaned this friend for introducing a wolf to her?
If NBG did have an affair with CS, surely this friend would know. Wonder if there were others present when they first met at Tg Pagar. I think this friend shouldn't be hiding. He should just step forward and enlighten the court what he knew and what transpired between him and CS and NBG. His testimony is super important. Not possible that after introducing the two, he dieded and was never kept in-the-loop of development. Strange that CPIB doesn't find HIM useful.
Tiok bo?
If CS was upset with NBG's advances, attempts for BJs and what-have-you, surely this friend may know something. CS never tekaned this friend for introducing a wolf to her?
If NBG did have an affair with CS, surely this friend would know. Wonder if there were others present when they first met at Tg Pagar. I think this friend shouldn't be hiding. He should just step forward and enlighten the court what he knew and what transpired between him and CS and NBG. His testimony is super important. Not possible that after introducing the two, he dieded and was never kept in-the-loop of development. Strange that CPIB doesn't find HIM useful.
Tiok bo?
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Many advantages to be kwai kwai. If he was a rebel, sure poke kai.
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Don't know why there is a spate of sexual corruption cases ranging from Peter Lim, Ng, to sex Prof and the vice caese. Is it coincident to the enforcements against massage parlours and KTVs. Is it all part of the effort to clean up vice in Singapore?
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dose sex cases never involved any mp n ktv 1 woh ...
it clearly shows dat ze gahmenz noe nuts in trying 2 curb sexual corruption cases ... even if dey close all mps n ktvs oso no use ...
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Maybe if want to read further into this, this is a strike by the conservative right to make Sinkies squeaky clean again. They already comply with US government request on human trafficking by tightening up the vice trade. Now they want to make examples of high officials who abuse their positions. So Bros or cheongsters beware!! The conservative right are going after u.
imho no invisible hand will dare misrepresent to such proportion. Maybe we have underestimated the size of the elephant. Maybe NGB and PL are just grass who happen to be growing at the wrong place and wrong time and worse, supporting the wrong cow.
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Other moves I am seeing is the US Foreign Corrupt Act and also the move to curb no of foreign entertainers in night clubs. Maybe soon they will move against the KTVs as this is major source of corruption activities. Just my take on the wider scheme of things. Not sure what the end goal is, maybe they trying to stem the divorce rates and we spray our sperms into the right pussies to make babies!!
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