Urgent case here with hostile FT tenant - can someone help?

[RandomMonkey]

As far as I can see, the police are legally correct and are not 'siding with FTs'. Rent dispute is a civil matter and the police can only be there to enforce a court order, if and when you get one. Your right to evict them from your house does not extend to a right to confine them against their will (unlawful confinement).

To show you are serious, I suggest you take your case to court to demand:

• that he be evicted with immediate effect
• that he be liable for all losses resulting from his failure to move out as is legally required of him
• that these costs include but are not limited to your legal costs, lost rental (resulting from his illegal occupation), other costs arising from having to deal with this matter, e.g. driving down, etc., lost earnings (from having to deal with this), etc.

One issue about taking someone to court is that he is unwilling to pay you. Has he made any payment at all? If so, note which bank his cheque comes from, because if you can get judgment against him later on, and he refuses to pay, take a garnishee on the account. It's really fun because his bank will be alerted and he will be mighty embarrassed.

Finally, while many of us want to project ourselves as flexible when renting out our property, it is very important to establish that you mean business right from the start. If your prospective tenant doesn't want to meet any of your requirements, be prepared to lose him. You can relax later but show who's boss at the start.

Thanks, but these are not workable because

1) He is here legally (American passport)

2) He has no bank account here (paid me the deposit in cash)

3) I do not have his passport number, only his name, and it is a common name like "JOHN TAN" that could well be anyone, no full name etc. All I have is his US address, which is useless in terms of enforcing a judgment - there are serious conflict of law issues and I will have to get a US court injunction to enforce the SG court ruling, all for what? A matter of $10,000 or thereabouts?

4) Filing a court order could take weeks or even months. His tenancy is to expire in 3 months (short term lease). I know my worst case is to just sit and wait for 3 months but I lose a lot of money this way. The monthly rent is $4,200 and as such I am losing $12,600 for nothing cos of this CB kia.

 

[Raiders]

Ok lah, he may really need some help. Alamaking, please stop your TCSS

My take is the same as Zorro on post #5. Remember to bring the a group of women along to escort his wife and baby out. No need to use force. Dont need to be gentleman with this type of chowka. Alternatively, you can ask your group of friends to camp in your house, make noise 24hours and walk around the house semi naked.

 

[keling is shit]

1. Do renovation or any works, must apply and get permission from the estate management of the condo. So cannot suka suka get workmen and remove door.

2. I am curious why the owner don't make use of the condo security to bar the tenant from entering the premises

to randommonkey, i think the mcst easier to handle than the hk tenant.

 

[RandomMonkey]

1. Do renovation or any works, must apply and get permission from the estate management of the condo. So cannot suka suka get workmen and remove door.

2. I am curious why the owner don't make use of the condo security to bar the tenant from entering the premises

1) You are correct. Cannot anyhow to renovation works.

2) Cannot make use of security. I have already talked to the security, they don't like him either as they find him damn CB in his attitude towards them. They however do not want to be legally implicated because he DOES have a TA for four months even though it is breached and he refuses to pay rent. He can still CLAIM that he is the legal occupant and in the eyes of third parties, this is a contentious issue (even though it is not).

 

[RandomMonkey]

I am seriously considering just manhandling him out, but my own friends and staffs are not willing to do it as they think it is a crime (assault) to violently/physically remove someone from a place. And I am also concerned about legal aspects.

I am wondering if anyone here is ex-police and can give me advice?

 

[Mdm Tang]

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You are also Fucktard to save on Agent fee !!!

And that Stupid TA that u are holding

in invalid and non-binding because it is "past-consideration"

U been screwed.

let me have his pics and video now !!!

 

[streetsmart73]

Since it's a civil matter, and you are the owner of the house... why don't you get a group of friends, go into your OWN house, take stuff that does not belong to you and chuck outside.

Then, manhandle him out.

Crowd his wife and child out of the house as well... make sure don't touch them, or they may cry molest (but the guy you can push out - no worries - police won't take action as long as you don't hurt him too badly).

Have some women present and someone video the whole thing to prove you do not molest the woman.

Once they are outside, lock the gate with a chain and padlock so they can't get in.

Then get security of the condo to escort him off the property.

hi there


1. since mata boh chap and you are the legal owner.
2. just get some ah nehs, dirty to co-stay for a few days.
3. see who run first loh!

 

[Unrepented]

Contract. If he no pay, contract is void.

1) You are correct. Cannot anyhow to renovation works.

2) Cannot make use of security. I have already talked to the security, they don't like him either as they find him damn CB in his attitude towards them. They however do not want to be legally implicated because he DOES have a TA for four months even though it is breached and he refuses to pay rent. He can still CLAIM that he is the legal occupant and in the eyes of third parties, this is a contentious issue (even though it is not).

 

[RonRon]

I am seriously considering just manhandling him out, but my own friends and staffs are not willing to do it as they think it is a crime (assault) to violently/physically remove someone from a place. And I am also concerned about legal aspects.

I am wondering if anyone here is ex-police and can give me advice?

Take him out 1 on 1, make Singapore proud!

 

[Unrepented]

Frankly, don't think your case is genuine. You didn't get a photo copy of his passport?

Thanks, but these are not workable because

1) He is here legally (American passport)

2) He has no bank account here (paid me the deposit in cash)

3) I do not have his passport number, only his name, and it is a common name like "JOHN TAN" that could well be anyone, no full name etc. All I have is his US address, which is useless in terms of enforcing a judgment - there are serious conflict of law issues and I will have to get a US court injunction to enforce the SG court ruling, all for what? A matter of $10,000 or thereabouts?

4) Filing a court order could take weeks or even months. His tenancy is to expire in 3 months (short term lease). I know my worst case is to just sit and wait for 3 months but I lose a lot of money this way. The monthly rent is $4,200 and as such I am losing $12,600 for nothing cos of this CB kia.

 

[ChewCheng]

Does this mean you do not have a contract with him? Any contract will have full particulars.

Thanks, but these are not workable because

1) He is here legally (American passport)

2) He has no bank account here (paid me the deposit in cash)

3) I do not have his passport number, only his name, and it is a common name like "JOHN TAN" that could well be anyone, no full name etc. All I have is his US address, which is useless in terms of enforcing a judgment - there are serious conflict of law issues and I will have to get a US court injunction to enforce the SG court ruling, all for what? A matter of $10,000 or thereabouts?

4) Filing a court order could take weeks or even months. His tenancy is to expire in 3 months (short term lease). I know my worst case is to just sit and wait for 3 months but I lose a lot of money this way. The monthly rent is $4,200 and as such I am losing $12,600 for nothing cos of this CB kia.

 

[Alamaking]

Did you have a copy of his passport? U should actually, then go make police report and check his visa, and not questioning this story is true or not....

How can a foreigner bring his family to SG and manage to rent a flat here without valid documents, it baffles me

 

[ZorrorroZ]

exactly.... if your friends refuse to do it, just hire a removal company to come and remove everything. Just tell the boss your intentions, and offer to pay extra for their removal service, even if the couple make noise.

LIke I said earlier - your friends should not worry about throwing him out. As proven time and again by our valiant police, they won't take action if nobody hurt badly - at the most they will advise to make magistrate report. Magistrate will throw out this kind of issue if he does not get hurt badly. You can countersue if it goes that far.

 

[ZorrorroZ]

Did you have a copy of his passport? U should actually, then go make police report and check his visa, and not questioning this story is true or not....

How can a foreigner bring his family to SG and manage to rent a flat here without valid documents, it baffles me

worst case scenario, TS can also go to jail if found harbouring illegal alien.

 

[ChewCheng]

Maybe splash paint on your own door? I dun think that is a crime if it is your own door.

I am seriously considering just manhandling him out, but my own friends and staffs are not willing to do it as they think it is a crime (assault) to violently/physically remove someone from a place. And I am also concerned about legal aspects.

I am wondering if anyone here is ex-police and can give me advice?

 

[ZorrorroZ]

Maybe splash paint on your own door? I dun think that is a crime if it is your own door.

How would splashing paint on the door get him to move out? Perhaps if splash paint on the fella, that might help.

 

[Alamaking]

Maybe splash paint on your own door? I dun think that is a crime if it is your own door.

Ur comment really live up to your name, lol

 

[zeddy]

Take him out 1 on 1, make Singapore proud!

Better don't use violence.. Maybe TS can buy his tenant a packet of Kopi O.. Then piss a little bit of his urine inside that Kopi O and give it to him to drink when discussing matters with him.. Cheapskate like that Hongkie fucktard would gladly accept the free Kopi O..When dealing with these FTs, its ok to play dirty..

 

[Zombie]

If you have the keys and there is no door latch, just walk in quietly at 3 am with 10 bro/sis and throw them out with their belongings. Grab their phones and return once they are out. Make sure the condo securities do not allow them in again. Bring a chain and padlock to lock the gate just in case. Once they are out, call the police to make a case that you have done so and they are not harmed in anyway.

 

[Alamaking]

Otherwise, make him threaten you, you can file a report based on threatening, Police will handle it more seriously.