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Toshiba's megawatt fuel cells have enough juice to power a factory

hmmm. True.. if that is how patent works and overlook the integrity of real invention.. then patenting loses a lot of respect. it is up to the inventor to uphold the integrity of the real invention. For the water power car, i still believe in it as there are such version of tech in the middle east on video showing it can work. I am really interested in trying that out. Will get my hands on it someday.
Young man, take it from a boomer. We have seen many things. The number #1 lesson in life is, don't believe anything because scam and scammers are everywhere and there is a sucker born every minute. You don't want to be that sucker.
Don't waste your life looking for a water engine. There are more productive use of your time. Like, go get a girlfriend because I know you don't have one. How did I know? We're boomers. We know many things you don't.
 
Come, simple science use simple solutions.
Can someone calculate the energy required to produce enough hydrogen from a simple hydrolysis experiment? Then calculate the amount of hydrogen required to power a vehicle.


Hydrogen fuel cell has nothing to do with green energy unless you can mine hydrogen free as with crude oil.

You can input energy to produce H+O from electrolysis of water. Then the amount of energy you get from hydrogen fuel cell is the same as the amount used in electrolysis of water - might as well use the electricity to drive a motor.

Ultracapacitor too is just a storage of power, no different from batteries. The charging comes. from your power stations - nothing to do with renewable energy
 
Young man, take it from a boomer. We have seen many things. The number #1 lesson in life is, don't believe anything because scam and scammers are everywhere and there is a sucker born every minute. You don't want to be that sucker.
Don't waste your life looking for a water engine. There are more productive use of your time. Like, go get a girlfriend because I know you don't have one. How did I know? We're boomers. We know many things you don't.
for your boomer info, i do not listen to boomer. i research fact and share discussion with anyone including boomers. no one in their right mind will listen to egoistic, sexually deprived, dysfunctional senior toxic. That is because past experience does not equal to present situation. Change is constant.

for the water powered car, i am still interested in it and will do my best to use it in my life. I can even input some of my innovative and creative ideas into it.

one thing to note is that input innovative ideas and appreciate its success and failure isn't a boomer thing, it is a new rising generation thing.
 
Hydrogen fuel cell has nothing to do with green energy unless you can mine hydrogen free as with crude oil.

You can input energy to produce H+O from electrolysis of water. Then the amount of energy you get from hydrogen fuel cell is the same as the amount used in electrolysis of water - might as well use the electricity to drive a motor.

Ultracapacitor too is just a storage of power, no different from batteries. The charging comes. from your power stations - nothing to do with renewable energy
Do you think Stanley's invention of the water powered car is a hoax? we have one egoistic boomer claiming that it is bullshit.
 
And then Samsung cane up with this

Samsung Presents Groundbreaking All-Solid-State Battery Technology to ‘Nature Energy’
on March 10, 2020
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On March 9 in London, researchers from the Samsung Advanced Institute of Technology (SAIT) and the Samsung R&D Institute Japan (SRJ) presented a study on high-performance, long-lasting all-solid-state batteries to Nature Energy, one of the world’s leading scientific journals.

Compared to widely used lithium-ion batteries, which utilize liquid electrolytes, all-solid-state batteries support greater energy density, which opens the door for larger capacities, and utilize solid electrolytes, which are demonstrably safer. However, the lithium metal anodes that are frequently used in all-solid-state batteries, are prone to trigger the growth of dendrites1 which can produce undesirable side effects that reduce a battery’s lifespan and safety.

To overcome those effects, Samsung’s researchers proposed utilizing, for the first time, a silver-carbon (Ag-C) composite layer as the anode. The team found that incorporating an Ag-C layer into a prototype pouch cell enabled the battery to support a larger capacity, a longer cycle life, and enhanced its overall safety. Measuring just 5µm (micrometers) thick, the ultrathin Ag-C nanocomposite layer allowed the team to reduce anode thickness and increase energy density up to 900Wh/L. It also enabled them to make their prototype approximately 50 percent smaller by volume than a conventional lithium-ion battery.

This promising research is expected to help drive the expansion of electric vehicles (EVs). The prototype pouch cell that the team developed would enable an EV to travel up to 800km on a single charge, and features a cycle life of over 1,000 charges.

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(From left) Yuichi Aihara, Principal Engineer from SRJ, Yong-Gun Lee, Principal Researcher and Dongmin Im, Master from SAIT

As Dongmin Im, Master at SAIT’s Next Generation Battery Lab and the leader of the project explained, “The product of this study could be a seed technology for safer, high-performance batteries of the future. Going forward, we will continue to develop and refine all-solid-state battery materials and manufacturing technologies to help take EV battery innovation to the next level.”
I am not optimistic that we could break this energy storage capacity of batteries. The reason is battery technology is chemistry. We have almost reached a limit in chemistry as it is all about chemical reactions.

Chemistry comes from the energy changes of the electrons orbiting the nucleus of atoms and our knowledge of chemistry has almost been completed.We have nearly full knowledge of the elements in nature, lithium, cadmium, etc . So this is the reason that our computer speed goes up and up, but our hand phone battery still last for at most two days of usage. The other way to make our battery last one full month is when our electronics can use 1/100,000 current power.
 
I am not optimistic that we could break this energy storage capacity of batteries. The reason is battery technology is chemistry. We have almost reached a limit in chemistry as it is all about chemical reactions.
yes, because the current science discovery laws has its limits. u need real inventor to break this limit and discover new laws.
 
Molecules have bonds and these bonds need energy to break them into their separate individual elements,either thru some chemical reaction or electrolysis or something.....

The energy consumed is probably greater than the end product.....which makes it inefficient or not cost effective.....otherwise we simply create all the oxygen and hydrogen we want.....after all we are already doing it....on submarines where they turn sea water into its byproducts oxygen and hydrogen.
Submarines is a different story. I think electrolysis of water is reasonable if it is nuclear powered. The H may be of use and O is surely needed for breathing. They must have done calculations and find it better than using H and O stored in tanks.
 
The water fuel cell is a technical design of a "perpetual motion machine" created by American Stanley Allen Meyer (August 24, 1940 – March 20, 1998). Meyer claimed that an automobile retrofitted with the device could use water as fuel instead of gasoline.

No wonder the cabal wanna kill him. Oh yes, i guess this is beyond the scope of the mainstream laws of thermodynamics. Those who study WITHIN the mainstream laws, they just disagree with it.

A highly aware and intelligent person explaining this:
 
hmmm. True.. if that is how patent works and overlook the integrity of real invention.. then patenting loses a lot of respect. it is up to the inventor to uphold the integrity of the real invention. For the water power car, i still believe in it as there are such version of tech in the middle east on video showing it can work. I am really interested in trying that out. Will get my hands on it someday.
I am almost 100.01% sure water-powered car is a scam. Remember the E_Catt free energy scam of Andrea Rossi and Sergio Focardi. There were some dumb people who invested in them and until now, nothing comes out of it. They claimed they cannot reveal the details as the CIA, etc.. may assassinate them!
 
I am almost 100.01% sure water-powered car is a scam. Remember the E_Catt free energy scam of Andrea Rossi and Sergio Focardi. There were some dumb people who invested in them and until now, nothing comes out of it. They claimed they cannot reveal the details as the CIA, etc.. may assassinate them!

i believe that water powered car can work and the cabal will kill them. I guess the cabal is still in control on the fossil fuel but not for long.
 
to patent rubbish is stupid. you agree to such stupid? it is a waste of resources.

This is what i found in google:

Can you patent something that doesn't work?
Although you don't have to have a working prototype to apply for a patent, you do have to be able to describe the invention in detail and show how it will work. The idea alone isn't enough; you must be able to demonstrate the usefulness and functionality of your idea.

I wonder if this statement says that you can patent something that do not work. Pls enlightened me to remove my stupidity which seems to be such an enduring pain to be in.
I think it is true we can find ways to patent rubbish. No department in the world has the resource to check that every inventions submitted for patent must work. You don't say "perpetual motion machine" explicitly! Say "zero energy" machine tapping energy from the universe. Say my lab is at the top of Everest - you can come to check. Everest is nearer the "universe" than the ground level.
 
I think it is true we can find ways to patent rubbish. No department in the world has the resource to check that every inventions submitted for patent must work. You don't say "perpetual motion machine" explicitly! Say "zero energy" machine tapping energy from the universe. Say my lab is at the top of Everest - you can come to check. Everest is nearer the "universe" than the ground level.
Patent does not involved the checking of the integrity. it is just patent. how low is that. it doesn't goes inline with the energy of the new generation. so i guess the way patent works will not last long as the integrity element is not strong there. Same as corrupted leaders will not last long.
 
I have some basic knowledge of physics. There is no free energy. We may one day discover new source of energy that may be almost free; until that day, we are all stuck with fossil fuels.

Many of the youtube free energy videos have been debunked by others - you must look for those videos.
 
I have some basic knowledge of physics. There is no free energy. We may one day discover new source of energy that may be almost free; until that day, we are all stuck with fossil fuels.

Many of the youtube free energy videos have been debunked by others - you must look for those videos.
yes, many are fakes but not Stanley. I believe he figure a way to get the 1+1=3. if not, then why the cabal kill him. The fake energy videos might by uploaded by pple who work for the cabal or get paid to do that. This is to make the public disbelieve the perpetual energy can work. to the benefit of the cabal in the expense of the public.
 
yes, many are fakes but not Stanley. I believe he figure a way to get the 1+1=3. if not, then why the cabal kill him. The fake energy videos might by uploaded by pple who work for the cabal or get paid to do that. This is to make the public disbelieve the perpetual energy can work. to the benefit of the cabal in the expense of the public.
Meyer Stanley died somehow. There is a video of a Muslim cleric who was preaching the Quran and suddenly uttered "Arrgh" and died - the moment was recorded. We all die somehow.

There are all manners of men in the world including the dumb, scammers, charlatans and what not - we don't know why. I have nothing to say if you wish to believe in this water powered engine thing.
 
for your boomer info, i do not listen to boomer. i research fact and share discussion with anyone including boomers. no one in their right mind will listen to egoistic, sexually deprived, dysfunctional senior toxic. That is because past experience does not equal to present situation. Change is constant.

for the water powered car, i am still interested in it and will do my best to use it in my life. I can even input some of my innovative and creative ideas into it.

one thing to note is that input innovative ideas and appreciate its success and failure isn't a boomer thing, it is a new rising generation thing.
I've had enough with you. Thought you were dumb. I was wrong. You're a piece of rock that cannot learn. A one track mind. Good luck.
 
I've had enough with you. Thought you were dumb. I was wrong. You're a piece of rock that cannot learn. A one track mind. Good luck.
You have to understand that people will choose carefully who they wish to learn from. How can someone in their right mind choose to learn from someone who is sexually deprived, egoistic and a dysfunctional toxic? and if it is from a boomer, have to check if their knowledge and ideas are outdated or not.
 
Pls read my post carefully and don't put words into my mouth. I never state that i do not believe in the law of thermodynamics, i say just like working within the mainstream laws of thermodynamics will limit a person's invention and understanding of how things work. Are you going to say that the current law is the be it all and end all of it? IMO, i would say no.
If the invention works beyond the focus of mainstream law of thermodynamics and you don't understand it, it means it will not work? Why not just say you dun understand it and be humble about it.

good luck with your water car :biggrin:

and go look in the mirror about humility :wink:
 
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