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Why are Guys now carrying their GFs handbags for them?!

lolabunny

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You gotta be kidding right:eek::biggrin:

So what do you think about the apparent latest screen 'dreamboat' Rob Pattinson from Twilight?

Oh hey! I just googled and found the dude. He's not bad looking, only 22 and the lead of a hit show.

Well I also read that he finds Tina Fey hot. :wink::p See what I mean? Guys in their early to mid twenties are going for older women who are not trashy. He doesn't say that Lindsey Lohan or Paris Hilton is hot. :p

He goes for a great personality and possibly good character like my guy pals. :smile:

And that is why girls 18-35 years old who are SATC wannabes are left on the shelf.

And the good ones (like some of my friends) who are not married yet are dating younger men who appreciate them and don't give the same nonsense as the Mr Big alpha male types.

Seriously, if Mr Big made Carrie pay for him all the time and buy him branded bags, I think she'll run for the hills. :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

You think any of these women would stick to a guy if he wasn't rich? And by the way, it is lame for a guy to pay for this kind of women. It doesn't show that he's rich, it shows that he's a sucker. :p:p:wink::smile:
 

Porfirio Rubirosa

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I take it then you do not read Cosmo or the local Cosmo like stories in say HerWorld then eh?:biggrin::p

To be fair to SATC and the original print creator Candace, different facets of these women's characters appear to have been shown as the show progressed through the seasons notwithstanding their neuroses and insecurities. I think if you peeled away all the superficialities, what all 4 of them truly wanted at the end of the day was to love and be loved together with security that such love would perhaps provide. Isn't that what all women are looking for at the end of the day in a relationship with the opposite sex (or same sex considering preferences)?

Oh and another question if I may, what is it with women when they meet each other, why does it appear that they have to check each other out both looks wise/figure wise and fashion wise from head to toe?:rolleyes::biggrin:

Firstly, it depends on what kind of woman you are talking about. If you are talking about the average sinkie woman, to her, SATC is about branded bags, expensive shoes, dating rich men etc.

SATC doesn't apply to me even though I do love shoes. The women in the show are crazy!

For me, it was a showcase of warped relationship values, crazy idiotic men, even crazier women who definitely had the potential to make the show a long running one, given how warped their values were. If you mistake bad behaviour for alpha-male behaviour, the it's no wonder that you feel emotionally tortured.
 

Porfirio Rubirosa

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Ask Rob again in say another 5/10 years and let's see if he provides the same answer.:wink: Saying that I know where you are coming from, but generally speaking men are pretty much visceral first when they look at the other sex and then proceed further thereafter to consider other things. Goes back to human nature and procreation, the male needs to spread his 'seed':rolleyes::biggrin: That is why I believe males are really not meant to be monogamous, this is just the way society has evolved (I make no comment on females though).

As for the power and attraction of $$$ in a relationship, well I guess it can cut both ways really, I personally know of quite afew men who have married for that:wink:

Oh hey! I just googled and found the dude. He's not bad looking, only 22 and the lead of a hit show.

Well I also read that he finds Tina Fey hot. :wink::p See what I mean? Guys in their early to mid twenties are going for older women who are not trashy. He doesn't say that Lindsey Lohan or Paris Hilton is hot. :p

He goes for a great personality and possibly good character like my guy pals. :smile:

And that is why girls 18-35 years old who are SATC wannabes are left on the shelf.

And the good ones (like some of my friends) who are not married yet are dating younger men who appreciate them and don't give the same nonsense as the Mr Big alpha male types.

Seriously, if Mr Big made Carrie pay for him all the time and buy him branded bags, I think she'll run for the hills. :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

You think any of these women would stick to a guy if he wasn't rich? And by the way, it is lame for a guy to pay for this kind of women. It doesn't show that he's rich, it shows that he's a sucker. :p:p:wink::smile:
 

angry_one

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What's the problem? I carry my gf's bag all the time because it's heavy. She's kiasu and carries all kinds of stuff inside.

In return, she gives me BJs whenever I ask for them, sex in any position I want. She feeds me and peels prawns and crabs for me. She is tender and acts "xiao nu ren" to me.

It's a fair deal, I think. :biggrin:
 

lolabunny

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What's the problem? I carry my gf's bag all the time because it's heavy. She's kiasu and carries all kinds of stuff inside.

In return, she gives me BJs whenever I ask for them, sex in any position I want. She feeds me and peels prawns and crabs for me. She is tender and acts "xiao nu ren" to me.

It's a fair deal, I think. :biggrin:

Wah you are so sweet and your gf is so sweet. It's fair la. I think i expect my bf to open jam jars and pasta sauce bottles for me. I just don't have enough biceps for that. In return, I cook for him. :biggrin:
 

lolabunny

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I take it then you do not read Cosmo or the local Cosmo like stories in say HerWorld then eh?:biggrin::p

To be fair to SATC and the original print creator Candace, different facets of these women's characters appear to have been shown as the show progressed through the seasons notwithstanding their neuroses and insecurities. I think if you peeled away all the superficialities, what all 4 of them truly wanted at the end of the day was to love and be loved together with security that such love would perhaps provide. Isn't that what all women are looking for at the end of the day in a relationship with the opposite sex (or same sex considering preferences)?

Oh and another question if I may, what is it with women when they meet each other, why does it appear that they have to check each other out both looks wise/figure wise and fashion wise from head to toe?:rolleyes::biggrin:

No I actually read Vanity Fair and even Playboy for the great interviews. Her World is very very junk now. They were good (great advice and articles) till the mid-90s, then junk. I think they had to please their advertisers and also they got influenced by Vogue's editorial style. Anna Wintour, editor of Vogue is an advertiser pleaser, and unfortunately, this has made Vogue very trash over the years. They keep pushing pricey stuff. Worst still, I think it has shaped women's minds to be overly materialistic.

Another problem is, the influence of gays on media resources for women. This is not meant to be a gay bashing post, but look at SATC's creator who is a gay male, Darren Hayes I believe -- i don't think he understands all that encompasses woman, maybe just the urban facets. The non-family, non-married facet. Because that's where his understanding of women probably stops at.

I agree with you about what the four ladies really want, men want love and understanding too. What I'm saying is, that searching for real love non withstanding, they are quite neurotic and picky. In season one, Carrie finally met a normal guy. And then she searched his apartment when he was out for any clue's of perversion, or abnormality because she couldn't believe he was so nice and normal. THAT, is neurotic. That lack of trust and it's just plain bad manners. I wouldn't even search my boyfriend, or husband's stuff if he has a "forbidden area". This happened in the mid-90s, before all manners really went out of the window. In that context, it is crazy.

I think women check each other out because they are:
1. Curious
2. Insecure
3. Competitive or bitchy
4. Want to copy or compare

and they are frogs in the well.

I've worn pretty avarnt garde stuff out sometimes and for every 10 bitchy looks I got from a woman, I only got one admiring one. Btw, this was pointed out to me by a guy friend, I don't notice women looking at me.

This is ridiculous because most sinkaporean women dress alike. They think that if they show skin, they win. It is laughable because most have bad figures. I'm comparing them with Geylang girls of course, but this is matter of fact, given how competitive they are, they should be able to measure up to the pros (pun intended).

They aren't competition. PERIOD. I seldom see FL/WL quality girls out on the streets. Anywhere. Orchard, Bugis, Vivo. (YUCKS! According to my guy friends, not me) Even TCS stars on their off days pale in quality to most of the Lorong 8 girls.
 

lolabunny

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Ask Rob again in say another 5/10 years and let's see if he provides the same answer.:wink: Saying that I know where you are coming from, but generally speaking men are pretty much visceral first when they look at the other sex and then proceed further thereafter to consider other things. Goes back to human nature and procreation, the male needs to spread his 'seed':rolleyes::biggrin: That is why I believe males are really not meant to be monogamous, this is just the way society has evolved (I make no comment on females though).

As for the power and attraction of $$$ in a relationship, well I guess it can cut both ways really, I personally know of quite afew men who have married for that:wink:

Honestly I think females are even less likely to be monogamous. I read in Scientific American that 30-50% of children borne IN WEDLOCK, aren't the biological children of their mother's spouse, ie: their legal father.

This is in blind tests where 1000 women were sampled, though they weren't told what for. Obviously.

Going to human nature, given that men needs to spread his seed and women knowing that, this may be done by women in order to hedge their risk and improve the genetic quality of their offspring. :p

Brothers on the forum who have screwed other guys' gfs or wives will attest to the lack of fidelity on women's part. The scary thing is, women won't go on forums to brag or talk about it. They just do it. :smile:

Now the scariest thing is, at least men admit to that -- given the legal female sex worker industry. Women don't have that outlet when their hubbies pisses them off or make them feel insecure. Thus, they aren't always as faithful either. :p:wink: Oh dear huh?

You are right about guys being more visceral, but the younger generation of males tend to look beyond that, especially since the younger girls their age honestly aren't always more PHYSICALLY more attractive than older women.
Again I'm quoting my friends in their early 20s.

Perhaps it is higher education which has made males more intellectual and at the same time, the materialistic shallow mass media (for women like female mags) made females more vapid.

Men have always been intellect seekers, besides just being beauty seekers. There is evidence in history.

1. Courtesans are prized not just for looks and sexual ability and
2. Philosophy tended to thrive when society progressed.

These two factors mean that unlike your generation (I'm guessing from your posts), young men do not only go for looks. Of course, they still do, like all hot blooded males which brings us to the next point.

Thus in our economically progressed society, younger males tend to seek older females because they have more depth and thanks for advances in skin care or whatever else, the older females look better than the younger females who spent much time sun-tanning and eating junk food and shopping for branded items. If you just go to female outlets like Mango and Zara and Forever 21, the number of fat or ugly chicks outnumber the thin ones! You'd think that women who love to dress up will at least look after their face or figures, but hell no!! :rolleyes::cool:

Older men in their 40s-50s, look for SYT because they are either having a mid-life crisis, or to be fair, just looking for youth. But seriously, ceterus paribus, given the way the young girls are nowadays, the much older guy would get bored sooner or later. You could possibly discuss something intellectual with an SYT 10 years ago, but the only bona fide intellectual YT i know today is Gayle Goh and we know how looks aren't exactly her forte. (Sorry Gayle but you are a bright girl! :p)

As for Rob, your implication is that in 10 years time he would change his mind and go for a SYT. But in 10 years time, Lindsey Lohan would have drank and coked herself to death. As for Tina, let's say she married the old guy you were talking about and he's perpetually unfaithful. If she had to chuck an unfaithful old fart vs a lovely young punk who was also unfaithful, who do you think provided the better ride? (Pun unintended). :p

Like you said, some things cut both ways.
 

Maximuz

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I carry my gf's bag and whatever else all the time. Somehow I just love seeing her empty-handed, like as if she's all mine; unburdened and undistracted.

Its really nice to see a topic about one man's intense hatred for carrying handbags intellectualized into ruminations about rules of attraction, neuroses, alpha-hood, etc.

To throw in my inflation-adjusted 1.7 cents, let me quote a Zen story:

A man was standing on a mountain, gazing at the sky, when a group of travellers went by. Seeing the man, they stopped to ask, "Are you admiring the view?"
"No."
"Are you taking in the clear mountain air?"
"No."
"Are you waiting for someone?"
"No."
"Then what are you doing atop the mountain?"
The man replied, <b>like as if there shouldn't be any other reason</b>, "Because I'm here."
 

lolabunny

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I carry my gf's bag and whatever else all the time. Somehow I just love seeing her empty-handed, like as if she's all mine; unburdened and undistracted.

Its really nice to see a topic about one man's intense hatred for carrying handbags intellectualized into ruminations about rules of attraction, neuroses, alpha-hood, etc.

To throw in my inflation-adjusted 1.7 cents, let me quote a Zen story:

A man was standing on a mountain, gazing at the sky, when a group of travellers went by. Seeing the man, they stopped to ask, "Are you admiring the view?"
"No."
"Are you taking in the clear mountain air?"
"No."
"Are you waiting for someone?"
"No."
"Then what are you doing atop the mountain?"
The man replied, <b>like as if there shouldn't be any other reason</b>, "Because I'm here."

This is due to the Japanese language. He may have said "Kokoni Iru de" -- I am here (in existential tense, something unique to the language). :smile: There may not have been an actual "because", not that the equivalent of because doesn't exist in Jap. Just that in the reply, they needn't use it.

You can't say this in chinese, because you have to add a "yin wei" ie: "because". Even though chinese and japanese have similar syntax and you obviously can't say it in english without being grammatically incorrect.

Thus Zen originated in Japan, the land where language is existential due to the brevity of life -- for example, in the samurai era where death by seppuku is common in order to atone for mistakes. People die in their 20s and 30s.

Japs have to simplify things because their life was short. They never knew if they were going to get killed in a civil war, an earthquake or volcanic explosion.

Just some cultural asides to supplement your points.
 

silverfox@

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Majority of guys will think carrying a girl's bag is damn super sissy.

Most girls say they don't want their boyfriends to carry bags for them, however, they appreciate the additional help if offered or initiative taken.

Actually, it does not matter who does what for who and who. When girls say look at that guy so sissy carry bag for gf, actually inside their heart, they are jealous and if a guy carries their bag for them, they would be so happy.

And guys think very differently from women. Most women are impressed when they see a guy behaving gentlemanly. A guy may not notice, but others look at you from another angle.

In a relationship its give and take. You carry her bag, she peel prawns for you.

Another reason that why some women have saggy breasts very fast because of their bags. Carrying a (2-3kg or even more) bag on shoulders, their posture will make them hunch a bit and their breasts sagging faster. It's an article I read before. So if you guys don't want your gfs or future wives to have sagging breasts fast, offer to help them carry.
 

tonychat

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Oh pls lah sinkie, still trying to act intelligent and try to do a professor here with all bullshit theory here and there.

This is the type of behavior that cause the downfall of a country. and causes all ur countryman ass wack by the govt.
 

silverfox@

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Oh pls lah sinkie, still trying to act intelligent and try to do a professor here with all bullshit theory here and there.

This is the type of behavior that cause the downfall of a country. and causes all ur countryman ass wack by the govt.

You have thai passport boh, fake thai-eat-soft-rice pimp. Don't have thai passport, talk like yaya papaya. :rolleyes:
 

lolabunny

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Majority of guys will think carrying a girl's bag is damn super sissy.

Most girls say they don't want their boyfriends to carry bags for them, however, they appreciate the additional help if offered or initiative taken.

Actually, it does not matter who does what for who and who. When girls say look at that guy so sissy carry bag for gf, actually inside their heart, they are jealous and if a guy carries their bag for them, they would be so happy.

And guys think very differently from women. Most women are impressed when they see a guy behaving gentlemanly. A guy may not notice, but others look at you from another angle.

In a relationship its give and take. You carry her bag, she peel prawns for you.

Another reason that why some women have saggy breasts very fast because of their bags. Carrying a (2-3kg or even more) bag on shoulders, their posture will make them hunch a bit and their breasts sagging faster. It's an article I read before. So if you guys don't want your gfs or future wives to have sagging breasts fast, offer to help them carry.

It's not true that young girls only slouch when carrying big and heavy bags. It depends on the girl in question.

Actually saggy breasts are a result of the underwires in bras which are very common nowadays. 90% of all bras sold come with this, it's the easy way out to make boobs look bigger immediately. A quick check with any lingerie shop or departments in the stores will confirm this.

Pectoral muscles hold the boobs up and the underwire will make these muscles lazy. Without the underwire, the boobs of course won't look as good. But with constant long term use, boobs will sag as pectoral muscles won't pull their weight properly. Silverfox, you are right to point out that this type of slouching will make boobs sag faster.

Thus if guys don't want that, they have nag their gfs into NOT wearing underwire. This is easier said than done of course.

Why does this happen?

"Laziness. Carrying heavy bags and slouching is laziness. Wanting bigger looking boobs and deep cleavage instantly is laziness. Slouching is laziness."

The last part in quotes is quoting a guy. I think it sounds a bit draconian. :p
 

silverfox@

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Pectoral muscles hold the boobs up and the underwire will make these muscles lazy. Without the underwire, the boobs of course won't look as good. But with constant long term use, boobs will sag as pectoral muscles won't pull their weight properly. Silverfox, you are right to point out that this type of slouching will make boobs sag faster.


The last part in quotes is quoting a guy. I think it sounds a bit draconian. :p

Girls with big breasts, sometimes I pity them, because they tell me its heavy. We see its nice, but to them, they say its heavy. So that's why most of them slouch to ease the tiredness. But as time goes, it becomes a bad habit. I have seen girls in their mid 20s where breasts starting to sag.

The article on the bag is something which some other people have been writing on high heels, bags, etc. True or not, listen or not, i just relate. :p
 

tonychat

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still act like a professor as though you done a PHD in woman. Give me a break, i guess this is the only place that you can flaunt your fake IQ. no wonder you are stuck in your sinkieland.
 

lolabunny

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Girls with big breasts, sometimes I pity them, because they tell me its heavy. We see its nice, but to them, they say its heavy. So that's why most of them slouch to ease the tiredness. But as time goes, it becomes a bad habit. I have seen girls in their mid 20s where breasts starting to sag.

The article on the bag is something which some other people have been writing on high heels, bags, etc. True or not, listen or not, i just relate. :p

I think its true. Just that 2-3kg is really nothing much to slouch about. :p If it's heavier, i understand.
 

tonychat

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Sinkie woman, you got to learn more about men in order to keep them in your country and prevent them from running off. Try going to neighbouring country to get some tips from the woman there,

Then Singapore might have hope.

And pls, a person using so many nicks or share nick is a very tedious task to perform. Take it easy. ( this is not directed to you)
 
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