Chitchat Why are Americans so mad at China

[eatshitndie]

US china relations was ok until xi jinping took over and started hostile manoeuvres in east china and south china sea. Threatening neighbours and international maritime route.

he has to otherwise kena coup by pla hardliners.

 

[Sikodolaukazzz]

US china relations was ok until xi jinping took over and started hostile manoeuvres in east china and south china sea. Threatening neighbours and international maritime route.

Aiyah China has to go to South China sea wohh.
If China go to Yindian Ocean also comprain.
If China go to Atlantic Ocean oso comprain.
Now China go to South China sea oso comprain.
comprain comprain comprain
Who comprain
USA and the Colonials.
Anwar no comprain

Malaysian PM Says China a ‘True Friend’ and Not to be Feared as Chinese Premier Ends Visit​

As China’s Li Qiang wrapped up his visit, Prime Minister Anwar Ibrahim dismissed concerns that Beijing sought to “abuse its privilege and extort” Malaysia.



https://thediplomat.com/2024/06/mal...t-to-be-feared-as-chinese-premier-ends-visit/

 

[congo9]

deliver them to beijing first with the ipr and or source code at the ccp’s industrial espionage hq then any city that has facilities and labs to tear down stolen and us-purchased products (chips and motherboards) to do reverse engineering. huawei, zte, new state sponsored semiconductor fabs have facilities to do it.

Chips itself is very very hard and expensive to reversed engineer.

You need time to get your yield rate up. You need specialized machine.

 

[congo9]

https://www.businesstimes.com.sg/property/chinas-property-sales-outlook-worse-ratings-firms-expected


China economic going through a tough time

 

[eatshitndie]

Chips itself is very very hard and expensive to reversed engineer.

You need time to get your yield rate up. You need specialized machine.

ccp spies have been spotted and unfortunately hired at kla-tencor which makes wafer fab machines for tsmc. they’re all over sillycon valley and some say taiwan too.

 

[syed putra]

Aiyah China has to go to South China sea wohh.
If China go to Yindian Ocean also comprain.
If China go to Atlantic Ocean oso comprain.
Now China go to South China sea oso comprain.
comprain comprain comprain
Who comprain
USA and the Colonials.
Anwar no comprain

Malaysian PM Says China a ‘True Friend’ and Not to be Feared as Chinese Premier Ends Visit​

As China’s Li Qiang wrapped up his visit, Prime Minister Anwar Ibrahim dismissed concerns that Beijing sought to “abuse its privilege and extort” Malaysia.



https://thediplomat.com/2024/06/mal...t-to-be-feared-as-chinese-premier-ends-visit/

Malaysia already got its south china sea claim covered eith oul and gas exploration all the way to vietnam maritime border. So its not really that worried.

 

[superpower]

Hello Petroyuan, goodbye Petrodollar!

Consider the example of China-Saudi Arabia trade, which is about $100 billion a year. Right now, as shown in the chart below, China imports $65 billion of Saudi goods in USD, and Saudi Arabia imports $35 billion of Chinese goods in USD. Here, a total of $100 billion is required for bilateral trade.

Now, imagine if China pays Saudi Arabia in yuan and dollar. What will Saudi Arabia do with the yuan? Buy Chinese goods, of course. Thus, the yuan is recycled, and it’s a win-win situation.

If you remember that China is the #1 trade partner for about 130 countries, the repercussions of gradual de-dollarization in trade will have significant effects, including reduction in the amount of the dollar held in foreign exchange reserves.

In fact, the concept of FOREX will become less relevant as countries increasingly trade in local currencies.

Internationalization of Yuan - More Examples

There are many other tools to boost the internationalization of yuan. For example:

• China’s central bank (PBOC) has bilateral currency swap agreements with more than 40 countries and regions.

• There are 30+ yuan-clearing banks in 20+ countries to facilitate trade in RMB.

• CIPS – a potential alternative to SWIFT – was introduced in 2015 and now has 1300+ participants from 100+ countries.

• Foreign companies and governments are borrowing in yuan through the so-called (onshore) panda bonds and (offshore) dim sum bonds.

Digital RMB

Moving forward, digital currency-based systems will become more popular, as evidenced by the China-led mBridge project, which has Saudi Arabia and the UAE as members. This will allow countries to totally circumvent the US dollar, while increasing efficiency and reducing the cost of transactions. In the near future, Chinese e-commerce behemoths like Tencent, AliExpress, Shein and Temu will be using mBridge to serve customers all over the world.

Silk Road enables Chinese Yuan

Finally, let’s not forget the Belt and Road Initiative, the largest infrastructure and development project in human history. Loans in yuan can be used to build highways, railways, seaports, 5G network and so on.

Conclusion

China will continue opening up its financial sector. And Western financial firms are eagerly waiting to tap the abundant savings of Chinese families. One day, Shanghai will rival Wall Street and London, but it must be done gradually and prudently to avoid the traps of casino capitalism that has ruined the American economy. A modern financial system with Chinese characteristics is on the way. Get ready for exciting times.

 

[Sikodolaukazzz]

Hello Petroyuan, goodbye Petrodollar!

Consider the example of China-Saudi Arabia trade, which is about $100 billion a year. Right now, as shown in the chart below, China imports $65 billion of Saudi goods in USD, and Saudi Arabia imports $35 billion of Chinese goods in USD. Here, a total of $100 billion is required for bilateral trade.

Now, imagine if China pays Saudi Arabia in yuan and dollar. What will Saudi Arabia do with the yuan? Buy Chinese goods, of course. Thus, the yuan is recycled, and it’s a win-win situation.

If you remember that China is the #1 trade partner for about 130 countries, the repercussions of gradual de-dollarization in trade will have significant effects, including reduction in the amount of the dollar held in foreign exchange reserves.

In fact, the concept of FOREX will become less relevant as countries increasingly trade in local currencies.

Internationalization of Yuan - More Examples

There are many other tools to boost the internationalization of yuan. For example:

• China’s central bank (PBOC) has bilateral currency swap agreements with more than 40 countries and regions.

• There are 30+ yuan-clearing banks in 20+ countries to facilitate trade in RMB.

• CIPS – a potential alternative to SWIFT – was introduced in 2015 and now has 1300+ participants from 100+ countries.

• Foreign companies and governments are borrowing in yuan through the so-called (onshore) panda bonds and (offshore) dim sum bonds.

Digital RMB

Moving forward, digital currency-based systems will become more popular, as evidenced by the China-led mBridge project, which has Saudi Arabia and the UAE as members. This will allow countries to totally circumvent the US dollar, while increasing efficiency and reducing the cost of transactions. In the near future, Chinese e-commerce behemoths like Tencent, AliExpress, Shein and Temu will be using mBridge to serve customers all over the world.

Silk Road enables Chinese Yuan

Finally, let’s not forget the Belt and Road Initiative, the largest infrastructure and development project in human history. Loans in yuan can be used to build highways, railways, seaports, 5G network and so on.

Conclusion

China will continue opening up its financial sector. And Western financial firms are eagerly waiting to tap the abundant savings of Chinese families. One day, Shanghai will rival Wall Street and London, but it must be done gradually and prudently to avoid the traps of casino capitalism that has ruined the American economy. A modern financial system with Chinese characteristics is on the way. Get ready for exciting times.

No one can pleedict the future but I will place my bets on China being the next No. 1.
USA is a declining empire like what you read in history books of the long gone powerful nations.
England once the Superpower is now a relic in the history books.
And the much hyped by the Western world - Yindia - to counter China - can only dream of being a Suupprrrraaaaaaa Pooowberrrrrrrrrr.

 

[syed putra]

Hello Petroyuan, goodbye Petrodollar!

Consider the example of China-Saudi Arabia trade, which is about $100 billion a year. Right now, as shown in the chart below, China imports $65 billion of Saudi goods in USD, and Saudi Arabia imports $35 billion of Chinese goods in USD. Here, a total of $100 billion is required for bilateral trade.

Now, imagine if China pays Saudi Arabia in yuan and dollar. What will Saudi Arabia do with the yuan? Buy Chinese goods, of course. Thus, the yuan is recycled, and it’s a win-win situation.

If you remember that China is the #1 trade partner for about 130 countries, the repercussions of gradual de-dollarization in trade will have significant effects, including reduction in the amount of the dollar held in foreign exchange reserves.

In fact, the concept of FOREX will become less relevant as countries increasingly trade in local currencies.

Internationalization of Yuan - More Examples

There are many other tools to boost the internationalization of yuan. For example:

• China’s central bank (PBOC) has bilateral currency swap agreements with more than 40 countries and regions.

• There are 30+ yuan-clearing banks in 20+ countries to facilitate trade in RMB.

• CIPS – a potential alternative to SWIFT – was introduced in 2015 and now has 1300+ participants from 100+ countries.

• Foreign companies and governments are borrowing in yuan through the so-called (onshore) panda bonds and (offshore) dim sum bonds.

Digital RMB

Moving forward, digital currency-based systems will become more popular, as evidenced by the China-led mBridge project, which has Saudi Arabia and the UAE as members. This will allow countries to totally circumvent the US dollar, while increasing efficiency and reducing the cost of transactions. In the near future, Chinese e-commerce behemoths like Tencent, AliExpress, Shein and Temu will be using mBridge to serve customers all over the world.

Silk Road enables Chinese Yuan

Finally, let’s not forget the Belt and Road Initiative, the largest infrastructure and development project in human history. Loans in yuan can be used to build highways, railways, seaports, 5G network and so on.

Conclusion

China will continue opening up its financial sector. And Western financial firms are eagerly waiting to tap the abundant savings of Chinese families. One day, Shanghai will rival Wall Street and London, but it must be done gradually and prudently to avoid the traps of casino capitalism that has ruined the American economy. A modern financial system with Chinese characteristics is on the way. Get ready for exciting times.

The usage of yuan will Be organic. Biggest buyer of commodity dictates currency usage.
In China's case, as you mentioned, yuan can be used to purchase china products which is comprehensive.
US has a history of not tolerating rivals. Even if that rival happens to be a ally.
It started with Brits for independence. Then the Spanish for control of north America.
Today it's Europe and china. Both equal in economic strength as the US and if Europe had cooperated with Russia, in military and technical might as well.

 

[k1976]

I know why.
Because Americans are jealous and think China is way ahead of them.

I was in China and it was not what I had imagined China to be after being brainwashed by the idiotic Western media.

Why are Americans MAD at China? (I Know Why)​

@linus63​

I been to US & China, I can attest to everything Jason said in this video is true. America is in decline & crumbling.

Murika infrastruture is build in 1970s....Tiongkok ones are build in 2000 mah

 

[k1976]

Key word ish Next and How many years?

No one can pleedict the future but I will place my bets on China being the next No. 1.
USA is a declining empire like what you read in history books of the long gone powerful nations.
England once the Superpower is now a relic in the history books.
And the much hyped by the Western world - Yindia - to counter China - can only dream of being a Suupprrrraaaaaaa Pooowberrrrrrrrrr.

 

[k1976]

The usage of yuan will Be organic. Biggest buyer of commodity dictates currency usage.
In China's case, as you mentioned, yuan can be used to purchase china products which is comprehensive.
US has a history of not tolerating rivals. Even if that rival happens to be a ally.
It started with Brits for independence. Then the Spanish for control of north America.
Today it's Europe and china. Both equal in economic strength as the US and if Europe had cooperated with Russia, in military and technical might as well.

US has start to new drill on its soil for first time in many years...US oil volume is expected to rocket

 

[superpower]

Murika infrastruture is build in 1970s....Tiongkok ones are build in 2000 mah

The truth is that America has been spending so much money on weapons and fighting wars that they have totally neglected their infrastructure development in the past 2 decades. Not to mention investment in human capital - health care, education, social welfare.

 

[k1976]

The truth is that America has been spending so much money on weapons and fighting wars that they have totally neglected their infrastructure development in the past 2 decades. Not to mention investment in human capital - health care, education, social welfare.

Forever war is benefitial to Military Complex aka Deep State

 

[k1976]

The truth is that America has been spending so much money on weapons and fighting wars that they have totally neglected their infrastructure development in the past 2 decades. Not to mention investment in human capital - health care, education, social welfare.

No need to investt in human capital, there is a beelines of talents queue up for Green Card.

U die ish one less mouth to feed

 

[Sikodolaukazzz]

Malaysia already got its south china sea claim covered eith oul and gas exploration all the way to vietnam maritime border. So its not really that worried.

When I go to China everyone is very polite.
When I go to Malaysia everyone is also very polite.
When I go to Singapore everyone is also very polite.
I even commended the staff at these places a few times for being excellent. Maybe LKY policies at work.
lol

But when I go to some Western airports I get hauled up to the side and even taken to a room on suspicion of being a terrorist.
Has anyone experienced that?
Maybe they are jealous that I am very good looking.
lol

 

[superpower]

Finally, some voices of reason and sanity...

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U.S. intellectuals speak out against Asia war​

BY NURY VITTACHIMARCH 10, 2023

TOP INTELLECTUALS IN THE U.S. stood up this week to speak out for China—and demand a stop to the powerful militaristic country’s drive to start an unnecessary war in East Asia.

The White House claim this week that they did not want conflict with China is “Denial and information distortion bordering on propaganda,” said Stephen Roach, Yale University professor and former chief economist at Morgan Stanley. The untrue statement was “classic Cold War posturing”, he said in statement on Twitter on Thursday.

Others agreed. Falsely painting the Chinese as trying to take over the world is bad for everyone, writer David Rothkopf argued in a Daily Beast essay printed today. Why paint China as a threat?

“Why? Why is it such a great threat even though the country has no history of conquest beyond its region in 5,000 years of history and is far from being able or inclined to pose a direct threat of attack to the U.S.?” he asked.

Even the relentlessly hostile Financial Times printed a column by Edward Luce admitting that the current geopolitical tension in the world did not come from China, but from the U.S.

“This week, Xi Jinping went further than before in naming America as the force behind the ‘containment’, ‘encirclement’ and ‘suppression’ of China. Though his rhetoric was provocative, it was not technically wrong,” wrote Luce in a column on Wednesday. Luce, like most FT writers, normally takes a very hostile line against China.

INTELLIGENCE CHIEF WARNING

On the other side, America’s Director of National Intelligence Avril Haines tried to justify the U.S. stance. She said the U.S. was working against China because the giant country is “increasingly challenging the United States economically, technologically, politically, and militarily around the world”.

She said the goal of the Chinese was to “continue efforts to achieve [President] Xi’s vision of making China the preeminent power in East Asia and a major power on the world stage.”

But Rothkopf responded to Haines’ statement by stating the obvious: so? What else would anyone expect?

“Is there something inherently wrong or dangerous about China seeking to challenge the United States economically, technologically, or politically? Isn’t that what all nations do? Don’t we believe in the inherent superiority of our system? Don’t we believe in the benefits of competition? (I thought that was fundamental to America’s national identity and values.)”

He further pointed out that “all nations seek to have sufficient power that they cannot be bullied by global hegemons (and let’s be realistic, we’re the only global hegemon in this conversation at the moment)”.

In other words, China is taking a tougher stance because the strutting, might-is-right stance that the U.S. takes, has forced it to do so.

COLD WAR

While a belligerent U.S. tries to recreate the old script of the Cold War against Russia, there’s a marked difference between the Soviets and the Chinese, Edward Luce pointed out: “China is not exporting revolution.”

The U.S. justified its hostility to the Soviet Union by saying it was spreading communism, but the Chinese are not spreading their system anywhere.

PUBLIC AGREEMENT

There was a strong outbreak of voices on social media agreeing with these points.

Nobody can believe the White House claim that they are not trying to create war, numerous voices said. “We just send warships and war planes to China’s territorial waters in the friendliest of ways,” was the sarcastic response of Alfonso Araujo.

Stephen Roach’s claim that the White House position was “bordering on propaganda” was “too kind”, said Brenda Teese.

“Biden talks about competition, but what he does is zero-sum and hostile behavior,” said Spencer Du. “China has not yet intended to take the U.S. as its enemy but has begun to take the actions of the U.S. as hostile.”

“If the U.S. cannot acknowledge the legitimacy of the P.R.C. to rule China, then the U.S. is essentially agitating for a war,” said Professor Gregory Herczeg this morning.

BUSINESS COMMUNITY HAS A DIFFERENT VIEW

The U.S. political response was markedly different from the point of view of ordinary people and the business community.

There are more than 70,000 U.S. companies operating in China, David Rothkopf pointed out. The two powerful nations are already strongly intertwined in a positive way – so why ruin this?

The justification for hostility against China is crude allegations that the country “destroyed” Hong Kong and “genocided” the Uyghur population of Xinjiang, but neither narrative remotely reflects the more complex reality. Now the U.S. is making use of Taiwan.

TAIWAN JUST AN EXCUSE

“The problem with the current apparent decision to treat China as an enemy and an existential threat is that it can lead to distorted views on certain issues—such as Taiwan,” Rothkopf says.

“Let’s be real for a moment. What really bothers us about China’s rise is that they are quite open about the fact that they want to challenge our influence in the world. We want to be No. 1. We don’t like being challenged,” he wrote.

Luce agreed that America actively looks for excuses to create negativity. “If Taiwan did not exist, would the U.S. and China still be at loggerheads? My hunch is yes,” he wrote.

The American administration is taking an unnecessarily harsh stance against China’s peaceful rise in its neighborhood, Rothkopf argued. “But isn’t it reasonable for China to want such influence?” he asked.

“After all, throughout world history until the start of the industrial revolution, China had the world’s largest economy and it is now resuming that role.”

https://fridayeveryday.com/u-s-intellectuals-speak-out-against-asia-war/

 

[k1976]

The best way to defeat Tiongkok is to let it mis-step just like Germany in 1914 and 1939...u neeed to throw in some Push Factors and Pull Factors + some simple mean to becum overconfident.

But for some unknown reason, Ukraine war drag longer than required. This becum a strong alarm bell for Tiongkok to rethink their 战狼mindset

 

[superpower]

The best way to defeat Tiongkok is to let it mis-step just like Germany in 1914 and 1939...u neeed to throw in some Push Factors and Pull Factors + some simple mean to becum overconfident.

But for some unknown reason, Ukraine war drag longer than required. This becum a strong alarm bell for Tiongkok to rethink their 战狼mindset

The Ukraine war is a warning to China not to start unnecessary wars that may drag on and on and sap your finances and economy. Xi has a higher IQ than Putin, and is not so easily swayed by emotions.

Right now, it's the US that's agitating for war, not China.

 

[KuanTi01]

The USA thinks it is God's Chosen country; biggest strongest richest and holiest! Preaching its values to everyone on Earth !