TJS and group to form new party

[Satyr]

Just saw TJS on TV. The first thing he should do is work on his image. Farker has a forced smile that doesn't look sincere at all.

Yeah his look is a problem. The guy's delivery isn't bad though.

 

[steffychun]

Yeah his look is a problem. The guy's delivery isn't bad though.

Delivery but can he connect with the dialect groups?

 

[3_M]

A Singaporean First Party plays directly into the hands of the PAPzis. One crucial strategy of the PAPzis continued stay in power is the votes of new shitizens. What the PAPzis have done is to deliberately create a great divide between new shitizens and true blue Singaporeans. By supporting new shitizens and foreigners, the PAPzis deliberately created a hate frenzy between the two groups by instigating Singaporeans to cry out against foreigners. The net result of this strategy is new shitizens voting for the PAPzis who they see as protecting them. The PAPzis are confident that they have a solid pool of 40%+ of votes. With votes from new shitizens they expect to scrape through again with about 55% of votes and a more than 2/3 majority in parliament.

TJS has just further entranched the PAPzi strategy of divide and conquer of new shitizens and Singaporeans. When it comes time to vote, of course do not vote for the PAPzis as there is still a good change that they can all be voted out with a Singaporean based vote swing of 10-15%. Vote for alternative candidates even if you think they are stooges. If these people want to hang themselves in front of the public then it is our job to give them the rope and even help them to tie the noose when required. The first job must not be forgotten and that is to vote out the PAPzis, log stock and barrel.

I don't really subscribe to this conspiracy theory. I can attest that the govt is making a lot of effort towards integrating foreigners and citizens. I read confidential email of MDA guideline to MSM, even at one point help to vet their propaganda (and vomit blood). Just for the S50 celebration, MCYS is spending more than $10m on propaganda. All these efforts are gear towards educating sinkies that our ancestors were once migrants themselves and made us more receptive to new immigrants.

Having spent so much resources on integration , do you think it makes sense for PAP to counter their own effort by sending moles to polarise the society in this direction?

 

[tanwahp]

Some observations about Singaporeans First:

1. Starting out with no Indians but that situation might change by the GE after a recruitment drive.

2. Ex PAP credentials heavily sold but in reality 7 out of 11 were from opposition parties. 3 SDP/NSP, 2 DPP, 1 WP, 1 SPP.*Which makes SF similar to NSP or Socialist Front than RP which recruited freshmen from the market.

3. The team lacks people for legwork and organizing. Other than Patrick Loke who ran TJS presidential campaign, the rest in their past parties have no record. Fahmi Rais is a proverbial organization collector. Check his background and it'll tell you that he was from SDP and NSP for short times without showing up for anything. The colonel is nearing 70. The 2 ex DPP chaps hopped on without doing anything for DPP in the last one year.

4. TJS's leadership is the key factor and remains to be seen. You don't need KJ to stunt your party; even Chiam faced the problem. It will depend on how he meets the expectations of his members. His credentials are exceptional, but so is CSM and people do criticize CSM all the same. Already, many opposition supporters are expressing disappointment with TJS and he has yet to touch PAP and neutral voters.

 

[ChaoPappyPoodle]

I don't really subscribe to this conspiracy theory. I can attest that the govt is making a lot of effort towards integrating foreigners and citizens. I read confidential email of MDA guideline to MSM, even at one point help to vet their propaganda (and vomit blood). Just for the S50 celebration, MCYS is spending more than $10m on propaganda. All these efforts are gear towards educating sinkies that our ancestors were once migrants themselves and made us more receptive to new immigrants.

Having spent so much resources on integration , do you think it makes sense for PAP to counter their own effort by sending moles to polarise the society in this direction?

It is not a consrpiracy theory. It is a stragety to garner as many votes as possible from new shitizens. You also seem to be naive to think and that all the machinery has been aimed at making foreigners feel at home here more than Singaporeans. You are even more naive to believe that truly important information is shared via emails. If you have ever been involved with big machinery and their shenanigans you will know that really important or harmful information is either done in person or at the very least via telephone if the information is not deemed too dangerous and the parties involved are deemed kakinang.

You can and should be assured that the PAPzis main concern if with their own economic well-being and their continued stay in power. Everything else comes second or even third as is the case with Singaporean's well-being.

 

[cunnilaubu]

The colonel is nearing 70.

The colonel was Commander CMPB, the same time when AYG was CO MCC.

 

[tonychat]

i called them vote-diluting party (VDP)

 

[Jah_rastafar_I]

Some observations about Singaporeans First:

1. Starting out with no Indians but that situation might change by the GE after a recruitment drive.

2. Ex PAP credentials heavily sold but in reality 7 out of 11 were from opposition parties. 3 SDP/NSP, 2 DPP, 1 WP, 1 SPP.*Which makes SF similar to NSP or Socialist Front than RP which recruited freshmen from the market.

3. The team lacks people for legwork and organizing. Other than Patrick Loke who ran TJS presidential campaign, the rest in their past parties have no record. Fahmi Rais is a proverbial organization collector. Check his background and it'll tell you that he was from SDP and NSP for short times without showing up for anything. The colonel is nearing 70. The 2 ex DPP chaps hopped on without doing anything for DPP in the last one year.

4. TJS's leadership is the key factor and remains to be seen. You don't need KJ to stunt your party; even Chiam faced the problem. It will depend on how he meets the expectations of his members. His credentials are exceptional, but so is CSM and people do criticize CSM all the same. Already, many opposition supporters are expressing disappointment with TJS and he has yet to touch PAP and neutral voters.

So what if there are no indians? Do you think they need to have indians just for the sake of having indians OR ppl that have the caliber and the talent who just happen to be indians.

Seriously i truly find your reasoning to be well stupid. It's like they need to have indians in their party ALL simply because they are indians.

 

[tanwahp]

So what if there are no indians? Do you think they need to have indians just for the sake of having indians OR ppl that have the caliber and the talent who just happen to be indians.

Seriously i truly find your reasoning to be well stupid. It's like they need to have indians in their party ALL simply because they are indians.

This mindset is not an invention of mine. Every group would like to be represented although at varying degrees from person to person, and not needful to the extent that you need GRCs.

It is also not about roping them in without other factors involved, but if a party did not have balanced representation, people are bound to suspect something is wrong.

 

[jw5]

He should have kept the shophouse at MacDonald's House. Would be useful now.

Some observations about Singaporeans First:

1. Starting out with no Indians but that situation might change by the GE after a recruitment drive.

2. Ex PAP credentials heavily sold but in reality 7 out of 11 were from opposition parties. 3 SDP/NSP, 2 DPP, 1 WP, 1 SPP.*Which makes SF similar to NSP or Socialist Front than RP which recruited freshmen from the market.

3. The team lacks people for legwork and organizing. Other than Patrick Loke who ran TJS presidential campaign, the rest in their past parties have no record. Fahmi Rais is a proverbial organization collector. Check his background and it'll tell you that he was from SDP and NSP for short times without showing up for anything. The colonel is nearing 70. The 2 ex DPP chaps hopped on without doing anything for DPP in the last one year.

4. TJS's leadership is the key factor and remains to be seen. You don't need KJ to stunt your party; even Chiam faced the problem. It will depend on how he meets the expectations of his members. His credentials are exceptional, but so is CSM and people do criticize CSM all the same. Already, many opposition supporters are expressing disappointment with TJS and he has yet to touch PAP and neutral voters.

 

[jw5]

He looks stodgy, some may say stuck up or pompous.

Yeah his look is a problem. The guy's delivery isn't bad though.

 

[zeebjii]

Don't worry about spoilers or stooges. Just vote any party that is not pappy party. You can sort out the details later.

It matters..A LOT. The spoiler sent tony tan to istana. If tan jee jay and his team of jokers choose 3-way fight with wp, i hope voters will be wise to see through this despicable trick.

 

[jw5]

It matters..A LOT. The spoiler sent tony tan to istana. If tan jee jay and his team of jokers choose 3-way fight with wp, i hope voters will be wise to see through this despicable trick.

My view is simple. PAP vs Opposition (any opposition regardless of Larry, Curly or Moe), vote opposition.
3 way fight is a different matter, it may also allow us to confirm who are the real stooges. In this case, vote for the non-stooge opposition.

You vote Opposition guy, he may or may not back PAP, but it will certainly be entertaining. (yes, I admit, I'm looking for entertainment too)
The stooge may also suddenly realise it's better to be in power than continue being a stooge.
By then, we can also slowly sort out the stooges from the slightly more altrustic true opposition party guy, it will be fun observing them in action too.
Meanwhile, the pap guys will also have their own sorting out to do, especially if they are now the opposition.

You vote PAP guy, for sure nothing will change, he will 100% toe party line and worst of all, likely to be boring shit.

 

[jw5]

Lemme ask everyone this question:

Hypothetically, LHL and his PAP team vs TJS and his SFP team in AMK GRC.

Take into account everything, i.e. the state of the country, your own life, family, work, perspectives, mindset, goals and aspirations, desire for entertainment lol, your knowledge/thoughts/perception/suspicion about the 2 individuals, and also their team-mates, how pap has governed over the years, how much or how little you know about SFP and their founding members, etc etc etc.

Who will you vote for? What you gonna do?

WHAT YOU GONNA DO?

 

[eatshitndie]

as a follow up to the forming of the sinkie first party, the lgbt community of sg is contemplating forming the sinkie fist party. all inductees of the sinkie fist party will be subjected to a deep indoctrination technique known as fisting. meanwhile, the fecal matter community of sg is mulling a bowel movement called the sinkie faeces party.

 

[bushtucker]

Just saw TJS on TV. The first thing he should do is work on his image. Farker has a forced smile that doesn't look sincere at all.

you make him sound like The Joker:

 

[Unrepented]

The real spoiler in the presidential election was Tan Kin Lian. The other three Tans were legit candidates.

TKL=2nd lvl insurance. guess 1st lvl ins who? so to confirm kfc.

 

[scroobal]

When there is a fire, you have to put it out. The integration programme is necessary as the FT intake consequences was misjudged. People are affected and there is a lot go aggro and noise.

Political intrigue is seldom seen within the bureaucracy with some rare exception such as Janadas Devan caught red handed with his credentials on a draft, Teo Chee Hean disclosing what went on in WP CEC and Old man revealing Francis Seow's Amex expenses. These are the odd slippages, error of judgement. No matter how many confidential communication you see you not across these things.

Ask Seow Khee Leng what happened to him when the authorities found that the Malaysian govt funded his campaign?

I don't really subscribe to this conspiracy theory. I can attest that the govt is making a lot of effort towards integrating foreigners and citizens. I read confidential email of MDA guideline to MSM, even at one point help to vet their propaganda (and vomit blood). Just for the S50 celebration, MCYS is spending more than $10m on propaganda. All these efforts are gear towards educating sinkies that our ancestors were once migrants themselves and made us more receptive to new immigrants.

Having spent so much resources on integration , do you think it makes sense for PAP to counter their own effort by sending moles to polarise the society in this direction?

 

[jw5]

Vote opposition first always and vote PAP out. Sort out the wheat from the chaff in the victorious opposition parties later. Establish your own league table/ranking system if you like after PAP is out. PAP and their IB head/minions would simply LOVE IT if we try to be too smartass and nitpick on every guy who tries to stand on an opposition ticket.

Bytheway, do you know what would be better than an opposition victory in a GRC?

An opposition victory with the following % of votes:

Opposition Party A: 36%
Opposition Party B: 34%
PAP: 30%

ROTFL..................................

 

[jw5]

Bytheway, is Goh Meng Seng on sabbatical from this thread?

ROTFL.............................

Goh Meng Seng

You should form a party with this chap:

Mark Andrew Yeo Kah Ch$ng

LOL ....................... LOL