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Wake up Sinkies: raising retirement age may not solve savings shortfall!

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[h=1]<noscript><a href="http://www.nytimes.com/adx/bin/adx_click.html?type=cookie&pos=Position1B"><img src="http://www.nytimes.com/adx/bin/adx_remote.html?type=noscript&page=blog.nytimes.com/bucks/post&posall=XXL,AdShareData,PushDown,FixedPanel,TopAd,Bar1,Position1,Position1B,Top5,SponLink,MiddleRight,Box1,Box3,Box3A,Bottom3,Right5A,Right6A,Right7A,Right8A,Middle1C,Bottom7,Bottom8,Bottom9,Header1,Header2,Header3,Inv1,Inv2,CcolumnSS,Middle4,Left1B,Frame6A,Left2,Left3,Left4,Left5,Left6,Left7,Left8,Left9,JMNow1,JMNow2,JMNow3,JMNow4,JMNow5,JMNow6,Feature1,Spon3,ADX_CLIENTSIDE,SponLink2&pos=Position1B&query=qstring&keywords=?"></a></noscript> Working Until 70 May Not Solve Savings Shortfall[/h]
<!-- By line --><address class="byline author vcard">11 September 2012

By ANN CARRNS</address><!-- The Content -->
Research from the nonprofit Employee Benefits Research Institute throws cold water on the notion that working until age 70 will set most Americans up for adequate retirement income.

Jack VanDerhei, research director at E.B.R.I., says some studies have suggested that by working to age 70 - five years past the traditional retirement age of 65 - nearly 80 percent of preretirees, including lower-income Americans, could have adequate retirement income. But such models, he said, don't fully take into account changes in the retirement system, such as the shift away from pension plans and toward 401(k) accounts, or the potential for a catastrophic health event that would require a stay in a nursing home.

When those factors are accounted for, he said, the outlook is less optimistic, especially for lower-income workers. E.B.R.I.'s analytical model, he said, indicates that for those in the lowest quarter of incomes, workers would have to toil until age 84 before 90 percent of them would have at least a break-even chance for success.

That doesn't mean, he said, that he is advocating that everyone work until their 80s, or that working that long is feasible. But it does suggest, he said, that it is a risky notion to think that you can work until you're 65 and then simply work five more years if you don't haven't saved enough. If a couple near retirement age has one member who become ill and requires a lengthy nursing home stay, he said, a good chunk of their savings may be exhausted. "How can you ignore that?" he said.
It's much less of a gamble, he said, to save more while you're working, if you can: "It's much less risky than waiting until you're 65 or 67 and seeing what happens."

How long do you plan on working?


 
people still dun get it, working for retirement is way past the time.

PLease build asset and get passive income, that is your real retirement income... That is why i avoided sinkies, sinkies need a US researchers to find out why it is wrong to work past retirement age.

how primitive and incompetent a sinkie can get.
 
In order to define "retirement", you first have to understand what "work" is in the first place.

If "work" is something that's so unpleasant that you need to be PAID to do it, it's obviously not something you want to do for an extended period of your life.

However, if you can start building wealth by doing something creative or providing a service that brings you great satisfaction, then you're on your way to becoming very wealthy well before you reach middle age. The world "retirement" can then be deleted from your vocabulary as it is no longer relavent.
 
Sinkies love to get screwed by their govt and it sure to bring them great satisfaction.

Maybe they can retired just be getting screwed. But they paid the govt to screw them so that is a problem.
 
In order to define "retirement", you first have to understand what "work" is in the first place.

If "work" is something that's so unpleasant that you need to be PAID to do it, it's obviously not something you want to do for an extended period of your life.

being ministers and MPs must be really unpleasant, since they are paid many times over the average wage of a singaporean.
 
Before 50 >>55 >>60>>65
When it going to stop??????????????
 
Before 50 >>55 >>60>>65
When it going to stop??????????????

it will only stop when sinkie got the balls to get onto the street to demonstrate and protest to throw the PAP out.
 
Looking at it factually on a progressive historical perspective, I am not surprised that majority of singaporeans have to work until 70 or even beyond.

Cpf withdrawal age which one can draw his cpf, has shifted from age 55 to 60, then 62 and then 65.
It is highly possible that it will again be raised to age 70. Together with the fact that the minimum sum of the Medisave portion rising yearly, and that it is compulsory to top from the ordinary account, all that is left at 70 will be actually peanuts. :(
 
being ministers and MPs must be really unpleasant, since they are paid many times over the average wage of a singaporean.

It actually is very unpleasant. I wouldn't do the job for any amount of money.
 
sorry hor . articles about US situation, totally different from singapore and rest of the world.
 
Looking at it factually on a progressive historical perspective, I am not surprised that majority of singaporeans have to work until 70 or even beyond.

Why should anyone have to work beyond 50? All they have to do is crate sufficient wealth before that age to last them for the next 50 years and retirement becomes a non issue.
 
Sinkies love to get screwed by their govt and it sure to bring them great satisfaction.

Maybe they can retired just be getting screwed. But they paid the govt to screw them so that is a problem.

you are a real screwing king. well done!
 
it will only stop when sinkie got the balls to get onto the street to demonstrate and protest to throw the PAP out.

No use one. Majority of Sinkies are screwed and they loved to be screwed. So why bother to advise/help these people, several of whom are also in this forum. Only the smarter ones will or have already found a way out, just like Boss Sam, erm..... myself included.
 
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No use one. Majority of Sinkies are screwed and they loved to be screwed. So why bother to advise/help these people, several of whom are also in this forum. Only the smarter ones will or have already found a way out, just like Boss Sam, erm..... myself included.

good post well done! always losing.but winning nevertheless. thank you.
 
it will only stop when sinkie got the balls to get onto the street to demonstrate and protest to throw the PAP out.

Throwing the PAP out isn't going to make a scrap of difference when it comes to retiring.

Having to earn a living comes to end when there is sufficient passive income to pay all the bills. This has to be an individual goal and it is up to each and every individual who is concerned about retirement to make it happen.
 
Having to earn a living comes to end when there is sufficient passive income to pay all the bills.

Boss, just to pay for all the bills is not enough. Must also have surplus to pamper yourself with some luxuries which you truly deserve for working so hard in the past.
 
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