Toshiba's megawatt fuel cells have enough juice to power a factory

[tobelightlight]

you can start by refuting the fraud allegations made here against the water "fuel cell" car

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanley_Meyer's_water_fuel_cell

it's always easy to call "conspiracy" when an idea is rejected. his "technology" is no more than regular electrolysis. given the nature of the free markets, if his tech did work and the patent being available, someone would have made it by now.

Tesla is much hated by the entire fossil fuel industry but I haven't heard of a single attempt on the founder's life.

Stanley and Tesla are at different period of time. It might be, The fossil cabel react differently at different times. Who knows what and who are behind Tesla? If Stanley being killed it means he is a threat to the cabal. Telsa is a threat to the cabal or is he working with the cabal.. who knows. Obviously, Stanley isn't with the cabal.

How do you charge Tesla's battery? using cabal electricity, i guess.. so the cabal still has the business so why killed Tesla.

if the energy to split h2o is higher than it creates power to run the car, then why Stanley can do it?

 

[Loofydralb]

did you read the patented water powered car by Stan Meyer? Any comment on that? that is physics.

The fact that no car company nor any company for that matter is investing in this clearly shows it to be a scam.

Not a single university can replicate or demonstrate or explain this thing you say. Boomers are still smarter than you.

I have a piece of rock I can sell you.You put it in your refrigerator and it will cool your refrigerator for you. $100. Want to try?

 

[pvtpublic]

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if the energy to split h2o is higher than it creates power to run the car, then why Stanley can do it?

do read the wiki link I posted. especially the bit where his "invention" violates the laws of thermodynamics.

conspiracies are fun but don't get too caught up in them.

as I said, if his tech is real, someone would have made it by now. don't let hubris cloud your judgement; I'm sure many others have come across his patents, not just yourself.

anyway have fun in the forum. lots of boomers here to entertain you and vice versa.

 

[zhihau]

But to produce hydrogen as an energy source?

Hmm... then back to the drawing block.

 

[tobelightlight]

do read the wiki link I posted. especially the bit where his "invention" violates the laws of thermodynamics.

How much do mainstream scientists know about thermodynamics beside working within the Laws of Thermodynamics? These laws are there to limits the creativity of inventions. Worse still, many education taught these are the only laws to abide by and end all of all studies. kind of sad for such limitations and they can't see beyond it.

 

[tobelightlight]

The fact that no car company nor any company for that matter is investing in this clearly shows it to be a scam.

Not a single university can replicate or demonstrate or explain this thing you say. Boomers are still smarter than you.

I have a piece of rock I can sell you.You put it in your refrigerator and it will cool your refrigerator for you. $100. Want to try?

That is your proof that it can't work? why not say that they can't produce it. It is patented. Are we to say that we can patent something that can't work?

 

[pvtpublic]

How much do mainstream scientists know about thermodynamics beside working within the Laws of Thermodynamics? These laws are there to limits the creativity of inventions. Worse still, many education taught these are the only laws to abide by and end all of all studies. kind of sad for such limitations and they can't see beyond it.

wow you've really lost the plot if you don't believe in the laws of thermodynamics.

wish you good luck in discovering the perpetual motion machine which will create energy out of nothing.

looking forward to the day you open a worm hole with your limitless energy source.

 

[Loofydralb]

... why not say that they can't produce it. It is patented. Are we to say that we can patent something that can't work?

Yes you can you idiot.

 

[tobelightlight]

wow you've really lost the plot if you don't believe in the laws of thermodynamics.

wish you good luck in discovering the perpetual motion machine which will create energy out of nothing.

looking forward to the day you open a worm hole with your limitless energy source.

Pls read my post carefully and don't put words into my mouth. I never state that i do not believe in the law of thermodynamics, i say just like working within the mainstream laws of thermodynamics will limit a person's invention and understanding of how things work. Are you going to say that the current law is the be it all and end all of it? IMO, i would say no.
If the invention works beyond the focus of mainstream law of thermodynamics and you don't understand it, it means it will not work? Why not just say you dun understand it and be humble about it.

 

[tobelightlight]

Yes you can you idiot.

who will patent something that do not work. you got to pay fees for that, huge fees.

 

[Loofydralb]

who will patent something that do not work. you got to pay fees for that, huge fees.

So many people patent rubbish and it does not cost much to patent.
Gosh, you're dumber than I first thought.

 

[frenchbriefs]

Don't think laws are there to limit creativity,more like laws to build a foundation upon,and make sure things are mathematically and fundamentally correct.
....and these laws are irrefutable......otherwise it will soon degrade into incoherence,nonsense or chaos.....

 

[tobelightlight]

Don't think laws are there to limit creativity,more like laws to build a foundation upon,and make sure things are mathematically and fundamentally correct.
....and these laws are irrefutable......otherwise it will soon degrade into incoherence,nonsense or chaos.....

Agree to that. But if you work within the laws only, that is the limit. Some people work and think beyond the confinement of such laws and create great invention and i believe this Stanley guy is.

 

[tobelightlight]

So many people patent rubbish and it does not cost much to patent.
Gosh, you're dumber than I first thought.

to patent rubbish is stupid. you agree to such stupid? it is a waste of resources.

This is what i found in google:

Can you patent something that doesn't work?
Although you don't have to have a working prototype to apply for a patent, you do have to be able to describe the invention in detail and show how it will work. The idea alone isn't enough; you must be able to demonstrate the usefulness and functionality of your idea.

I wonder if this statement says that you can patent something that do not work. Pls enlightened me to remove my stupidity which seems to be such an enduring pain to be in.

 

[frenchbriefs]

Agree to that. But if you work within the laws only, that is the limit. Some people work and think beyond the confinement of such laws and create great invention and i believe this Stanley guy is.

The laws are not there to limit anything,they are there to define what is theoretically possible within the physical at least human realm.

There's no limit to human creativity,u can come up with any nonsense,but in the end the laws shows what is possible or not possible.

The laws will not stop Stanley's invention from working, if it works it works, otherwise the law will explain why otherwise,in fact if it goes against the law,there's a 99.99999 percent certainty it will not work.....

Humans did not invent the rules,it exist because of this universe.....I'm goddam sure we would love to define the rules, teleport everywhere,infinite energy,zero gravity whenever we want,instantly repair everything or destroy on the molecular level.

 

[tobelightlight]

The laws are not there to limit anything,they are there to define what is theoretically possible within the physical at least human realm.

if working within the law, the inventions will limit itself within the boundaries of the law. This is what i am talking about. Stanely might stumble upon a new law from his invention through trial and error that he might not realise it, who knows.

His invention, the water powered car, works because it is patented. If other companies didn't use it as what it is expected it to be, it might be that they miss out an equation or input a wrong equation in the process unknowingly.

 

[Loofydralb]

to patent rubbish is stupid. you agree to such stupid? it is a waste of resources.

This is what i found in google:

Can you patent something that doesn't work?
Although you don't have to have a working prototype to apply for a patent, you do have to be able to describe the invention in detail and show how it will work. The idea alone isn't enough; you must be able to demonstrate the usefulness and functionality of your idea.

I wonder if this statement says that you can patent something that do not work. Pls enlightened me to remove my stupidity which seems to be such an enduring pain to be in.

OMG. Damn you are dense. Why am I doing this to explain it to you? Arrrggghh.

I can patent AND demonstrate that I can invent a flying underwear. I hide equipment that makes it fly and I just demonstrate it can fly an I will get that patent. And if I make a claim that my car runs on water, I show them drawings of the water engine, they come and see the water engine, but the real engine is hidden somewhere, I will get my patent.

Did Sinkie education system make you so dumb and straight and cannot think out of the box?

 

[tobelightlight]

OMG. Damn you are dense. Why am I doing this to explain it to you? Arrrggghh.

I can patent AND demonstrate that I can invent a flying underwear. I hide equipment that makes it fly and I just demonstrate it can fly an I will get that patent. And if I make a claim that my car runs on water, I show them drawings of the water engine, they come and see the water engine, but the real engine is hidden somewhere, I will get my patent.

Did Sinkie education system make you so dumb and straight and cannot think out of the box?

hmmm. True.. if that is how patent works and overlook the integrity of real invention.. then patenting loses a lot of respect. it is up to the inventor to uphold the integrity of the real invention. For the water power car, i still believe in it as there are such version of tech in the middle east on video showing it can work. I am really interested in trying that out. Will get my hands on it someday.

 

[ChanRasjid]

his patent online: https://patents.google.com/patent/US5149407A/en

who wanna installed hydrogen power engine in your car. It's a cool way to have a car like this now.

This hydrogen fuel ell

Why can't just built a better battery vehicle?

Because we can't PERIOD.

China and Tesla's promotion of electric car as green energy is more of hype. The energy for charging the car comes from Three Gorges Dam or coal fired power station.

 

[tobelightlight]

This hydrogen fuel ell

Because we can't PERIOD.

China and Tesla's promotion of electric car as green energy is more of hype. The energy for charging the car comes from Three Gorges Dam or coal fired power station.

Exactly, that is why Tesla is not killed by the cabal but Stanley is. Stanley doesn't need cabal electricity or fuel to run his car.