The Purpose Of Government

[jw5]

According to the pappies, it's economic growth at all cost.
Make the peasants work, make them obedient, get in whoever and whatever you can to grow the economy and make the country richer, reward the elites and whoever is deemed to have contributed significantly based on the decision of a select few or perhaps even one person. If certain peasants' lives happen to improve as well, good for them.

But shouldn't be the purpose of government to make sure every citizen leads a reasonably decent life which is always improving, even if it means sacrificing a little economic growth? Even if it means redistributing some surpluses or even reserves so that they can live a basic life with dignity? Even if it means that the rich and the elite have to be slightly less wealthy so that their fellow citizens can live with dignity and in basic comfort? To make sure "no man is left behind", in the midst of capitalism and growth?

Anyone agree?

 

[mscitw]

The sole purpose of the present regime is the maintain the prestige and power of the Imperial Family.

Supporters are rewarded with high pay and pension perks that will maintain their lavish lifestyle. As PS Tan has demostrated that his blind loyalty to the regime gives him the $$ to work as a expensive kitchen help in Paris.

The YPAP goons have reaped the benefits of supporting their political masters as the murky contracts dished to party supporters in Eunos proved the gravy is tempting for regime supporters.

Woe woe woe, peasantpore, a country who worship autocrats, prefers foreign talents and pardons ang mohs of high crimes (ask e romanians, they know more).

 

[IR123]

According to the pappies, it's economic growth at all cost.
Make the peasants work, make them obedient, get in whoever and whatever you can to grow the economy and make the country richer, reward the elites and whoever is deemed to have contributed significantly based on the decision of a select few or perhaps even one person. If certain peasants' lives happen to improve as well, good for them.

But shouldn't be the purpose of government to make sure every citizen leads a reasonably decent life which is always improving, even if it means sacrificing a little economic growth? Even if it means redistributing some surpluses or even reserves so that they can live a basic life with dignity? Even if it means that the rich and the elite have to be slightly less wealthy so that their fellow citizens can live with dignity and in basic comfort? To make sure "no man is left behind", in the midst of capitalism and growth?

Anyone agree?

I think a lot depends on who benefit from the growth and who bears the burden of that growth.


The price for the same good has risen. Compare a university education, cost of public flat, cost of medical care, total cost of owning a car now and five years back. For the same item, you are now paying far more.

For that matter, consider the cost of employing the same MP now and five years back. The MP remains the same but you are paying more for his upkeep.

GDP has certainly grown in dollar terms.





Now who benefits? And who pay for those costs?

That is why some will agree with you and others disagree.

 

[tonychat]

U forgot. Screwing sinkies too.

 

[Watchman]

I think a lot depends on who benefit from the growth and who bears the burden of that growth.


The price for the same good has risen. Compare a university education, cost of public flat, cost of medical care, total cost of owning a car now and five years back. For the same item, you are now paying far more.

For that matter, consider the cost of employing the same MP now and five years back. The MP remains the same but you are paying more for his upkeep.

GDP has certainly grown in dollar terms.





Now who benefits? And who pay for those costs?

That is why some will agree with you and others disagree.

For that is your salary increasing $500-$1000 every year ?

 

[makapaaa]

Economic growth and human rights development go hand in hand. There's no need to sacrifice either. The main problem is the WICKED and GREEDY NATURE of the Familee and its PAPee TRAITOR DOGs. They want everything for themselves and they want to perpetuate their power. If a functional govt had been in place, Sporeans would have been enjoying the fruits of their labour. Instead, they are being subjected to half a century of oppression and now economic genocide by FTrashisation. Solution? VOTE OUT THE PAPEE TRAITORS AND BRING THEM TO JUSTICE!

 

[Lestat]

To reply to your topic header question:

"To serve the people's purpose and not to make the people serve their purpose."

 

[iamtalkinglah]

I think a lot depends on who benefit from the growth and who bears the burden of that growth.

The price for the same good has risen. Compare a university education, cost of public flat, cost of medical care, total cost of owning a car now and five years back. For the same item, you are now paying far more.

For that matter, consider the cost of employing the same MP now and five years back. The MP remains the same but you are paying more for his upkeep.

GDP has certainly grown in dollar terms.

Now who benefits? And who pay for those costs?

That is why some will agree with you and others disagree.

We should look at the welfare of overall Singaporeans. Definitely there will be some winners and losers. Would you rather let a $900/a month salary guy lose $500 a month in earnings or would you let the $12,000/a month salary guy lose?

 

[iamtalkinglah]

For that is your salary increasing $500-$1000 every year ?

You will be surprised.

 

[iamtalkinglah]

According to the pappies, it's economic growth at all cost.
...
Even if it means that the rich and the elite have to be slightly less wealthy so that their fellow citizens can live with dignity and in basic comfort? To make sure "no man is left behind", in the midst of capitalism and growth?

Anyone agree?

I agree with you.

 

[moolightaffairs]

hope all you "english educated" ones can understand what 孫中山 is trying to say. i feel that it is very much similar to present situation in sg. hopefully its not too profound for pappies and oppositions here.

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[kingrant]

Don't you know yr govt abandoned socialist ideals long ago after they got married to laissez-faire capitalism and globalisation at all costs? Once a govt believes in letting market forces set the prices of everything, every activity, every entity has to justify its P&L or it gets terminated. This was the thinking of Milton Friedman who won a Nobel prize for his theory. The Sinkie govt was a fan of MF. That is the cause of rising healthcare and rising electricity bills in the US, and the poor aged who has a pacemaker who can't afford to pay his electric bill will be left to die. This is the Republican's idealogy which of course benefited the rich, the big businesses and the capitalists. Singapore is following not too far behind.

According to the pappies, it's economic growth at all cost.
Make the peasants work, make them obedient, get in whoever and whatever you can to grow the economy and make the country richer, reward the elites and whoever is deemed to have contributed significantly based on the decision of a select few or perhaps even one person. If certain peasants' lives happen to improve as well, good for them.

But shouldn't be the purpose of government to make sure every citizen leads a reasonably decent life which is always improving, even if it means sacrificing a little economic growth? Even if it means redistributing some surpluses or even reserves so that they can live a basic life with dignity? Even if it means that the rich and the elite have to be slightly less wealthy so that their fellow citizens can live with dignity and in basic comfort? To make sure "no man is left behind", in the midst of capitalism and growth?

Anyone agree?

 

[batman1]

A good government takes care of the well-being and livelihood of its citizens.
The MIW,is NOT a goodgovernment,it is a corporation to enrich the MIW members by squeezing blood,sweat and tears from its citizens .

 

[kingrant]

Those who want to know more should read Joseph Stiglitz, Paul Krugman, Milton Friedman himself among others.

 

[VIBGYOR]

hope all you "english educated" ones can understand what 孫中山 is trying to say. i feel that it is very much similar to present situation in sg. hopefully its not too profound for pappies and oppositions here.

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guess where he got his motivation and inspirations from?

 

[VIBGYOR]

A good government takes care of the well-being and livelihood of its citizens.
The MIW,is NOT a goodgovernment,it is a corporation to enrich the MIW members by squeezing blood,sweat and tears from its citizens .

The time is ripe to overthrow the government!!!

 

[Ramseth]

I think that according to LKY, his nickname 孙大炮 is more apt and people who believe him must be daft.

hope all you "english educated" ones can understand what 孫中山 is trying to say. i feel that it is very much similar to present situation in sg. hopefully its not too profound for pappies and oppositions here.

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[VIBGYOR]

To me,

PAP is not a government anymore..

It's more like a greedy corporate entity out to milk every singaporeans...

 

[littlefish]

People are willing to die trying to live up to ideals. To have a realist as a leader is like sailing on a rudderless ship. You have no fixed direction and you have no idea where you are heading for. This is the situation in SG now. Without political ideals, every facet of life is affected. Witness the baffling array of ideas like IRs, F1 racing, life sciences, FTs, SIP, etc. Not that each of them is totally without merit but it is a case of always chasing the money rather than attracting the money. Chasing after the money may fill your stomach temporarily but it empties your mind permanently.

 

[VIBGYOR]

this is the hallmark of a social darwinist!!

you need an idealist like Jesus (an egalitarian) to lead people out of their misery!

Jesus is Hope!

Jesus is Love!

Jesus is Peace!

all other combinations we are again back to square one!! why? because we are all sinners!!