tiagong, HK people have big balls

[rambo22]

 

[Scrooball (clone)]

Easy for these protestors to say. Most of them are jobless and don't run businesses.

 

[Sideswipe]

if they don't want too many mainland visitors, why don't they reduce their numbers allowed to enter HK daily whatever.

 

[red amoeba]

Hk is a province of China. They are neutered. Luckily we are not part of Malaysia otherwise we will be flooded by m&ds.

 

[glockman]

Hk is a province of China. They are neutered. Luckily we are not part of Malaysia otherwise we will be flooded by m&ds.

Nah, they can't afford

 

[Asterix]

Hongkies are like empty vassals - make a lot of noise but inside got no substance. Hongkies are also selfish and can't see beyond their noses aka 13 o'clock in CUNTonese slang. If they had allowed Tung Chee Wah to implement his 85,000 public flats every year program, their housing problem would have been solved by now, but they could not see beyond their noses and cannot tahan the short term pain and started banging gongs on the streets which led to ... ... ... ... ... ... more PAIN ... ... ... this time permanent and long term ... ... ... serve these NOISY and SELFISH CUNTonese right

If HK has one man one vote type of democracy, the place will instantly become Third World.

 

[Narong Wongwan]

Hk is a province of China. They are neutered. Luckily we are not part of Malaysia otherwise we will be flooded by m&ds.

I think the johoreans say the same about sinkie causeway warriors

 

[Scrooball (clone)]

I think the johoreans say the same about sinkie causeway warriors

They wish. By the end of 2020, $1sgd = more than $3.2myr easily

 

[Hypocrite-The]

I am glad that at least even under a dictatorship, Hongkies can discuss and bring issues up. Hopefully this housing shortage and the problems they face will bring about solutions to the issues. Also one other point about HK is that alot of migrants have flooded into HK since 97,,,and mainlanders have purchase HK property,,,same problems singkies faced with the floodgate problems....perhaps they can close the floodgates, but I am not sure if the ah tiong gahmen will allow,,

Government has ‘grossly underestimated’ demand for new homes, Our Hong Kong Foundation says

• Group says government’s projections do not consider different generations of families forced to share flats
• The organisation has called on authorities to revise methodology, saying the official target of 450,000 flats over the next decade is not enough

PUBLISHED : Monday, 21 January, 2019, 7:00am
UPDATED : Monday, 21 January, 2019, 8:41am

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Our Hong Kong Foundation, founded by former chief executive Tung Chee-hwa, said the city’s target of building 450,000 flats in the next decade was not enough.
It argued that the way the government calculated the need for homes did not take into account a “pent-up demand” caused by families who would have chosen to live separately if there had been an adequate supply of affordable homes.
The think tank said the average living space had shrunk for those in the private sector, as more people were forced to live together in cramped conditions.
It pointed to figures from the Census and Statistics Department, which showed the average household size for private rental units surged from 3.09 to 3.47 people per flat between 2006 and 2016. The increase in household size meant a slower net growth in the number of households.

In comparison, the average household size of public housing was 2.73 people per flat in 2016.
“What we see now is that a lot of Hong Kong families [living in private housing] are forced to live together, sometimes three generations together, because [the younger generation] have been unable to afford high rents or to buy property in the past 10 years,” said the think tank’s senior researcher Ryan Ip Man-ki.
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“This pent-up demand is not reflected in the government’s projection and therefore there is a gross underestimation of the housing demand,” he said.
The government, which updates a 10-year forecast annually, had reduced its construction target from 480,000 flats by 2025, to 450,000 flats in its latest projection that runs to 2029. It cited slower net growth in the number of households.

Our Hong Kong Foundation researchers said the government’s current projection, based on past population trends, was problematic because it assumed people would choose to continue to live in cramped quarters as was the case for the past decade.
“The projection perpetuates a vicious cycle. If it continues to make the projection with that assumption, then it would continue to project fewer and fewer flats than we actually need,” Ip said.
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They argued that if people were given the choice to live separately with more space, the average household size would have dropped faster below the current level, resulting in a higher number of households and more need for homes.
The group called on officials to revise their methodology.
The think tank has supported the government’s bid to increase land supply through different means, including a massive land reclamation project, known as Lantau Tomorrow Vision, to the west of Hong Kong Island.

Paul Yip Siu-fai, chair professor of population health at the University of Hong Kong disagreed that the official methodology was problematic, although he acknowledged the city’s red-hot property market had influenced normal demographic changes.
“All population projections have to be based on historical trends, because we don’t have a crystal ball … but indeed it is true that Hong Kong’s property prices have distorted and compressed a normal demographic housing transition,” Yip said.
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Stanley Wong Yuen-fai, who chairs the government-appointed Task Force on Land Supply, pointed out there was a need to look at the average household size for the city as a whole, noting the average household size in public housing was smaller.
Wong however agreed that the government’s predicted shortfall of 1,200 hectares in the next three decades, 230 hectares of which was for housing, did not include the city’s aspirations for its future generations to live in bigger flats.

A spokesman for the Transport and Housing Bureau, in response to the Post’s inquiries, said that the Long Term Housing Strategy demand projection model “defines housing demand as the total number of new housing units required to provide adequate housing to each and every household over the long term.”
It did not respond directly to the foundation’s comment on whether it has underestimated the housing demand, but pointed out that the projection was not based only on historical trends, and also took into account forecasts of demographic changes, economic growth and property market situations in the coming decade.
It said it also factored in Hong Kong people’s wishes to live in more spacious flats, as one of the model’s key demand components accounted for the housing needs of those who are inadequately housed. This includes those living in subdivided flats, squatters and units in non-residential buildings.
Hong Kong’s per capita living space of 160 sq ft per person is one of the lowest in the region, falling behind Singapore at 270 sq ft per person and Tokyo at 210 sq ft per person.
Our Hong Kong Foundation also attempted to use another way to show there was “repressed housing demand” by comparing the number of flats built with the number of demographic events – first marriages, divorces, births and deaths – during the same period.
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It assumed each newlywed couple, divorce and birth represented the need for one more flat and each death represented the need for one fewer.
The results showed that in 2013 to 2017, for every net demographic event, only 0.44 flats were built.
Ip agreed there were limitations to this calculation, as, for example, in reality a couple may not need to move to a new flat after they have a child.
He said the foundation was trying to offer a more “unique perspective” in showing the unmet housing demands.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

We don’t want your money: Chinese shoppers told to spend cash elsewhere by frustrated Hongkongers who just want some peace and quiet

• Tuen Mun protest groups urge tourists to stay at home as anti-mainland sentiment grows
• Visitors are a ‘nuisance’ who are forcing small businesses out of the area, claims concern group

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A group of 10 activists gathered at the cross-border bus terminus and urged the tourists to buy new year necessities at home instead.

“Please stop coming to Hong Kong any more. You should go back and strive for better food safety and lower import tariffs,” urged the activists from Population Policy Concern Group, and community-based Tuen Mun Siu Tsui Concern Group, and Tuen Mun Community Network.
Lance Yan Pui-lam, the spokesman for Siu Tsui, said he had been living in Tuen Mun for more than 30 years and witnessed how the influx of mainland shoppers made the town overcrowded, and lead to skyrocketing rents and forcing small businesses out of the area.
“They have brought very serious nuisance to the whole community,” Yan said. “Only the landlords and businesses benefit from the rising number of tourists. Common people cannot share the benefits but have to bear the negative consequences.”
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Tam said the figures translated to some 140,000 mainland Chinese tourist arrivals a day, which, even if spread evenly across the city’s 18 district, still meant almost 8,000 per district per day.
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“How do we find space to absorb all these extra people?” Tam said.
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The two-hour protest was relatively peaceful, but at one point two more protesters – who the activists said did not belong to any of the groups – turned up and heckled mainland tourists about to board border-crossing buses.

The pair held a placard that read “Hong Kong people do not welcome Chinese people” and shouted expletives at the tourist.
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Chan, who has worked part-timer at a retailer in the past, agreed that the government should control the number of mainland tourists. But, she said requiring one visit every six months was too tough and would hurt the local retail industry.

Yu Jianwei, who came to Hong Kong with his wife and son from Beijing, said he understood some Hongkongers felt their lives were affected, but that they should find a solution with the government, instead of venting their anger at mainlanders.
“If Hong Kong closes its border [to the mainland], it will starve to death in one day,” Yu said. “Where do you get your water and vegetables?”
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This article appeared in the South China Morning Post print edition as: Activists protest against Mainland visitor numbers

 

[rocket]

Easy for these protestors to say. Most of them are jobless and don't run businesses.

Ducking balless

 

[ckmpd]

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HK guys, unlike SG guys, are not ball less

 

[Asterix]

Hongkies have big balls and small brains. This led them to protest on the streets unlike Tung Chee Hwa hounded out of office. Without Tung's 85,000 public flats a year program, what these stupid Hongkies got in return were still higher property prices with no relief in sight. Serve these idiots right. The problems will be even worse if they get what they want which is one idiot one vote ... ... ...

 

[rushifa666]

Hongkies are like empty vassals - make a lot of noise but inside got no substance. Hongkies are also selfish and can't see beyond their noses aka 13 o'clock in CUNTonese slang. If they had allowed Tung Chee Wah to implement his 85,000 public flats every year program, their housing problem would have been solved by now, but they could not see beyond their noses and cannot tahan the short term pain and started banging gongs on the streets which led to ... ... ... ... ... ... more PAIN ... ... ... this time permanent and long term ... ... ... serve these NOISY and SELFISH CUNTonese right

If HK has one man one vote type of democracy, the place will instantly become Third World.

That doesnt deal with the mainland chjnks at all.

 

[Asterix]

That doesnt deal with the mainland chjnks at all.

My point is ........... Hongkies are just as rude as the PRC Chinks that they are complaining about ........... and that should not surprise anyone because they are from the same root ........... PRC Chinks and Hongkie Chinks are ONE and the same ............. most Hongkies came from or had parents or grandparents that originally came from mainland China ...... they were just going from one part of mainland China to another part ......... not like the ancestors of Sinkie Chinese who had to adapt to a different culture ............

The underlying premise of this video - that HK once upon a time had a reputation for politeness - is nothing but BULLSHIT. My parents visited HK once in the 1970s and they were so pissed off by the rudeness of the people that they never wanted to go there again. It is typical of Hongkies to blow their own trumpet, even if they know that what they are claiming is false ...........

 

[Hypocrite-The]

My point is ........... Hongkies are just as rude as the PRC Chinks that they are complaining about ........... and that should not surprise anyone because they are from the same root ........... PRC Chinks and Hongkie Chinks are ONE and the same ............. most Hongkies came from or had parents or grandparents that originally came from mainland China ...... they were just going from one part of mainland China to another part ......... not like the ancestors of Sinkie Chinese who had to adapt to a different culture ............

The underlying premise of this video - that HK once upon a time had a reputation for politeness - is nothing but BULLSHIT. My parents visited HK once in the 1970s and they were so pissed off by the rudeness of the people that they never wanted to go there again. It is typical of Hongkies to blow their own trumpet, even if they know that what they are claiming is false ...........

I dont have the issue,,,I was there in the 90s and last year. HK has changed but the people are ok. U respect them, they respect u. But they will not tolerate ppl rude to them. Saw at the airport the AH tiong trigger the metal detector and the guard was just doing his job to initiate secondary protocols but kenna fucked by the ah tiong,,,the ah tiong guai lan and kenna told off by the guard. Overall I am happier with the service standards in Hk than in singkieland.

 

[mojito]

If HK has PAP, they not be complaining all the time. Be grateful lah, silly oppies!

 

[Asterix]

I dont have the issue,,,I was there in the 90s and last year. HK has changed but the people are ok. U respect them, they respect u. But they will not tolerate ppl rude to them. Saw at the airport the AH tiong trigger the metal detector and the guard was just doing his job to initiate secondary protocols but kenna fucked by the ah tiong,,,the ah tiong guai lan and kenna told off by the guard. Overall I am happier with the service standards in Hk than in singkieland.

Hongkie people always like to think they are superior to mainland Chinks, when in fact they are just as bad as the mainland Chinks and that should come as no surprise, because they are both from the same root without another culture (like Malay culture influencing Southeast Asian overseas Chinese or Ang Moh culture influencing ABCs) coming into the picture.

This is how the Hongkies behave towards each other on a daily basis:



Give them one idiot one vote and you will get complete paralysis ........... a descend into the Third World in double quick time ............... btw the Kowloon Arts Center is still a work in progress whereas Singapore's Arts Center was completed aeons ago ............. and these useless Hongkies are still consulting ahem I mean quarreling over that damn Arts Center while the rest of the world pass them by ......... and yes the taxis are still divided into red, green and blue (taxi drivers still do not speak English and they are still using 1980s Toyota Crowns) and Uber is still illegal .............. Asia's World City MY FOOT

 

[Hypocrite-The]

Hongkie people always like to think they are superior to mainland Chinks, when in fact they are just as bad as the mainland Chinks and that should come as no surprise, because they are both from the same root without another culture (like Malay culture influencing Southeast Asian overseas Chinese or Ang Moh culture influencing ABCs) coming into the picture.

This is how the Hongkies behave towards each other on a daily basis:



Give them one idiot one vote and you will get complete paralysis ........... a descend into the Third World in double quick time ............... btw the Kowloon Arts Center is still a work in progress whereas Singapore's Arts Center was completed aeons ago ............. and these useless Hongkies are still consulting ahem I mean quarreling over that damn Arts Center while the rest of the world pass them by ......... and yes the taxis are still divided into red, green and blue (taxi drivers still do not speak English and they are still using 1980s Toyota Crowns) and Uber is still illegal .............. Asia's World City MY FOOT

If u dont like HK dont go. And to think singkies have the vote for decades and still vote PAP,,,,as if singkies are better than hongkies,,,Hong Kong has a lot of issues and if the ah tiongs never interfear etc, they will do much better than even singkieland. and as i said, u dont like it, dont go.

 

[Asterix]

If u dont like HK dont go. And to think singkies have the vote for decades and still vote PAP,,,,as if singkies are better than hongkies,,,Hong Kong has a lot of issues and if the ah tiongs never interfear etc, they will do much better than even singkieland. and as i said, u dont like it, dont go.

HK has lots of issues even BEFORE Ah Yeah (aka Beijing) put its feet down. Most of these issues are caused by the noisy and inconsiderate Hongkies themselves.

These JOKERS even think it's their fundamental human right to hang their laundry to dry in public places. Did Ah Yeah (aka Beijing) force them to do such anti-social things?

Bloody hell, these people are so thick skinned, this woman even thinks it's a sign of Hongkies' creativeness to hang their laundry to dry in public places What a load of CUNTonese BULLSHIT