Re: Sinkapore kpkb about Indons ...Malaysia offers assistance
Your 48% majority Government is very wise!!
Your 48% majority Government is very wise!!
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Updated News/Gossips/KNNBCCB PAP Never Solve Haze Problem Thread
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Re: Is NS training slack during the haze?
What can MINDEF do?
If they resume outdoor training and force the cadets to do SOC with full pack, and people start dropping dead, will MINDEF be able to answer to the parents for the loss of their precious little sons?
More importantly what would be the political repercussions? Ng Eng Hen would almost certainly get voted out in 2016, seeing as there is no politically expedient excuse for SAF training deaths.
What can MINDEF do?
If they resume outdoor training and force the cadets to do SOC with full pack, and people start dropping dead, will MINDEF be able to answer to the parents for the loss of their precious little sons?
More importantly what would be the political repercussions? Ng Eng Hen would almost certainly get voted out in 2016, seeing as there is no politically expedient excuse for SAF training deaths.
Re: Coping with the hazy situation
a VIP sinkie needs to drop dead coz of the haze problem then see how........
a VIP sinkie needs to drop dead coz of the haze problem then see how........
Re: Vivian Balakrishnan under stress
You guys don't know Ms Vivian as well as I do. We were neighbours once and my brother was his classmate....At school, Ms Vivian was aloof and had his own inner circle of "academically elite" friends. One had to be of a certain Mensa level to join it.
Why should I be surprised when he became a politician and HAS his own inner circle of "politically connected" friends?
You guys don't know Ms Vivian as well as I do. We were neighbours once and my brother was his classmate....At school, Ms Vivian was aloof and had his own inner circle of "academically elite" friends. One had to be of a certain Mensa level to join it.
Why should I be surprised when he became a politician and HAS his own inner circle of "politically connected" friends?
Re: Vivian Balakrishnan under stress
It isn't surprising that he has always been aloof etc (many "elites" are like that), but what IS surprising is how he sold out his reformist views. He wanted to change the system from within. Now he is just perpetuating the system. He has not done a single thing to reform the PAP from within.
It isn't surprising that he has always been aloof etc (many "elites" are like that), but what IS surprising is how he sold out his reformist views. He wanted to change the system from within. Now he is just perpetuating the system. He has not done a single thing to reform the PAP from within.
Re: Bargain Hen talk cock, DISGraceFu joins in, Healthy Minister Gan keeps mum
For once I agree with you.
Sinkies fall ill, that's Sinkies' problem to solve - that's Pinky's and his ministars line of thought. There will always be FTs who are eager to fill the jobs vacated by sick Sinkies.
Meanwhile in Pinky's home as well as his office, there are very high-end quality air purifiers and carbon filters to help him and his family breathe fresh air. They are paid for by the state, er, rather by LEEgime.
For once I agree with you.
Sinkies fall ill, that's Sinkies' problem to solve - that's Pinky's and his ministars line of thought. There will always be FTs who are eager to fill the jobs vacated by sick Sinkies.
Meanwhile in Pinky's home as well as his office, there are very high-end quality air purifiers and carbon filters to help him and his family breathe fresh air. They are paid for by the state, er, rather by LEEgime.
Re: Riau Governor is facing Corruption charges but he is still in Office
CPT (NS) Brandon, please convey the following message of mine to LKY, his son Pinky and Holy Goh:
If the premise of paying cabinet ministers millions of dollars in order to prevent them from being corrupt is logical, countries in Europe, North America, Australia and New Zealand would have adopted it long, long ago.
Has it ever crossed Old Fart's mind that the leaders of those countries are not dimwits?
CPT (NS) Brandon, please convey the following message of mine to LKY, his son Pinky and Holy Goh:
If the premise of paying cabinet ministers millions of dollars in order to prevent them from being corrupt is logical, countries in Europe, North America, Australia and New Zealand would have adopted it long, long ago.
Has it ever crossed Old Fart's mind that the leaders of those countries are not dimwits?
What will PAP do about GOLDEN AGRI and APRIL????
Previously, VB asked the Indonesian government to expose the names of the companies responsible for the burning. When told by the Indonesians that some of them could be Singapore-listed or Singapore-based companies, VB replied that just give him the names and he will take action.
A few days later LHL went on TV and said that the PAP government will "take up the matter" with the companies if they had any operations in Singapore, or had any part of their ownership based in Singapore.
Now, it has been revealed by the Indonesian authorities that GOLDEN AGRI and APRIL are amongst the 8 companies who have been setting fire to their plantations, thereby causing the haze. Both of them are based in Singapore:
1. GOLDEN AGRI (SINAR MAS)
108 Pasir Panjang Road
No 06-00 Golden Agri Plaza
Phone: 65 6590 0800
2. APRIL
80 Raffles Place
#50-01 UOB Plaza 1
Singapore 048624
Tel: +65 6216 9368
Fax: +65 6538 4668
It is known that these companies are owned/managed by powerful families with close ties to the Indonesian leadership as well as certain members of the Singapore elite.
Will LHL and VB now keep to their word and take action against them?????
It is not possible for the PUBLIC to boycott their products as they do not actually produce any retail products, i.e. you won't go to NTUC and find any "Golden Agri" brand palm oil. They sell their products to other companies and it will be hard to find out who they are supplying.
Therefore the ONLY way to put an end to this shit is to take direct action against these two companies. An example must be set. I don't think Singaporeans will be satisfied if our ministers just went to see them for talks, or if they were just given warnings.
SINGAPORE MUST FREEZE THEIR ASSETS AND TAKE LEGAL ACTION AGAINST THEM IN THE COURTS.
If the PAP dares to sue opposition leaders for millions and force them into bankruptcy, it MUST apply the same principle here, especially since these companies are endangering the lives of millions of people.
I would personally not be satisfied unless these companies were fined at least US$1 billion each!!
But will our government have the balls to do anything about it!
Previously, VB asked the Indonesian government to expose the names of the companies responsible for the burning. When told by the Indonesians that some of them could be Singapore-listed or Singapore-based companies, VB replied that just give him the names and he will take action.
A few days later LHL went on TV and said that the PAP government will "take up the matter" with the companies if they had any operations in Singapore, or had any part of their ownership based in Singapore.
Now, it has been revealed by the Indonesian authorities that GOLDEN AGRI and APRIL are amongst the 8 companies who have been setting fire to their plantations, thereby causing the haze. Both of them are based in Singapore:
1. GOLDEN AGRI (SINAR MAS)
108 Pasir Panjang Road
No 06-00 Golden Agri Plaza
Phone: 65 6590 0800
2. APRIL
80 Raffles Place
#50-01 UOB Plaza 1
Singapore 048624
Tel: +65 6216 9368
Fax: +65 6538 4668
It is known that these companies are owned/managed by powerful families with close ties to the Indonesian leadership as well as certain members of the Singapore elite.
Will LHL and VB now keep to their word and take action against them?????
It is not possible for the PUBLIC to boycott their products as they do not actually produce any retail products, i.e. you won't go to NTUC and find any "Golden Agri" brand palm oil. They sell their products to other companies and it will be hard to find out who they are supplying.
Therefore the ONLY way to put an end to this shit is to take direct action against these two companies. An example must be set. I don't think Singaporeans will be satisfied if our ministers just went to see them for talks, or if they were just given warnings.
SINGAPORE MUST FREEZE THEIR ASSETS AND TAKE LEGAL ACTION AGAINST THEM IN THE COURTS.
If the PAP dares to sue opposition leaders for millions and force them into bankruptcy, it MUST apply the same principle here, especially since these companies are endangering the lives of millions of people.
I would personally not be satisfied unless these companies were fined at least US$1 billion each!!
But will our government have the balls to do anything about it!
Re: What will PAP do about GOLDEN AGRI and APRIL????
CPT (NS) Brandon: Is this your first time on this forum? Please use the search feature and input key words like ball-less, no balls, Pinky, LHL, gu-niang, bapok and you will find your answer.
CPT (NS) Brandon: Is this your first time on this forum? Please use the search feature and input key words like ball-less, no balls, Pinky, LHL, gu-niang, bapok and you will find your answer.
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Re: What will PAP do about GOLDEN AGRI and APRIL????
Since they like to slash and burn then we go and slash and burn their offices........
CSI the executives out.......addresses everything.......pap govt won't do fuck to stop the toxic air then citizens should turn vigilantes to protect themselves.
Since they like to slash and burn then we go and slash and burn their offices........
CSI the executives out.......addresses everything.......pap govt won't do fuck to stop the toxic air then citizens should turn vigilantes to protect themselves.
Re: Bargain Hen talk cock, DISGraceFu joins in, Healthy Minister Gan keeps mum
This is why Singapore is in fact a feudal corporatocracy. The many are labouring in slave-like conditions for the benefit of the few. The wealthy are rent-seekers, squeezing every single cent out of the poor by taxing them enormously for daily amenities and necessities. Think about it. It's true.
It is why I have long since given up on seeing the PAP toppled. It wouldn't change a thing. The people in charge of this country are not the PAP. It is an elite inner circle of oligarchs and family interests.
I have made plans to emigrate in September which is why I am fucking pissed that this haze is causing me to suffer for my last few months in Singapore.
This is why Singapore is in fact a feudal corporatocracy. The many are labouring in slave-like conditions for the benefit of the few. The wealthy are rent-seekers, squeezing every single cent out of the poor by taxing them enormously for daily amenities and necessities. Think about it. It's true.
It is why I have long since given up on seeing the PAP toppled. It wouldn't change a thing. The people in charge of this country are not the PAP. It is an elite inner circle of oligarchs and family interests.
I have made plans to emigrate in September which is why I am fucking pissed that this haze is causing me to suffer for my last few months in Singapore.
Re: What will PAP do about GOLDEN AGRI and APRIL????
I have already provided the addresses of these two companies. I did so for a reason. Please spread to anyone as you wish. This is public information which can easily be verified through ACRA, so spreading it is no crime.
I would like to see the look on their faces when 1,000 angry protesters show up at their office demanding to see the CEO -- forming a barricade at the entrance which prevents them from going to work. In fact, just 200 protesters will be enough to do that. The police can arrest 10 or 20 or 50 people but they cannot arrest 200 or 500 or 1,000 people.
If there is a protest I would happily take leave to be there. But I won't start one myself as I don't know how.
Of course I am hoping that VB keeps his word and takes action himself then the citizens don't need to do anything.
This is where I want to see the PAP use their favourite tactic -- fixing their opponents using the courts.
I have already provided the addresses of these two companies. I did so for a reason. Please spread to anyone as you wish. This is public information which can easily be verified through ACRA, so spreading it is no crime.
I would like to see the look on their faces when 1,000 angry protesters show up at their office demanding to see the CEO -- forming a barricade at the entrance which prevents them from going to work. In fact, just 200 protesters will be enough to do that. The police can arrest 10 or 20 or 50 people but they cannot arrest 200 or 500 or 1,000 people.
If there is a protest I would happily take leave to be there. But I won't start one myself as I don't know how.
Of course I am hoping that VB keeps his word and takes action himself then the citizens don't need to do anything.
This is where I want to see the PAP use their favourite tactic -- fixing their opponents using the courts.
Re: Sinkapore kpkb about Indons ...Malaysia offers assistance
Secret, secret, cannot say. That time, we sign a lucrative pact with USA, all problems settled.
Secret, secret, cannot say. That time, we sign a lucrative pact with USA, all problems settled.
Re: Bargain Hen talk cock, DISGraceFu joins in, Healthy Minister Gan keeps mum
Even after you have emigrated, you can still contribute to enlightening Sinkies about the corrupt LEEgime and exposing their evil deeds, no? That's the power of social media.
Even after you have emigrated, you can still contribute to enlightening Sinkies about the corrupt LEEgime and exposing their evil deeds, no? That's the power of social media.
Re: What will PAP do about GOLDEN AGRI and APRIL????
If this was the USA, it would be possible for any number of affected citizens to file a class action suit against them. In such cases the damages can be a few hundred million. For example, take the Erin Brockovich case. It was a water utilities company that negligently allowed the water supply to be contaminated. A few thousand people jointly sued the company for US$300-400 million. The court judged in favour of the plaintiffs.
Not sure if this is even possible in Singapore as I have never heard of this being done before. Any lawyers able to advise on the subject? Maybe M Ravi might want to take up the case!!
If this was the USA, it would be possible for any number of affected citizens to file a class action suit against them. In such cases the damages can be a few hundred million. For example, take the Erin Brockovich case. It was a water utilities company that negligently allowed the water supply to be contaminated. A few thousand people jointly sued the company for US$300-400 million. The court judged in favour of the plaintiffs.
Not sure if this is even possible in Singapore as I have never heard of this being done before. Any lawyers able to advise on the subject? Maybe M Ravi might want to take up the case!!
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