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Chitchat Why are Americans so mad at China

Sikodolaukazzz

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I know why.
Because Americans are jealous and think China is way ahead of them.

I was in China and it was not what I had imagined China to be after being brainwashed by the idiotic Western media.



Why are Americans MAD at China? (I Know Why)​




@linus63

I been to US & China, I can attest to everything Jason said in this video is true. America is in decline & crumbling.
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laksaboy

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Any shill or dunce can cherrypick CCP shill Youtuber content (who have the same crap on Weibo or Bilibili) to post here. :rolleyes:

Helping to steal the 2020 US presidential election and exporting fentanyl, these two alone are enough for a declaration of war. :whistling:

Enjoy the tariffs and sanctions. It's going to get worse when Trump becomes president again, and when European countries vote out the CCP-loving left wing politicians. :cool:
 

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America Is in Decline | Opinion

Published Apr 19, 2024 at 6:00 AM EDTUpdated Apr 22, 2024 at 7:28 PM EDT

A new Gallup poll showed that just 33 percent of Americans are satisfied with the nation's position in the world today. This is down from 65 percent in 2000. As Donald Trump and Joe Biden—two historically old and deeply unpopular presidential candidates—square off yet again for America's top job, it's not hard to understand these sentiments. America is in decline in the 21st century in measure after measure, from numerous public-policy failures, to increasingly dysfunctional politics, to an epidemic of mental health issues among young people.

This predicament raises two essential questions: Is America's downturn merely another dip in a long arc of non-linear, yet essentially upward, progress? Or is it, rather, the first phase of steep and irreversible national decline?

The answer lies with the American people. Like all nations, America is, above all, the hearts and minds of its people. And the trend line is moving hard in the wrong direction: Things are getting worse, not better. Tribalism is intensifying. Social-media platforms are getting smarter at manipulating human cognition. The political system's defects are worsening. And America's public-policy failures are deepening.

The remedies are easy to prescribe. We must improve civic education in schools, raise awareness about cognitive biases throughout society, spend more time with people from other political tribes, reduce and regulate the use of social media, rework the political structure to foster more political parties and equal representation, double down on free speech, feverishly guard election integrity, and support a new Republican champion other than Donald Trump.

Yet in practice these goals have been impossible to achieve.

Two broad and overlapping global trends will only make reversing the free-fall harder as the 21st century marches on. First, technology is getting more sophisticated—at a dizzying pace. The positives are huge. The internet democratizes education. Streaming innovations like Netflix enrich entertainment. New products like self-driving cars revolutionize transportation. Highly sophisticated research dramatically improves medicine. Pioneering technologies substantially broaden the distribution of necessities like food and clothing.

But the negatives are unnerving. Online innovations like deepfakes compound the internet's harms. Poor cybersecurity undermines the safety of personal data and the control of computerized systems. Popular applications like Chinese-owned TikTok give rival governments control over Americans' private information. Artificial intelligence (AI) jeopardizes humanity in ways neither clear nor certain. Industrial innovations like fracking plunder the environment. Battlefield inventions like drones change the face of warfare.

Second, international affairs are getting more complicated. It took America a full two centuries to achieve global hegemony—and merely two decades to lose it.

As former United States CIA Director and Defense Secretary Robert Gates wrote in a September 2023 Foreign Affairs essay, The Dysfunctional Superpower, geopolitical threats to America are multiplying: "The United States finds itself in a uniquely treacherous position: facing aggressive adversaries with a propensity to miscalculate yet incapable of mustering the unity and strength necessary to dissuade them."

https://www.newsweek.com/america-decline-opinion-1891415
 

superpower

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I know why.
Because Americans are jealous and think China is way ahead of them.
Satsri akal bro. Your message is lost on the legions of American cocksuckers camping here la... most of them have never ever lived outside Singapore (not to mention Lake Victoria), haven't even been to China or the States, and depend for their daily news on the wire reports in the Stooge Times or Western mainstream media.
 

superpower

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China is fine if you just want to do biz, mind your own biz and keep mouth shut.
That's what China was doing until the Americans started targeting all their key tech companies, slap tariffs and sanctions, and now threatens to weaponise the USD against it. Not to mention encircling China by putting bases all around its borders.
 

Sikodolaukazzz

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Any shill or dunce can cherrypick CCP shill Youtuber content (who have the same crap on Weibo or Bilibili) to post here. :rolleyes:

Helping to steal the 2020 US presidential election and exporting fentanyl, these two alone are enough for a declaration of war. :whistling:

Enjoy the tariffs and sanctions. It's going to get worse when Trump becomes president again, and when European countries vote out the CCP-loving left wing politicians. :cool:

And Tik Tok says President Wobbly is a China spy and agent of China
Plesiden Cuckooo


@riya8924

1 year ago

I feel bad for him. I think he seriously has some health issues. Maybe it's time he should leave his position and stay at home with his friends and family.
 

eatshitndie

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ccp tiongs are all over sillycon valley stealing tech and sneaking the theft back to tiongcock. so many ccp tiong engineers at supermicro and nvidia. the irony is once they make the big bucks with employee stock options they don’t want to go back but instead lead the double life of enjoying new found wealth in the valley and old money in stealing and passing tech to ccp.
 

laksaboy

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ccp tiongs are all over sillycon valley stealing tech and sneaking the theft back to tiongcock. so many ccp tiong engineers at supermicro and nvidia. the irony is once they make the big bucks with employee stock options they don’t want to go back but instead lead the double life of enjoying new found wealth in the valley and old money in stealing and passing tech to ccp.

China (PRC) has been a shitstain on the world since 1949. The foolish angmohs let it join the UN, turned a blind eye to Tiananmen, gave it Hong Kong, then let it join the WTO.

This is the culmination of a series of mistakes dealing with China.
 

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China Power | Economy | East Asia


The New Reality of Dealing With a China in Decline

By Collins Chong Yew Keat

June 07, 2024

The rise of China has changed the global landscape of power, forcing readjustments. Since the economic reform and opening up in 1978, its GDP has grown on average by 9 percent a year, allowing 800 million Chinese citizens to escape poverty.

Now, China’s rapid rise is slowing down and incumbent global powers that have dominated political, military, and economic spheres for decades are scrambling to respond.

The unprecedented Chinese ascendancy to global economic and military power — especially since its inclusion into the World Trade Organization in 2001 — led to confusion in responses by the West before the new wave of active competition and containment.

Determining whether the best is yet to come for China or whether it has peaked requires examining both empirical evidence and non-conventional historical precedents.

The fear is that China’s future power will dominate global foreign policy, leading to a new dichotomy of a China-led multipolarity and the perceived end of the West’s hegemonic grip. However, future prospects remain far from this.

Projections of China overtaking the United States as the largest economy in the world have also been made several times but have never come to fruition.

Nevertheless, China’s workforce has already peaked, based on official statistics. The labor supply in China will drop by about 7 percent from 2025 to 2050.

The International Monetary Fund examined a scenario in which the United States resorts to limiting its own technology trade with China and persuading others to follow suit. This scenario will result in the Chinese economy being about 9 percent smaller in a decade than it otherwise would be.

In the 1990s, the structural issues in China’s economy were quite clear to its leaders, and growth was too dependent on debt-fueled investment and insufficient consumption. But high average economic growth dwarfed those concerns.

With its economic slowdown and the shifting away from reforms, China’s economy showed signs of weakness even before the pandemic. Its working-age population has been dwindling for about a decade. Its population as a whole has peaked, and India has now overtaken it.

Efforts by the ruling Chinese Communist Party to encourage families to have more children have been futile. The masses of young workers who once filled “the world’s factory” are now gone.

More resources will have to be diverted for its growing elderly population. After years and decades of a public infrastructure and transportation boom, the returns are diminishing. President Xi Jinping’s growing autocratic tendencies have also caused local entrepreneurs to be more wary, stifling innovation and growth.

A regulatory crackdown on the tech sector and increased party control on the private sector further dragged down growth. With little progress to detach from a predominantly investment-led progress, priorities have turned to self-sufficiency and internal security.

Though some reforms have been implemented, they are overshadowed by heavy-handed intervention in critical domains of the economy, resulting in the outflow of capital that has forced the government to impose capital outflow restrictions.

China’s economic slowdown, aging population, high unemployment rate and the growing tang ping (lie flat) movement, where the young give up on chasing prosperity, have all exposed economic fault lines.

After four decades of extraordinary growth, China is confronted with deeper structural issues in its economy, hindering domestic consumption and investment. Xi has resorted to economic friend-shoring (concentrating supply chains within ally nations) and investment overture efforts in Europe and the United States.

Although there has been a recent upswing in its critical sectors including technology supremacy in artificial intelligence, 5G, and quantum computing, China’s old growth model is at its end and has yet to find a convincing alternate path. The exodus of top firms from China and the technology restrictions by the U.S. have further dampened prospects.

China’s semiconductor industry is growing but is nowhere as good and sophisticated as Taiwan’s or South Korea’s. Critically, China is still reliant on the West for trade, and the West can still dictate the outlook of the Chinese economy. Beijing’s biggest trading partners are the United States and the European Union.

The 2049 Chinese plan of “great rejuvenation” with a world-class military by 2035 remains the overall dream of the Chinese Communist Party, seen as the culmination of the “100-year marathon.” But power parity equations point to a hard fall for China, and it may already be on the path of decline.

This peaking power trap can create a more dangerous scenario for the United States in having to deal with a risen power fighting to avert decline. A weak China could be more dangerous, wary of economic strangulation as done to Japan by the U.S.

China might be compelled to passionately defend its rise by doubling down on its 2049 dream and Taiwan objectives. This could stoke risky nationalism at home in boosting regime security while sidestepping sluggish domestic socioeconomic prospects.

Even then, the U.S. still maintains an edge in proven military supremacy and real-time conflict experience besides forays into new warfare domains involving space and the cyber realm.

China’s authoritarian model has sometimes been defended as the most plausible alternative to the West. Yet, as political scientist Matthew Kroenig argues, democracies tend to excel in great power rivalries, having unique economic, diplomatic and military advantages in long-run geopolitical competitions.

Global military dominance is still a farfetched dream for Beijing. The question is who will give and take the first punch and whether it is done to prevent the decline of a risen power or to defend the status quo of an incumbent power.

China might find some comfort in the fruits of its regional economic leadership and maneuvers from the Belt and Road Initiative to the Regional Comprehensive Economic Partnership.

However, its own increasing assertiveness in claiming maritime rights as in the South China Sea coupled with the accompanying erosion of trust creates long-term policy wariness in the region.

Its partners might eventually be left longing for the status quo of a peaceful and stable rules-based order as is the international norm.

Originally published under Creative Commons by 360info™.

https://thediplomat.com/2024/06/the-new-reality-of-dealing-with-a-china-in-decline/
 

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The Chinese economy is going down. This also made a lot of Chinese businessman flee china. If the market is doing well, all these wealthy and rich people will actually stay on and made more money, sending more money out of the finance system from China. But here comes XJP, he made the decision to lead the fight against the USA for dominance of World's market. He tries to create his own version of G7. But all these poorer nation needed the market like china to market their product and bring in revenue to prop up their own economy. But china being the dominant world factory will not allow that to happen. China just wants to sell but refuse to import.

But Singapore is one of the beneficiary, and Singapore is only good for wealth hoarding. Singapore does not have the width and depth of the finance market offered by London or USA. But we are like Swiss, we have banking secrecy law. So these Chinese came and park their money. The money has to go somewhere, unfortunately it goes to the property.
 

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In terms of military might, china is still lagging behind in terms of technology, trained man and experience. USA has been fighting war after war.
Chinese as you might have heard is that they are sending their warship to the sea in record time.
But to train an effective navy to circle the globe projecting power and enter into conflict, it is a gigantic task. Carrier group without a well-trained crews to mend their battle stations and effective pilot with their aircraft to help defend the air space up there, and even push the danger out from at least 800 km from your battle group is a huge task. The carrier group might be wiped out in 45 minute if a full scale war and battle breaks out.

So those who think and have wet dream that china can take on America and reclaim Taiwan is just asking for the whole carrier group to be wipe out in record time.
If navy got wipe out, how does china going to defend their important military asset and how are they going to stop planes from flying into their inland and destroy all their valuable military asset.

Most importantly, if war breaks out. All the USD asset will be size from all the CCPs officer who has send their asset oveer to US. So tell me who is going to start the war for XJP ?
 

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ccp tiongs are all over sillycon valley stealing tech and sneaking the theft back to tiongcock. so many ccp tiong engineers at supermicro and nvidia. the irony is once they make the big bucks with employee stock options they don’t want to go back but instead lead the double life of enjoying new found wealth in the valley and old money in stealing and passing tech to ccp.
Brought the tech back to ShenZhen?
 

eatshitndie

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In terms of military might, china is still lagging behind in terms of technology, trained man and experience. USA has been fighting war after war.
Chinese as you might have heard is that they are sending their warship to the sea in record time.
But to train an effective navy to circle the globe projecting power and enter into conflict, it is a gigantic task. Carrier group without a well-trained crews to mend their battle stations and effective pilot with their aircraft to help defend the air space up there, and even push the danger out from at least 800 km from your battle group is a huge task. The carrier group might be wiped out in 45 minute if a full scale war and battle breaks out.

So those who think and have wet dream that china can take on America and reclaim Taiwan is just asking for the whole carrier group to be wipe out in record time.
If navy got wipe out, how does china going to defend their important military asset and how are they going to stop planes from flying into their inland and destroy all their valuable military asset.

Most importantly, if war breaks out. All the USD asset will be size from all the CCPs officer who has send their asset oveer to US. So tell me who is going to start the war for XJP ?
history may repeat. chinks under the qing built and procured a navy (from germany) to confront the british. brits had a century of hard fought naval war sexperience before developing dreadnought battleships. the qing with a “brand new” ironclad navy albeit old steam warships from germany had no chance against the brits. so qing confronted the japs which were relying on the brits to modernize their navy. japs learned and copied from the brits but improved naval tactics on their own. they also fought a victorious naval battle against the russians. in the first sino-jap war the jap navy embarassed the qing chinks at sea and took over many islands including formosa (tw). a non fully trained not fully equipped and inexperienced navy is like a parade force. good for show but bad for war.
 

eatshitndie

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Brought the tech back to ShenZhen?
deliver them to beijing first with the ipr and or source code at the ccp’s industrial espionage hq then any city that has facilities and labs to tear down stolen and us-purchased products (chips and motherboards) to do reverse engineering. huawei, zte, new state sponsored semiconductor fabs have facilities to do it.
 

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That's what China was doing until the Americans started targeting all their key tech companies, slap tariffs and sanctions, and now threatens to weaponise the USD against it. Not to mention encircling China by putting bases all around its borders.
US china relations was ok until xi jinping took over and started hostile manoeuvres in east china and south china sea. Threatening neighbours and international maritime route.
 
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