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Wuhan Virus - Sinkies are soooooooo dumb, people fuck them also they don't know

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KNS, even I did not send my Indon maid to the market the last few days. What if she goes out and then kena infected and bring it back to my house. Sway like fuck. My aircon electricity bill going to be sky high this month. But have to send her soon to do marketing. Can tar pau also, but still exposing myself. Its times like this that I wish I had big titted blonde maid, then I don't mind getting self quarantined with her. sigh.

Wah you have maid.
 

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Its simple really. PAP wants singapura to retain its chinese dominance, plus to retain the population balance of multiculturism, some cecas must be added in as well.
Malays as usual are not welcome. Replaced by philippinos.

Why sinkee Malays want to stay when they can enjoy privilege in Mudland?
 

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As I cower inside my semi-D somewhere in East Coast, i have not gone out now for a couple of days and have no intention to do so for fear of contracting the corona virus. thanks to fucking cocking PAP assholes who voted the Pigs Are Pigs into power, we are all fucked. No one bothers to ask the following questions:

1) how come a small country, one of the smallest in the world, has the world's second most infections outside of China? We are 3400km away from Wuhan for fuck's sake. Even next door to China, Hong Kong has less cases then us!

2) The reason why we have so many infections here is because of the 750,000 PRC that the PAP has allowed to live, study, and work here.

3) The blame of infection on chinese tourist does not answer the question of why the fuck the tourists are coming here. Its not like we have cheap shopping, cheap food, beaches, etc. They go to Malaysia and Thailand for that. The reason so many chinese visit singapore is to meet up with their fucking friends and relatives already living here. This is why the infection has spread to sinkies in the heartland. These so call tourist are not staying in Orchard Road or tourist area, they are staying in HDB flats with their friends and relatives, and that is how sinkies catch it.

4) Singapore is now confirmed Chinese Vassal state as evidenced by the slowness of the PAP to adopt measures against the China citizens to bar them from Singapore. This so called 14 days LOA instead of mandatory quarantine or outright deportation or refusal of entry is just bullshit. They even let in 2 large transport planes and 6 fighters from the PLAAF on Wednesday for the Singapore Airshow. Of course, no quarantine for these fuckers. Unbelievable. The vassal puppet Lee Gay Loong don't dare to tell the Chinese to fuck off and not come.

5) The fact that Hong Kong has closed all schools for the month of February, and many countries have ban large public gathering, while the PAP has not, speaks to the recklessness of the govt. These fuckers don't give a shit. Their main priority is to continue to make money and to continue to please China.

Why Sinkies cannot see all this evident truth is beyond me.
One other point is...is the rate of infection in singkieland higher than in HK and Macau? The border crossings between ah tiong land n HK n macau is much higher than singkieland n ah tiong land
 

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Most sinkies are impressionable and easily manipulated, while some suffer from delusions of grandeur. :wink:

I am with you on this too! But I would say "many" suffer from delusions of grandeur instead of just "some".:wink:
 

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One other point is...is the rate of infection in singkieland higher than in HK and Macau? The border crossings between ah tiong land n HK n macau is much higher than singkieland n ah tiong land

we just have much better detection capability. indonesia has zero cases coz they probably tested zero/few patients. they didn't even bother testing those who returned from wuhan. life is cheap. rupiah is weak.
 

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Mike Rowse
Coronavirus outbreak: Why I refuse to queue up for masks and participate in the general panic
  • The outbreak calls for a calm and considered response, keeping in mind its severity compared to other diseases and the utility of products such as masks
  • Shoppers panicking in supermarket aisles and medical worker strikes are not helpful
Mike Rowse
Mike Rowse

Published: 2:00pm, 9 Feb, 2020


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A shopper wearing a face mask sorts items in her trolley as she stands next to bare supermarket shelves, usually stocked with toilet paper and kitchen rolls, in Hong Kong on February 6. Panic buyers in Hong Kong have descended on supermarkets to snap up toilet paper after false online claims of shortages, prompting authorities to appeal for calm. Photo: AFP
A shopper wearing a face mask sorts items in her trolley as she stands next to bare supermarket shelves, usually stocked with toilet paper and kitchen rolls, in Hong Kong on February 6. Panic buyers in Hong Kong have descended on supermarkets to snap up toilet paper after false online claims of shortages, prompting authorities to appeal for calm. Photo: AFP

A shopper wearing a face mask sorts items in her trolley as she stands next to bare supermarket shelves, usually stocked with toilet paper and kitchen rolls, in Hong Kong on February 6. Panic buyers in Hong Kong have descended on supermarkets to snap up toilet paper after false online claims of shortages, prompting authorities to appeal for calm. Photo: AFP

I have a confession to make: I have not so far worn a
face mask
at any time during the present outbreak of new coronavirus. Not on the MTR or buses, not in the coffee shop where I get my daily brew, not in the fast food establishment where once a week I indulge in a happy meal.
What has led me to this apparently radical (or foolhardy if you prefer) decision? Well, I tried to analyse the situation based on scientific facts, rather than hysteria, and to put those facts in perspective.
If you have symptoms of a cold or the flu (coughing, sneezing or fever), which are similar to those of the virus, stay at home until you have recovered. If you must venture out, either because of urgent business or the need to consult a doctor, then wear a mask so as not to infect others.
In short, the face mask is to protect other people from the illness you are carrying. Many of the masks on sale here do very little to protect you from picking up the virus from someone else. Most experts seem to agree that the best thing to do whether you feel unwell or not is to frequently
wash your hands
.

As you read this column, millions of Americans are suffering from seasonal flu and over 10,000 have already died.


Did you miss the news about the emergency meeting of the World Health Organisation and the press conference to announce a travel advisory on the United States? Don’t worry, neither took place. Did you know that hundreds of thousands of people worldwide die every year from seasonal flu? And the average number of flu deaths per year in Hong Kong alone is
431
? Probably not, old information doesn’t count as “news”.

In comparison, there are over 31,000 novel coronavirus cases on the mainland at the time of writing, with the number of deaths now over 600. Meanwhile, over 1,300 have recovered and that number too is rising.

The latest coronavirus is the seventh to be identified. The two deadliest strains to date have been Middle East respiratory syndrome and severe acute respiratory syndrome. Mers had a mortality rate of over 30 per cent, Sars around 10 per cent.
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The new coronavirus currently has a mortality rate of around 2 per cent. If, as some are suggesting, there has indeed been significant under-reporting in the number of cases, either because of deliberate official understatement or because some sufferers have only very mild symptoms, then that would suggest the actual mortality rate is even less than 2 per cent.
Are we overreacting to the coronavirus threat and fuelling fear not facts?
6 Feb 2020

Wherever there is controversy, politicians and other ne’er-do-wells will not be far behind. Some have seized upon the outbreak as another stick with which to beat the government. Certainly there are aspects of the handling which could have been better, and incredibly Macau has
outperformed Hong Kong
at least in terms of mask distribution.

It is a measure of how low government credibility here has fallen that the community has even resorted to the old practice of
clearing supermarket shelves
of rice and other necessities at the first sign of trouble. Surely we should have put that kind of panic reaction behind us decades ago.
Hongkongers stockpile toilet paper and tissues on February 6. Photo: Bloomberg

Hongkongers stockpile toilet paper and tissues on February 6. Photo: Bloomberg
And what should we make of the formation of a new trade union for staff in the medical sector, which, as its first action,
called a strike
during a health crisis? How the
Sars heroes
of 2003 must be turning in their graves.

While doctors and scientists worldwide burn the midnight oil in an effort to
develop a vaccine
, how should we handle relations with the mainland and mainlanders? First we have to recognise that we are part of China and our communities are extensively interrelated.
Technology’s vital role in preventing infectious disease outbreaks
7 Feb 2020

We import much of our food and other essential commodities from there. Certainly we should be minimising cross-boundary traffic for the time being, especially people coming from the epicentre in Hubei. Surely, we can do that without vilifying the whole nation. What are we doing to help them in their hour of need? Have we forgotten already the mainlanders coming to rescue of our economy in 2003?
I have to declare an interest here as I have family members normally based in Beijing, who recently visited Shenzhen for the new year. They came over the border to see me, we had dinner together and hugged warmly before they went back. They were monitored for symptoms on the way in and again when they went back. Is that really so inadequate?
Travellers walk through ticket gates at the Lo Wu MTR station on February 3. That border crossing has now been closed. Photo: Edmond So

Travellers walk through ticket gates at the Lo Wu MTR station on February 3. That border crossing has now been closed. Photo: Edmond So
The new coronavirus is an unpleasant illness and we should do all we reasonably can to prevent its entry and spread. But cool heads make more sense than blocking roads and supermarket aisle fights. Our response must be calm and proportionate. Most of us will not catch it, most of those who do will survive.
My attitude to those who insist on wearing masks is similar to my attitude to religion: I am not a regular church-goer myself but you are welcome to believe in any creed which gives you comfort. If you want to queue up all night to spend HK$50 on a mask that normally retails for HK$5, then all I can say is: thank you. Just don’t expect to see me behind you in the queue.
Mike Rowse is the CEO of Treloar Enterprises
This article appeared in the South China Morning Post print edition as: Why I refuse to queue up for masks and join the panic
 

Hypocrite-The

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we just have much better detection capability. indonesia has zero cases coz they probably tested zero/few patients. they didn't even bother testing those who returned from wuhan. life is cheap. rupiah is weak.
Hong Kong's medical services are on par with singkieland,,,and looking at the figures,..HK in general has 600k travellers moving between HK and ah tiong land per day. Singkieland has just flights and maybe cruise ships,,,and the rate of singkieland is higher than in HK....so what gives? Cannot be the detection rates are better than HK,,,HK is not indonland,,,and Vietnam has a lower rate of infection too...It can also mean that the infected is already circulating and its like a normal flu. not a big deal

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

WUHAN CORONAVIRUS OUTBREAK
Last updated: February 10, 2020, 06:35 GMT
Cases - Deaths - Countries - Death Rate - Transmission Rate - Incubation - Age
Coronavirus Cases:
40,614
of which 6,494
in serious/critical condition
Deaths:
910
Recovered:
3,324
Currently Infected
36,380
Serious or Critical
6,494
(18%)
Mild Condition
29,886
(82%)
Cases with Outcome
4,234
Recovered/Discharged
3,324
(79%)
Deaths
910
(21%)




The charts above show the cumulative total at the close of the Feb. 9 at GMT+0 midnight time and don't include Feb. 10 count while still in progress. We will publish statistics on severe and recovered cases in the coming days.
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Updated section: Coronavirus Mortality Rate.
Confirmed Cases and Deaths by Country and Territory
The novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV) is affecting 28 countries and territories around the world. Dates below are based on GMT+0. We will start displaying the daily change count for Feb. 10 once Feb. 9 ends in Pacific Time.

The bulk of China's new cases and deaths are reported at about 22:00 GMT (5:00 PM ET) for Hubei, and at 00:00 GMT (7:00 PM ET).

Search:

Country,
Territory

Total Cases
Feb 9
Cases
Total
Deaths
Feb 9
Deaths
Total
Recovered
Total
Severe
Region
China40,171+2,973908+973,2806,484Asia
Japan156+674Asia
Singapore43+366Asia
Hong Kong36+101Asia
Thailand32101Asia
S. Korea27+33Asia
Taiwan18+11Asia
Malaysia18+23Asia
Australia155Oceania
Vietnam14+13Asia
Germany14Europe
USA123N.America
France111Europe
Macao101Asia
U.A.E.7Asia
Canada7N.America
U.K.4+1Europe
Philippines312Asia
India3Asia
Italy32Europe
Russia2Europe
Spain2+1Europe
Cambodia11Asia
Finland11Europe
Nepal1Asia
Sweden1Europe
Sri Lanka11Asia
Belgium1Europe
TRANSMISSION RATE (Ro)
(estimated range)
3 - 4 (?)
(3- 4 newly infected from 1 case)
FATALITY RATE (CFR)
(WHO early estimate)
2% (?)
(more details)
INCUBATION PERIOD
(estimated)
2 - 14 days
(more details)
COUNTRIES AND TERRITORIES
(affected by 2019-nCoV)
28
(full list)
Latest Updates

February 10:

  • 60 new cases in Japan on the “Diamond Princess” cruise ship. Total on ship quarantined in Japanese waters: 130 cases. Rest of Japan: 26 cases.
February 9:

February 8:

February 7:

February 6:
  • 2 new cases in Canada (British Columbia): a man and a woman in their 30s. The man displayed only mild symptoms. Health officials said that young healthy people can have very mild symptoms that may manifest as a cold.
  • 1 new case in Italy: a 29-year-old Italian national repatriated from Wuhan with other 55 Italians. First case of coronavirus in an Italian national (the other two were Chinese tourists visiting Italy).
  • Death of Dr Li, the Chinese doctor who warned others to protect themselves, before being summoned and investigated by Chinese authorities for "making false comments" and "spreading rumors" denying the official story that only those who came into contact with infected animals could catch the virus.
  • 1 new case in England: a British national who contracted the virus from an Asian country other than China.
  • 1 new case in Germany (in Bavaria, bringing the total there to 11): the wife of an employee of the company from the district of Starnberg. Two of the couple's children also tested positive to the coronavirus.
  • 1 new case in Australia, a 37-year-old Chinese woman part of the tourist group that was placed in quarantine. This is the 5th case in Queensland. 4 other cases have been confirmed in Victoria, 4 in NSW and 2 in South Australia to date.
February 5:
February 4:
  • Japan has confirmed at least 10 cases of coronavirus from a cruise ship in the port of Yokohama near Tokyo. A 80-year-old Hong Kong man on the ship, who tested positive to the virus, infected a number of other people. Earlier on the day, Japanese authorities had quarantined some 3,700 passengers in an attempt to contain the virus from causing an outbreak.
  • 1 new case in Canada (second one in metro Vancouver): a woman in her 50s who had been hosting relatives from the Wuhan area
  • Four-year-old in Malaysia is the first case in the country to have recovered after being infected by the coronavirus.
China's National Health Commission (NHC) says that:
Other cases include:
Timeline:
  • On February 3, two new cases were reported in Germany, one is the children of a family already infected with the virus.
  • On February 2, doctors in Thailand said they discovered medical treatment that cured a patient of coronavirus ‘in 48 Hours’
  • On February 2, a death in the Philippines marked the first death occurring outside of China. It was a 44-year-old Chinese man from Wuhan who was admitted to the hospital on Jan. 25 with fever, cough, and sore throat, developed severe pneumonia but in the last few days “was stable and showed signs of improvement; however, the condition of the patient deteriorated within his last 24 hours resulting in his demise." reported the Philippine Department of Health.
  • On February 2, China shut down another major city as it closed roads and restricted the movement of residents in Wenzhou, a city with a population of 9 million that is located 800 km away from Wuhan, in Hubei province. The Zhejiang province, where Wenzhou is located, has the highest number of confirmed cases outside the Hubei province.
  • On February 1, the 8th case in the United States was reported (a male in his 20s, in Boston, MA).
  • On January 31, the first 2 novel coronavirus cases in the UK, [18] the first 2 cases in Russia, [20] and the first case in Sweden and in Spain were reported. Canada reported its 4th case.
  • On Jan. 31, the United States
    • declared Coronavirus a Public Health Emergency
    • issued 14 days quarantine rules for US citizens entering the US from China (mandatory if entering from the Hubei province).
    • issued an order to deny entry to foreigners who have traveled to China within the past two weeks.
  • On January 30, the novel coronavirus total case count surpassed that for SARS (which affected 8,096 people worldwide).
  • On January 30, the World Health Organization declared the coronavirus outbreak a Global Public Health Emergency.
  • On January 30 CDC confirmed the first US case of human to human transmission[17].
  • Germany, Japan, Vietnam and the United States have reported cases in patients who didn't personally visit China, but contracted the virus from someone else who had visited Wuhan, China[15]. These cases of human to human transmission are the most worrisome, according to the WHO[16].
  • Wuhan (the city where the virus originated) is the largest city in Central China, with a population of over 11 million people. The city, on January 23, shut down transport links. Following Wuhan lock down, the city of Huanggang was also placed in quarantine, and the city of Ezhou closed its train stations. This means than 18 million people have been placed in isolation. The World Health Organization (WHO) said cutting off a city as large as Wuhan is "unprecedented in public health history."[12] and praised China for its incredible commitment to isolate the virus and minimize the spread to other countries.
How dangerous is the virus?
There are three parameters to understand in order to assess the magnitude of the risk posed by this novel coronavirus:
How contagious is the Wuhan Coronavirus? (Ro)
The attack rate or transmissibility (how rapidly the disease spreads) of a virus is indicated by its reproductive number (Ro, pronounced R-nought or r-zero), which represents the average number of people who will catch the disease from a single infected person.
A more recent study is indicating a Ro as high as 4.08.[22]. This value substantially exceeds WHO's estimate (made on Jan. 23) of between 1.4 and 2.5[13], and is also higher than recent estimates between 3.6 and 4.0 and between 2.24 to 3.58 [23]. Preliminary studies had estimated Ro to be between 1.5 and 3.5 [5][6][7]
Based on these numbers, on average every case of the Novel Coronavirus would create 3 to 4 new cases.
An outbreak with a reproductive number of below 1 will gradually disappear.
For comparison, the Ro for the common flu is 1.3 and for SARS it was 2.0.
Fatality Rate (case fatality ratio or CFR) of the Wuhan Coronavirus
See full details: Wuhan Coronavirus Fatality Rate
The novel coronavirus' case fatality rate has been estimated at around 2%, in the WHO press conference held on January 29, 2020 [16] . However, it noted that, without knowing how many were infected, it was too early to be able to put a percentage on the mortality rate figure.
A prior estimate [9] had put that number at 3%.
Fatality rate can change as a virus can mutate, according to epidemiologists.
For comparison, the case fatality rate for SARS was 10%, and for MERS 34%.
Incubation Period (how long it takes for symptoms to appear)
See full details: Wuhan Coronavirus Incubation Period
Symptoms of the novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV) may appear in as few as 2 days or as long as 14 (estimated ranges vary from 2-10 days, 2-14 days, and 10-14 days, see details), during which the virus is contagious but the patient does not display any symptom (asymptomatic transmission).
Age and conditions of Coronavirus cases
According to China's National Health Commission (NHC), about 80% of those who died were over the age of 60 and 75% of them had pre-existing health conditions such as cardiovascular diseases and diabetes.[24]
According to the WHO Situation Report no. 7 issued on Jan. 27:
  • The median age of cases detected outside of China is 45 years, ranging from 2 to 74 years.
  • 71% of cases were male.
A study of 138 hospitalized patients with NCIP found that the median age was 56 years (interquartile range, 42-68; range, 22-92 years) and 75 (54.3%) were men.[25]
The WHO, in its Myth busters FAQs, addresses the question: "Does the new coronavirus affect older people, or are younger people also susceptible?" by answering that:
  • People of all ages can be infected by the new coronavirus (2019-nCoV).
  • Older people, and people with pre-existing medical conditions (such as asthma, diabetes, heart disease) appear to be more vulnerable to becoming severely ill with the virus.
Patient who died in the Philippines was a 44-year old male
The patient who died in the Philippines on February 2, in what was the first death occurring outside of China, was a 44-year-old Chinese man from Wuhan who was admitted on Jan. 25 after experiencing fever, cough, and sore throat, before developing severe pneumonia. In the last few days, “the patient was stable and showed signs of improvement, however, the condition of the patient deteriorated within his last 24 hours resulting in his demise." according to the Philippine Department of Health.Serious Cases of 30 year old patients in France
As of Jan. 29, according to French authorities, the conditions of the two earliest Paris cases had worsened and the patients were being treated in intensive care, according to French authorities. The patients have been described as a young couple aged 30 and 31 years old, both Chinese citizens from Wuhan who were asymptomatic when they arrived in Paris on January 18 [19].
Age and Sex of the first deaths as reported by the China National Health Commission (NHC)
The NHC reported the details of the first 17 deaths up to 24 pm on January 22, 2020. The deaths included 13 males and 4 females. The median age of the deaths was 75 (range 48-89) years.[21]
WHO Risk Assessment: Global Emergency
See full details: WHO coronavirus updates
On January 30, the World Health Organization declared the coronavirus outbreak a Global Public Health Emergency.
For more information from the WHO regarding novel coronavirus: WHO page on Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV)
Comparisons:

  • Every year an estimated 290,000 to 650,000 people die in the world due to complications from seasonal influenza (flu) viruses. This figure corresponds to 795 to 1,781 deaths per day due to the seasonal flu.
  • SARS (November 2002 to July 2003): was a coronavirus that originated from Beijing, China, spread to 29 countries, and resulted in 8,096 people infected with 774 deaths (fatality rate of 9.6%). Considering that SARS ended up infecting 5,237 people in mainland China, Wuhan Coronavirus surpassed SARS on January 29, 2020, when Chinese officials confirmed 5,974 cases of the novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV). One day later, on January 30, 2020 the novel coronavirus cases surpassed even the 8,096 cases worldwide which were the final SARS count in 2003.
  • MERS (in 2012) killed 858 people out of the 2,494 infected (fatality rate of 34.4%).
Novel Coronavirus Worldometer Sections:
 

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Hong Kong's medical services are on par with singkieland,,,and looking at the figures,..HK in general has 600k travellers moving between HK and ah tiong land per day. Singkieland has just flights and maybe cruise ships,,,and the rate of singkieland is higher than in HK....so what gives? Cannot be the detection rates are better than HK,,,HK is not indonland,,,and Vietnam has a lower rate of infection too...It can also mean that the infected is already circulating and its like a normal flu. not a big deal

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

WUHAN CORONAVIRUS OUTBREAK
Last updated: February 10, 2020, 06:35 GMT
Cases - Deaths - Countries - Death Rate - Transmission Rate - Incubation - Age
Coronavirus Cases:
40,614
of which 6,494
in serious/critical condition
Deaths:
910
Recovered:
3,324
Currently Infected
36,380
Serious or Critical
6,494
(18%)
Mild Condition
29,886
(82%)
Cases with Outcome
4,234
Recovered/Discharged
3,324
(79%)
Deaths
910
(21%)






The charts above show the cumulative total at the close of the Feb. 9 at GMT+0 midnight time and don't include Feb. 10 count while still in progress. We will publish statistics on severe and recovered cases in the coming days.
alert-plus.png
Updated section: Coronavirus Mortality Rate.
Confirmed Cases and Deaths by Country and Territory
The novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV) is affecting 28 countries and territories around the world. Dates below are based on GMT+0. We will start displaying the daily change count for Feb. 10 once Feb. 9 ends in Pacific Time.

The bulk of China's new cases and deaths are reported at about 22:00 GMT (5:00 PM ET) for Hubei, and at 00:00 GMT (7:00 PM ET).

Search:

Country,
Territory

Total Cases
Feb 9
Cases
Total
Deaths
Feb 9
Deaths
Total
Recovered
Total
Severe
Region
China40,171+2,973908+973,2806,484Asia
Japan156+674Asia
Singapore43+366Asia
Hong Kong36+101Asia
Thailand32101Asia
S. Korea27+33Asia
Taiwan18+11Asia
Malaysia18+23Asia
Australia155Oceania
Vietnam14+13Asia
Germany14Europe
USA123N.America
France111Europe
Macao101Asia
U.A.E.7Asia
Canada7N.America
U.K.4+1Europe
Philippines312Asia
India3Asia
Italy32Europe
Russia2Europe
Spain2+1Europe
Cambodia11Asia
Finland11Europe
Nepal1Asia
Sweden1Europe
Sri Lanka11Asia
Belgium1Europe
TRANSMISSION RATE (Ro)

(estimated range)
3 - 4 (?)
(3- 4 newly infected from 1 case)
FATALITY RATE (CFR)
(WHO early estimate)
2% (?)
(more details)
INCUBATION PERIOD
(estimated)
2 - 14 days
(more details)
COUNTRIES AND TERRITORIES
(affected by 2019-nCoV)
28
(full list)
Latest Updates

February 10:


  • 60 new cases in Japan on the “Diamond Princess” cruise ship. Total on ship quarantined in Japanese waters: 130 cases. Rest of Japan: 26 cases.
February 9:

February 8:

February 7:

February 6:
  • 2 new cases in Canada (British Columbia): a man and a woman in their 30s. The man displayed only mild symptoms. Health officials said that young healthy people can have very mild symptoms that may manifest as a cold.
  • 1 new case in Italy: a 29-year-old Italian national repatriated from Wuhan with other 55 Italians. First case of coronavirus in an Italian national (the other two were Chinese tourists visiting Italy).
  • Death of Dr Li, the Chinese doctor who warned others to protect themselves, before being summoned and investigated by Chinese authorities for "making false comments" and "spreading rumors" denying the official story that only those who came into contact with infected animals could catch the virus.
  • 1 new case in England: a British national who contracted the virus from an Asian country other than China.
  • 1 new case in Germany (in Bavaria, bringing the total there to 11): the wife of an employee of the company from the district of Starnberg. Two of the couple's children also tested positive to the coronavirus.
  • 1 new case in Australia, a 37-year-old Chinese woman part of the tourist group that was placed in quarantine. This is the 5th case in Queensland. 4 other cases have been confirmed in Victoria, 4 in NSW and 2 in South Australia to date.
February 5:
February 4:
  • Japan has confirmed at least 10 cases of coronavirus from a cruise ship in the port of Yokohama near Tokyo. A 80-year-old Hong Kong man on the ship, who tested positive to the virus, infected a number of other people. Earlier on the day, Japanese authorities had quarantined some 3,700 passengers in an attempt to contain the virus from causing an outbreak.
  • 1 new case in Canada (second one in metro Vancouver): a woman in her 50s who had been hosting relatives from the Wuhan area
  • Four-year-old in Malaysia is the first case in the country to have recovered after being infected by the coronavirus.
China's National Health Commission (NHC) says that:
Other cases include:
Timeline:
  • On February 3, two new cases were reported in Germany, one is the children of a family already infected with the virus.
  • On February 2, doctors in Thailand said they discovered medical treatment that cured a patient of coronavirus ‘in 48 Hours’
  • On February 2, a death in the Philippines marked the first death occurring outside of China. It was a 44-year-old Chinese man from Wuhan who was admitted to the hospital on Jan. 25 with fever, cough, and sore throat, developed severe pneumonia but in the last few days “was stable and showed signs of improvement; however, the condition of the patient deteriorated within his last 24 hours resulting in his demise." reported the Philippine Department of Health.
  • On February 2, China shut down another major city as it closed roads and restricted the movement of residents in Wenzhou, a city with a population of 9 million that is located 800 km away from Wuhan, in Hubei province. The Zhejiang province, where Wenzhou is located, has the highest number of confirmed cases outside the Hubei province.
  • On February 1, the 8th case in the United States was reported (a male in his 20s, in Boston, MA).
  • On January 31, the first 2 novel coronavirus cases in the UK, [18] the first 2 cases in Russia, [20] and the first case in Sweden and in Spain were reported. Canada reported its 4th case.
  • On Jan. 31, the United States
    • declared Coronavirus a Public Health Emergency
    • issued 14 days quarantine rules for US citizens entering the US from China (mandatory if entering from the Hubei province).
    • issued an order to deny entry to foreigners who have traveled to China within the past two weeks.
  • On January 30, the novel coronavirus total case count surpassed that for SARS (which affected 8,096 people worldwide).
  • On January 30, the World Health Organization declared the coronavirus outbreak a Global Public Health Emergency.
  • On January 30 CDC confirmed the first US case of human to human transmission[17].
  • Germany, Japan, Vietnam and the United States have reported cases in patients who didn't personally visit China, but contracted the virus from someone else who had visited Wuhan, China[15]. These cases of human to human transmission are the most worrisome, according to the WHO[16].
  • Wuhan (the city where the virus originated) is the largest city in Central China, with a population of over 11 million people. The city, on January 23, shut down transport links. Following Wuhan lock down, the city of Huanggang was also placed in quarantine, and the city of Ezhou closed its train stations. This means than 18 million people have been placed in isolation. The World Health Organization (WHO) said cutting off a city as large as Wuhan is "unprecedented in public health history."[12] and praised China for its incredible commitment to isolate the virus and minimize the spread to other countries.
How dangerous is the virus?
There are three parameters to understand in order to assess the magnitude of the risk posed by this novel coronavirus:

How contagious is the Wuhan Coronavirus? (Ro)
The attack rate or transmissibility (how rapidly the disease spreads) of a virus is indicated by its reproductive number (Ro, pronounced R-nought or r-zero), which represents the average number of people who will catch the disease from a single infected person.
A more recent study is indicating a Ro as high as 4.08.[22]. This value substantially exceeds WHO's estimate (made on Jan. 23) of between 1.4 and 2.5[13], and is also higher than recent estimates between 3.6 and 4.0 and between 2.24 to 3.58 [23]. Preliminary studies had estimated Ro to be between 1.5 and 3.5 [5][6][7]
Based on these numbers, on average every case of the Novel Coronavirus would create 3 to 4 new cases.
An outbreak with a reproductive number of below 1 will gradually disappear.
For comparison, the Ro for the common flu is 1.3 and for SARS it was 2.0.
Fatality Rate (case fatality ratio or CFR) of the Wuhan Coronavirus
See full details: Wuhan Coronavirus Fatality Rate
The novel coronavirus' case fatality rate has been estimated at around 2%, in the WHO press conference held on January 29, 2020 [16] . However, it noted that, without knowing how many were infected, it was too early to be able to put a percentage on the mortality rate figure.
A prior estimate [9] had put that number at 3%.
Fatality rate can change as a virus can mutate, according to epidemiologists.
For comparison, the case fatality rate for SARS was 10%, and for MERS 34%.
Incubation Period (how long it takes for symptoms to appear)
See full details: Wuhan Coronavirus Incubation Period
Symptoms of the novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV) may appear in as few as 2 days or as long as 14 (estimated ranges vary from 2-10 days, 2-14 days, and 10-14 days, see details), during which the virus is contagious but the patient does not display any symptom (asymptomatic transmission).
Age and conditions of Coronavirus cases
According to China's National Health Commission (NHC), about 80% of those who died were over the age of 60 and 75% of them had pre-existing health conditions such as cardiovascular diseases and diabetes.[24]
According to the WHO Situation Report no. 7 issued on Jan. 27:
  • The median age of cases detected outside of China is 45 years, ranging from 2 to 74 years.
  • 71% of cases were male.
A study of 138 hospitalized patients with NCIP found that the median age was 56 years (interquartile range, 42-68; range, 22-92 years) and 75 (54.3%) were men.[25]
The WHO, in its Myth busters FAQs, addresses the question: "Does the new coronavirus affect older people, or are younger people also susceptible?" by answering that:
  • People of all ages can be infected by the new coronavirus (2019-nCoV).
  • Older people, and people with pre-existing medical conditions (such as asthma, diabetes, heart disease) appear to be more vulnerable to becoming severely ill with the virus.
Patient who died in the Philippines was a 44-year old male
The patient who died in the Philippines on February 2, in what was the first death occurring outside of China, was a 44-year-old Chinese man from Wuhan who was admitted on Jan. 25 after experiencing fever, cough, and sore throat, before developing severe pneumonia. In the last few days, “the patient was stable and showed signs of improvement, however, the condition of the patient deteriorated within his last 24 hours resulting in his demise." according to the Philippine Department of Health.Serious Cases of 30 year old patients in France
As of Jan. 29, according to French authorities, the conditions of the two earliest Paris cases had worsened and the patients were being treated in intensive care, according to French authorities. The patients have been described as a young couple aged 30 and 31 years old, both Chinese citizens from Wuhan who were asymptomatic when they arrived in Paris on January 18 [19].
Age and Sex of the first deaths as reported by the China National Health Commission (NHC)
The NHC reported the details of the first 17 deaths up to 24 pm on January 22, 2020. The deaths included 13 males and 4 females. The median age of the deaths was 75 (range 48-89) years.[21]
WHO Risk Assessment: Global Emergency
See full details: WHO coronavirus updates
On January 30, the World Health Organization declared the coronavirus outbreak a Global Public Health Emergency.
For more information from the WHO regarding novel coronavirus: WHO page on Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV)

Comparisons:

  • Every year an estimated 290,000 to 650,000 people die in the world due to complications from seasonal influenza (flu) viruses. This figure corresponds to 795 to 1,781 deaths per day due to the seasonal flu.
  • SARS (November 2002 to July 2003): was a coronavirus that originated from Beijing, China, spread to 29 countries, and resulted in 8,096 people infected with 774 deaths (fatality rate of 9.6%). Considering that SARS ended up infecting 5,237 people in mainland China, Wuhan Coronavirus surpassed SARS on January 29, 2020, when Chinese officials confirmed 5,974 cases of the novel coronavirus (2019-nCoV). One day later, on January 30, 2020 the novel coronavirus cases surpassed even the 8,096 cases worldwide which were the final SARS count in 2003.
  • MERS (in 2012) killed 858 people out of the 2,494 infected (fatality rate of 34.4%).
Novel Coronavirus Worldometer Sections:

What gives is no one is asking these questions. I have been harping on it, as you can see with this thread. The oppo is not even mentioning it, and they are interviewing the fucker Thambyah who is mouthing platitudes. This whole fucking mess has made me understand the numbers within the numbers. The breakdown of the regions that these PRCs are from is not revealed by the PAP. This whole wuhan virus shit has made me realize that the high SES Chinese are not coming here. They are going to the major economic and financial hubs like Shanghai, Beijing, Guangzhou to make good money and be successful there. It turns out that we are getting the third class dregs of Chinese society from fucked provinces like Hubei, Shanxi, Shandong, etc. The chinese coming here are not urbanites from Beijing and Shanghai. They are not sophisticated big city dwellers, but rural trash. Huat ah.
 

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What gives is no one is asking these questions. I have been harping on it, as you can see with this thread. The oppo is not even mentioning it, and they are interviewing the fucker Thambyah who is mouthing platitudes. This whole fucking mess has made me understand the numbers within the numbers. The breakdown of the regions that these PRCs are from is not revealed by the PAP. This whole wuhan virus shit has made me realize that the high SES Chinese are not coming here. They are going to the major economic and financial hubs like Shanghai, Beijing, Guangzhou to make good money and be successful there. It turns out that we are getting the third class dregs of Chinese society from fucked provinces like Hubei, Shanxi, Shandong, etc. The chinese coming here are not urbanites from Beijing and Shanghai. They are not sophisticated big city dwellers, but rural trash. Huat ah.
Well said,,,the only ones asking these questions are Boss Sam and you,,most other post in this forum are just hate speech with regards to the PAP. and of course playing up the virus. One other question I will ask and I hope Boss Sam backs me up on this. Lets say if all this monitoring and reporting (Infected, death, recovery rates) etc is done for Influenza A and B. Will the same figures be the same or higher than the Wuhan virus? I heard ppl say,,got Wuhan virus patients in ICU,,,but there is patients in ICU for the flu,,so what gives? Guess common sense and practical thinking gets thrown out the window with regards to human herd behaviour
 

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Well said,,,the only ones asking these questions are Boss Sam and you,,most other post in this forum are just hate speech with regards to the PAP. and of course playing up the virus. One other question I will ask and I hope Boss Sam backs me up on this. Lets say if all this monitoring and reporting (Infected, death, recovery rates) etc is done for Influenza A and B. Will the same figures be the same or higher than the Wuhan virus? I heard ppl say,,got Wuhan virus patients in ICU,,,but there is patients in ICU for the flu,,so what gives? Guess common sense and practical thinking gets thrown out the window with regards to human herd behaviour

Well, you are comparing apples and oranges. Influenza A and B have been well diagnosed and known throughout the world, and treatment regimes are in place for them. As well, anti viral medications can be used against them. With the Wuhan virus, no one knows what it is and therefore, there is no known cure or treatment for it. The potential mortality rate could be astronomical. Having said this, I would not be surprised if there are already Wuhan virus deaths here covered up as Flu deaths. Just like deaths caused by the haze are covered up as respiratory deaths.
 

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Well, you are comparing apples and oranges. Influenza A and B have been well diagnosed and known throughout the world, and treatment regimes are in place for them. As well, anti viral medications can be used against them. With the Wuhan virus, no one knows what it is and therefore, there is no known cure or treatment for it. The potential mortality rate could be astronomical. Having said this, I would not be surprised if there are already Wuhan virus deaths here covered up as Flu deaths. Just like deaths caused by the haze are covered up as respiratory deaths.
Dude there is no cure for the flu,,and no cure for the Wuhan virus,,,how many of us have flu ever took antiviral medications? I have never taken antiviral for flu and flu hits me damn hard,,,,my point is if the fatality rate of the Wuhan virus is like sars or higher yes than can worry,,but Wuhan vs flu,,what the diff in infection rates and fatality rates?
 

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Dude there is no cure for the flu,,and no cure for the Wuhan virus,,,how many of us have flu ever took antiviral medications? I have never taken antiviral for flu and flu hits me damn hard,,,,my point is if the fatality rate of the Wuhan virus is like sars or higher yes than can worry,,but Wuhan vs flu,,what the diff in infection rates and fatality rates?

From mayo clinic website. Treatment for Influenza. Don't question me on this anymore, I hate to hold people's hands.

Treatment
Usually, you'll need nothing more than bed rest and plenty of fluids to treat the flu. But if you have severe infection or are at higher risk for complications, your doctor may prescribe an antiviral medication, such as oseltamivir (Tamiflu), zanamivir (Relenza), peramivir (Rapivab) or baloxavir (Xofluza). These drugs may shorten your illness by a day or so and help prevent serious complications.


Oseltamivir is an oral medication. Zanamivir is inhaled through a device similar to an asthma inhaler and shouldn't be used by anyone with certain chronic respiratory problems, such as asthma and lung disease.


Antiviral medication side effects may include nausea and vomiting. These side effects may be lessened if the drug is taken with food.


Most circulating strains of influenza have become resistant to amantadine and rimantadine (Flumadine), which are older antiviral drugs that are no longer recommended.
 

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From mayo clinic website. Treatment for Influenza. Don't question me on this anymore, I hate to hold people's hands.

Treatment
Usually, you'll need nothing more than bed rest and plenty of fluids to treat the flu. But if you have severe infection or are at higher risk for complications, your doctor may prescribe an antiviral medication, such as oseltamivir (Tamiflu), zanamivir (Relenza), peramivir (Rapivab) or baloxavir (Xofluza). These drugs may shorten your illness by a day or so and help prevent serious complications.


Oseltamivir is an oral medication. Zanamivir is inhaled through a device similar to an asthma inhaler and shouldn't be used by anyone with certain chronic respiratory problems, such as asthma and lung disease.


Antiviral medication side effects may include nausea and vomiting. These side effects may be lessened if the drug is taken with food.


Most circulating strains of influenza have become resistant to amantadine and rimantadine (Flumadine), which are older antiviral drugs that are no longer recommended.
So how is this different to the Wuhan virus? Antiviral shorten the illness by 1 day? that a big deal? still flu,,still same symptoms,,and probably given antibiotics and getting rests,,,flu also end up in ICU,,Wuhan virus also end up in ICU,,,and in tiongland its the flu season,,that is why Wuhan and flu spread fast,
 

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So how is this different to the Wuhan virus? Antiviral shorten the illness by 1 day? that a big deal? still flu,,still same symptoms,,and probably given antibiotics and getting rests,,,flu also end up in ICU,,Wuhan virus also end up in ICU,,,and in tiongland its the flu season,,that is why Wuhan and flu spread fast,

What are u talking about? If u are really sick with and someone offer to shorten your illness by one day, you will take it happily. Its different because these medications don't work on Wuhan. In fact, there is no medication for it. Did I not already say this? U are wasting my time.
 

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What are u talking about? If u are really sick with and someone offer to shorten your illness by one day, you will take it happily. Its different because these medications don't work on Wuhan. In fact, there is no medication for it. Did I not already say this? U are wasting my time.
And yet with this medication..more people die of the flu as compared to the Wuhan Virus,,,,and I am talking about why the panic about Wuhan virus and not the flu,,,
 

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This is not news, have known this for more than 10 years. :wink:

What gives is no one is asking these questions. I have been harping on it, as you can see with this thread. The oppo is not even mentioning it, and they are interviewing the fucker Thambyah who is mouthing platitudes. This whole fucking mess has made me understand the numbers within the numbers. The breakdown of the regions that these PRCs are from is not revealed by the PAP. This whole wuhan virus shit has made me realize that the high SES Chinese are not coming here. They are going to the major economic and financial hubs like Shanghai, Beijing, Guangzhou to make good money and be successful there. It turns out that we are getting the third class dregs of Chinese society from fucked provinces like Hubei, Shanxi, Shandong, etc. The chinese coming here are not urbanites from Beijing and Shanghai. They are not sophisticated big city dwellers, but rural trash. Huat ah.
 
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