Chitchat What happened in Saudi Arabia in the last 3 days ?

gatehousethetinkertailor · Dec 21, 2017

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gatehousethetinkertailor · Dec 21, 2017

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JohnTan · Dec 21, 2017

Over a thousand years ago, Arabs overran Persia, enslaved many persians, wiped out their local customs and religions and forced persians to denounce their own faith and adopt Islam. I don't see why the Saudis can't do that again. Years from now, the new generation of persians would denounce the ayatollah and their twisted version of islam which they call as shia islam.

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whoami · Dec 21, 2017

JohnTan said:
Over a thousand years ago, Arabs overran Persia, enslaved many persians, wiped out their local customs and religions and forced persians to denounce their own faith and adopt Islam. I don't see why the Saudis can't do that again. Years from now, the new generation of persians would denounce the ayatollah and their twisted version of islam which they call as shia islam.

U not even a God fearing creature. What u know abt islam was fm social media. Not every Sunni Muslims rejected Shia. To me so long they worship Allah swt and accept prophet Muhammad pbuh as the Messenger, they are Muslims. Doesnt matter which mashab they belong. Now JT u crawl back to MIW and go worship them as ur Master.

JohnTan · Dec 21, 2017

whoami said:
U not even a God fearing creature. What u know abt islam was fm social media. Not every Sunni Muslims rejected Shia. To me so long they worship Allah swt and accept prophet Muhammad pbuh as the Messenger, they are Muslims. Doesnt matter which mashab they belong. Now JT u crawl back to MIW and go worship them as ur Master.

I've never in my life met a single muslim who was "god fearing", whatever the fuck that means.

Every single muslim I met displays a near or complete indifference to the following:
- muslim mobs regularly burning and looting of churches and temples
- kidnapping and forced conversion of hindus and christian minorities
- sexual grooming of girls, usually non-muslim
- outright support and sympathy for terrorists and muslim mobs simply because they are fellow muslims
- muslims carrying out genocide of non-muslims or fellow muslims in places like Yemen or Papua New Guinea
- institutional discrimination against non-muslims for being non-muslims

Never met a single muslim who was 'god fearing' and fair. The only thing I know muslims are genuinely afraid of is pigs and pork related products.

72 virgins in paradise? How stupid are you to believe in such garbage?

scroobal · Dec 21, 2017

Religion may have created schisms, cults or sects but current issue is pretty much politically driven. There is a need to hang to power and influence geography wise. None of the players the including Israel is interested or driven by religious motives. But the political leaders use religion to get support from ignorant and illiterate idiots that make up their respective constituents subjects.

Netanyahu holds US citizenship and he raised his family there for some years. MBS spends summer months In France and Europe. Emiratis prefer Germany, and it goes n and on.

72 virgins, good fearing etc has no place in any serious discussion.

JohnTan · Dec 21, 2017

scroobal said:
Religion may have created schisms, cults or sects but current issue is pretty much politically driven. There is a need to hang to power and influence geography wise. None of the players the including Israel is interested or driven by religious motives. But the political leaders use religion to get support from ignorant and illiterate idiots that make up their respective constituents subjects.

Netanyahu holds US citizenship and he raised his family there for some years. MBS spends summer months In France and Europe. Emiratis prefer Germany, and it goes n and on.

72 virgins, good fearing etc has no place in any serious discussion.

Every muslim I know is against Israel simply because they share the same religion of Islam. I never once met a muslim who was upset with muslim soldiers for killing palestinians or arabs. No complains from any m&d when Jordan slaughtered thousands of palestinians. Hardly a squeak from them when the Saudis drop bombs on Yemeni muslims and enforced a crushing blockade. The same muslims make lots of noise when it is the buddhist burmese who kill muslims. And despite muslims hating Dotard, it was Dotard who got the Saudis to lift the blockade for the Yemenis to let supplies in. Ever saw any muslims thank Dotard for that?

WASHINGTON — The White House today welcomed the announcement by Saudi Arabia that the kingdom would lift a blockade on a key Yemen port; the decision followed mounting pressure from the US administration over the past month.

Even as it condemned a second Houthi ballistic missile launch that attempted to target the Saudi capital, Riyadh, on Tuesday, the Donald Trump administration has been stepping up pressure on the Saudi-led coalition to lift its blockade to allow critically needed food and fuel into Yemen to alleviate one of the biggest humanitarian calamities in the world.

Read more: http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/ori...ckade-yemen-port-war-trump.html#ixzz51sxGYAi7

Scroobal, religion may be beneath you in a discussion, but for many people, it is the sole reason for their actions and warped sense of right and wrong. They will ultimately drive what is right or wrong, not academic think-tanks.

gatehousethetinkertailor · Dec 21, 2017

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gatehousethetinkertailor · Dec 21, 2017

In an indication of the scale of defeat anticipated, Israel’s prime minister, Benjamin Netanyahu, launched a pre-emptive attack denouncing the UN as a “house of lies” on Thursday morning.

Despite the tenor of the Trump administration’s public comments over the president’s recognition of Jerusalem, behind the scenes there has been a recognition that the unpopularity of the move – which has led to a Palestinian refusal to meet US peace mediators – will necessitate a cooling-off period, according to a senior US official.

Still extraordinary - despite all the gusto and gungho attitudes publicly it does beg the question why the Israelis actually care then about what the other nations of the world think - almost everyone who thinks that such a declaration is not in the actual interest of peace but really Dotard playing to his evangelical segment already expect some kind of outburst culminating in accusations of being anti-Semites.

Imagine that - 160 countries branded anti-semites...

gatehousethetinkertailor · Dec 21, 2017

here is how UNGA voted on Tuesday on an annual resolution on the right of the Palestinian people to self-determination:

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gatehousethetinkertailor · Dec 21, 2017

Comments/Statements/Quotes attributed to David Ben Gurion (born in Poland in 1886 and moved to Ottoman Palestine in 1906) and often referred to by those in opposition to illustrate the foundations of the Zionist thinking to the non-Jewish population pre-establishment of independent Israel:

"Ben-Gurion is the man principally responsible for the anti-Arab policy, because it was he who molded the thinking of generations of Israelis." - Nahum Goldmann, a leading [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zionism']Zionist and the founder and longtime president of the World Jewish Congress.[/URL]

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gatehousethetinkertailor · Dec 21, 2017

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gatehousethetinkertailor · Dec 21, 2017

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gatehousethetinkertailor · Dec 21, 2017

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gatehousethetinkertailor · Dec 21, 2017

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gatehousethetinkertailor · Dec 22, 2017

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gatehousethetinkertailor · Dec 22, 2017

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gatehousethetinkertailor · Dec 22, 2017

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scroobal · Dec 23, 2017

Thanks for the comments by Carter - insightful.

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scroobal · Dec 23, 2017

What a week. Trump and Netanyahu totally made a fool of each other. Netanyahu must be smoking his socks as he gave an interview to CNN claiming that countries were engaged with Israel on moving their embassies and this was after the vote.

Nobody really cares if the US leaves the UN. The Europeans will step up in any void created by the US in any platform that engages in dialogue and conflict resolution. The Norwegians have long been active in this space for over 30 years and they are just one of the capable ones.

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