The Qur'an heavenly or earthly?

[drifter]

Really? Can you show me anywhere in the Bible that says that?

son , you mean my bible never teach you all human sins ?

 

[Kinana]

son , you mean my bible never teach you all human sins ?

Really? Didn't you say something about original sin and that babies are born with sin? Where is that found in the Bible?

 

[drifter]

Really? Didn't you say something about original sin and that babies are born with sin? Where is that found in the Bible?

son , you are really stupid , you do not deserved to follow me

(Psalm 58:3) "The wicked are estranged from the womb; These who speak lies go astray from birth .

(Psalm 51:5) "Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, And in sin my mother conceived me." a sinful environment.

(Ephesians 2:3) "Among them we too all formerly lived in the lusts of our flesh, indulging the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, even as the rest."


son , go down on your knee now and repent ...or i will send you to hell .


( drifter 36:9 ) most people are bothered by those passages of scripture they do not understand,but the passages that bother me are those i do understand.

 

[drifter]

son , not only babies are sinner ..i also child abuse . son , in order to follow me and go heaven you must do what i have writen in the bible ...come to me ....



CHILD ABUSE - Genesis 22:2 (NIV)
Then God said, "Take your son, your only son, Isaac, whom you love, and go to the region of Moriah. Sacrifice him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains I will tell you about."

CHILD ABUSE - GOD KILLS - Genesis 38:7
But Er, Judah's firstborn, was wicked in the LORD's sight; so the LORD put him to death.

CHILD ABUSE - Proverbs 13:24 - KING SOLOMON (NAB)
He who spares the rod hates his son, but he who loves him takes care to chastise him.

CHILD ABUSE - Proverbs 19:18-19 - KING SOLOMON (NAB)
"Chastise your son, for in this there is hope, but do not desire his death. The man of violent temper pays the penalty; even if you rescue him, you will have to do it again."

CHILD ABUSE - Proverbs 20:30
Blows and wounds cleanse away evil, and beatings purge the inmost being.

CHILD ABUSE - Proverbs 22:15 - KING SOLOMON
Foolishness is bound in the heart of a child; but the rod of correction shall drive it far from him.

CHILD ABUSE - Proverbs 23:13-14 - KING SOLOMON (NIV)
Do not withhold discipline from a child; if you punish him with the rod, he will not die. Punish him with the rod and save his soul from death.

CHILD ABUSE - Proverbs 29:15 - KING SOLOMON
The rod of correction imparts wisdom, but a child left to himself disgraces his mother.

CHILD ABUSE - Exodus 20:5 [part of one of the three sets of 10 Commandments - see Deuteronomy 5:9 below]
"... for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me."

CHILD SACRIFICE - Exodus 20:29,30 (NIV)
"You must give me the firstborn of your sons. Do the same with your cattle and your sheep. Let them stay with their mothers for seven days, but give them to me on the eighth day."

CHILD ABUSE - Deuteronomy 5:9 [part of one of the three sets of 10 Commandments - see Exodus 20:5 above]
"for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me."

CHILD EXECUTION - Deuteronomy 21:18-21
If a man has a stubborn and rebellious son who does not obey his father and mother and will not listen to them when they discipline him, his father and mother shall take hold of him and bring him to the elders at the gate of the town. They shall say to the elders, 'This son of ours is stubborn and rebellious. He will not obey us. He is a profligate and a drunkard.' Then all the men of his town shall stone him to death...

CHILD EXECUTION - Deuteronomy 2:34
And we took all [Sihon's] cities at that time, and utterly destroyed the men, and the women, and the little ones, of every city, we left none to remain.

CHILD ABUSE - 2 Kings 2:23-24
From there Elisha went up to Bethel. As he was walking along the road, some youths came out of the town and jeered at him. "Go on up, you baldhead!" they said. "Go on up, you baldhead!" He turned around, looked at them and called down a curse on them in the name of the LORD. Then two bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the youths.

CHILD ABUSE - Leviticus 20:9
For everyone who curses his father or his mother shall surely be put to death. He has cursed his father or his mother. His blood shall be upon him.

CHILD ABUSE - GOD ON ATTACKING ONE'S PARENTS - Exodus 21:15
"Anyone who attacks his father or his mother must be put to death."

CHILD ABUSE - GOD ON CURSING ONE'S PARENTS - Exodus 21:17
"Anyone who curses his father or mother must be put to death."

CHILD ABUSE - Exodus 34:6-7 [part of one of the three sets of 10 Commandments]
The LORD, the LORD, the compassionate and gracious God, slow to anger, abounding in love and faithfulness, maintaining love to thousands, and forgiving wickedness, rebellion and sin. Yet he does not leave the guilty unpunished; he punishes the children and their children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation.

CHILD ABUSE - GOD WILL KILL THE CHILDREN OF SINNERS - Leviticus 26:21-22 (NLT)
"If even then you remain hostile toward me and refuse to obey, I will inflict you with seven more disasters for your sins. I will release wild animals that will kill your children and destroy your cattle, so your numbers will dwindle and your roads will be deserted."

CHILD ABUSE AND HUMAN SACRIFICE - KILL SONS FOR THE SINS OF THEIR FATHERS - Isaiah 14:21
Prepare a place to slaughter his sons for the sins of their forefathers; they are not to rise to inherit the land and cover the earth with their cities.

CHILD ABUSE - Deuteronomy 23:2 (KJV)
A bastard shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to his tenth generation shall he not enter into the congregation of the LORD.
[NOTE: It can be argued that Jesus was a bastard, because his parents weren't married. Also, how many people can be sure that all ten generations of their ancestors (1023 couples) were married?]

CHILD ABUSE - Deuteronomy 8:5
Know then in your heart that as a man disciplines his son, so the LORD your God disciplines you.

CHILD ABUSE - Deuteronomy 20:13-14
When the LORD your God delivers [a city] into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it. As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves.

CHILD ABUSE - Nahum 3:10
Yet was she carried away, she went into captivity: her young children also were dashed in pieces at the top of all the streets: and they cast lots for her honourable men, and all her great men were bound in chains.

CHILD ABUSE - Isaiah 13:16
Their infants will be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses will be looted and their wives ravished.

CHILD ABUSE - Isaiah 13:18
Their bows will strike down the young men; they will have no mercy on infants nor will they look with compassion on children.

CHILD ABUSE - 2 Samuel 12:13-14
Then David said to Nathan, "I have sinned against the LORD." Nathan replied, "The LORD has taken away your sin. You are not going to die. But because by doing this you have made the enemies of the LORD show utter contempt, the son born to you will die." [The child dies seven days later.]

CHILD ABUSE AND HUMAN SACRIFICE - Judges 11:30-31
And Jephthah made a vow to the LORD: "If you give the Ammonites into my hands, whatever comes out of the door of my house to meet me when I return in triumph from the Ammonites will be the LORD's, and I will sacrifice it as a burnt offering." [Jephthah's daughter ends up as the burnt offering.]

CHILD ABUSE - Hosea 9:12
"Even if they rear children, I will bereave them of every one."

CHILD ABUSE - Hosea 9:16 (NLT)
"The people of Israel are struck down. Their roots are dried up, and they will bear no more fruit. And if they give birth, I will slaughter their beloved children."

CHILD ABUSE - Psalm 109:9-13
May his children be fatherless and his wife a widow. May his children be wandering beggars; may they be driven from their ruined homes. May a creditor seize all he has; may strangers plunder the fruits of his labor. May no one extend kindness to him or take pity on his fatherless children. May his descendants be cut off, their names blotted out from the next generation.

CHILD ABUSE - Psalm 137:8-9 (KJV)
O daughter of Babylon, who art to be destroyed; happy shall he be, that rewardeth thee as thou hast served us. Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasheth thy little ones against the stones.

CHILD ABUSE - Hosea 13:16
... because they have rebelled against their God. They will fall by the sword; their little ones will be dashed to the ground, their pregnant women ripped open.

CHILD ABUSE AND HUMAN SACRIFICE - Ezekiel 20:26 (NIV)
"I let them become defiled through their gifts — the sacrifice of every firstborn — that I might fill them with horror so they would know that I am the LORD."

CHILD ABUSE - Ezekiel 23:46,47 (KJV)
For thus saith the Lord GOD; "I will bring up a company upon them, and will give them to be removed and spoiled. And the company shall stone them with stones, and dispatch them with their swords; they shall slay their sons and their daughters, and burn up their houses with fire."

 

[Kinana]

son , you are really stupid , you do not deserved to follow me

(Psalm 58:3) "The wicked are estranged from the womb; These who speak lies go astray from birth .

It says they go astray from birth, it did not say they were born with sin.

(Psalm 51:5) "Behold, I was brought forth in iniquity, And in sin my mother conceived me." a sinful environment.

It says the mother is a sinner, not the baby. can't you read?

(Ephesians 2:3) "Among them we too all formerly lived in the lusts of our flesh, indulging the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, even as the rest."

By nature of children of wrath sir. You too can be considered child of your father even though you are grown up now.

So you see, no verses in the Bible talks about babies born with sin at all like Muslims love to claim.

Cheers

 

[drifter]

It says they go astray from birth, it did not say they were born with sin.




It says the mother is a sinner, not the baby. can't you read?




By nature of children of wrath sir. You too can be considered child of your father even though you are grown up now.

So you see, no verses in the Bible talks about babies born with sin at all like Muslims love to claim.

Cheers

son , what took you so long to post ? have to think how to post ? son, we have to spread the good news , remember ?

"It says they go astray from birth, it did not say they were born with sin.

do you know the meaning of FROM birth ? FROM birth means born with sin son, do you want to write your own bible too ? let me know if you want to write your own bible , i can help you


"By nature of children of wrath sir. You too can be considered child of your father even though you are grown up now ".

so if a 40 years old man commited a crime can he go RTC or boys home instead of prison ? repent son , you really have to read my bible every night before you sleep ...if not you cannot spread our " good news : .



" It says the mother is a sinner, not the baby. can't you read? "

you mean all mother is a sinner ? what type of sins your mother commited ? your mother sell her body on the street ?



Matt 19v14:

"Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven."

by the way , i always said , men are born sinner ..son , you want to change my bible again ?




Psalm 58:3, "The WICKED are ESTRANGED from the WOMB : they go astray as soon as they are BORN , speaking lies." one more from my great bible

 

[Kinana]

do you know the meaning of FROM birth ? FROM birth means born with sin son, do you want to write your own bible too ? let me know if you want to write your own bible , i can help you

There is a basic difference between with and from in case you are not aware my dear boy.

so if a 40 years old man commited a crime can he go RTC or boys home instead of prison ? repent son , you really have to read my bible every night before you sleep ...if not you cannot spread our " good news : .

Are you not your father's child?

you mean all mother is a sinner ? what type of sins your mother commited ? your mother sell her body on the street ?

Big or small sins, a sinner is a sinner. So by the time the women becomes a mother, she sinned before.

Matt 19v14:

"Suffer little children, and forbid them not, to come unto me: for of such is the kingdom of heaven."

by the way , i always said , men are born sinner ..son , you want to change my bible again ?

Amen, but the problem is, you are acting too smart already, you need more childlike trust to get saved my fren.

Psalm 58:3, "The WICKED are ESTRANGED from the WOMB : they go astray as soon as they are BORN , speaking lies." one more from my great bible

It didn't say they were born with sin did it? There you go.

 

[drifter]

There is a basic difference between with and from in case you are not aware my dear boy.




Are you not your father's child?



Big or small sins, a sinner is a sinner. So by the time the women becomes a mother, she sinned before.



Amen, but the problem is, you are acting too smart already, you need more childlike trust to get saved my fren.





It didn't say they were born with sin did it? There you go.

"There is a basic difference between with and from in case you are not aware my dear boy."

son , you are born FROM your mother cheeby ...means what ? FROM your mother cheeby comes out you so the word FROM is used to specify a starting point astray FROM birth means what ? means FROM cheeby come out babies already astray . (Psalm 58:3) "The wicked are estranged FROM the womb; These who speak lies go astray FROM birth . . but of course you can urgue born FROM your mother cheeby you are already adult


Are you not your father's child?

im my father child but im definitely not a child under the law . (Ephesians 2:3) "Among them we too all formerly lived in the lusts of our flesh, indulging the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, even as the rest."


"Big or small sins, a sinner is a sinner. So by the time the women becomes a mother, she sinned before ' .

so when did a woman started to sins ? at what age give you one chance to think hard because this is a tricky question for you


"Amen, but the problem is, you are acting too smart already, you need more childlike trust to get saved my fren" .

of course im god i have to be smart ....if im not " smart " i dont think you want to follow me right ? but of course if you are in trouble i cannot protect you because i have many follower not you alone


"It didn't say they were born with sin did it? There you go. "

Psalm 58:3, "The WICKED are ESTRANGED from the WOMB : they go astray as soon as they are BORN , speaking lies."

if this is not born with sin why i must estranged the wicked ( baby ) from the womb ? you think i siao god is it anyhow estranged the " wicked " from the womb ? what about this sentence " they go astray as soon as they are BORN " ?


son , although you dont believe the bible , tomorrow you go church you also must give money ok ? dont believe god never mind just give money to my church enough liao

 

[Kinana]

"There is a basic difference between with and from in case you are not aware my dear boy."

son , you are born FROM your mother cheeby ...means what ? FROM your mother cheeby comes out you so the word FROM is used to specify a starting point astray FROM birth means what ? means FROM cheeby come out babies already astray . (Psalm 58:3) "The wicked are estranged FROM the womb; These who speak lies go astray FROM birth . . but of course you can urgue born FROM your mother cheeby you are already adult

Straying and sinning are different. You may stary but not sin. The Bible never talked about born with sin like you Muslims claimed bro.

Are you not your father's child?

im my father child but im definitely not a child under the law . (Ephesians 2:3) "Among them we too all formerly lived in the lusts of our flesh, indulging the desires of the flesh and of the mind, and were by nature children of wrath, even as the rest."

The same definition that applies to you and your father applies in the Bible.

"Big or small sins, a sinner is a sinner. So by the time the women becomes a mother, she sinned before ' .

so when did a woman started to sins ? at what age give you one chance to think hard because this is a tricky question for you

Not tricky at all. You sin when you come to consciousness that what you do is wrong.

"Amen, but the problem is, you are acting too smart already, you need more childlike trust to get saved my fren" .

of course im god i have to be smart ....if im not " smart " i dont think you want to follow me right ? but of course if you are in trouble i cannot protect you because i have many follower not you alone

Unfortunately my friend, you have proven yourself to be a fool.

You see, its so easy for me to debunk you. No sweat babe.

 

[drifter]

Straying and sinning are different. You may stary but not sin. The Bible never talked about born with sin like you Muslims claimed bro.




The same definition that applies to you and your father applies in the Bible.




Not tricky at all. You sin when you come to consciousness that what you do is wrong.




Unfortunately my friend, you have proven yourself to be a fool.

You see, its so easy for me to debunk you. No sweat babe.

"Straying and sinning are different. You may stary but not sin. The Bible never talked about born with sin like you Muslims claimed bro".


im jesus , son . how can you forget me ? since when did i say im a muslim ? show me . and my bible never say straying and sinning are different . show me when my great bible say its different son , telling lies is a sin you know beware son , you have sinned ...i will send you to hell if your dont repent ...but i loveeeeeees you



"
"Not tricky at all. You sin when you come to consciousness that what you do is wrong" .

son , show me proof that my bible say you sin when you come to consciouness that what you do is wrong ...son dont anyhow quote from my dirty bible by yourself



" Unfortunately my friend, you have proven yourself to be a fool.

You see, its so easy for me to debunk you. No sweat babe " .

son , how dare you call your father babe ? ...you are going to burn in hell

 

[Kinana]

"Straying and sinning are different. You may stary but not sin. The Bible never talked about born with sin like you Muslims claimed bro".


im jesus , son . how can you forget me ? since when did i say im a muslim ? show me . and my bible never say straying and sinning are different . show me when my great bible say its different son , telling lies is a sin you know beware son , you have sinned ...i will send you to hell if your dont repent ...but i loveeeeeees you )

Good to hear that you are not an atheist any more bro. Thats progress.
cheers

 

[drifter]

Good to hear that you are not an atheist any more bro. Thats progress.
cheers

"Straying and sinning are different. You may stary but not sin. The Bible never talked about born with sin like you Muslims claimed bro".


im jesus , son . how can you forget me ? since when did i say im a muslim ? show me . and my bible never say straying and sinning are different . show me when my great bible say its different son , telling lies is a sin you know beware son , you have sinned ...i will send you to hell if your dont repent ...but i loveeeeeees you



"
"Not tricky at all. You sin when you come to consciousness that what you do is wrong" .

son , show me proof that my bible say you sin when you come to consciouness that what you do is wrong ...son dont anyhow quote from my dirty bible by yourself



" Unfortunately my friend, you have proven yourself to be a fool.

You see, its so easy for me to debunk you. No sweat babe " .

son , how dare you call your father babe ? ...you are going to burn in hell



i already told you im your god . you really have a bad memory

 

[Kinana]

good that you are no more an atheist.

cheers

 

[drifter]

good that you are no more an atheist.

cheers

whahahha....no fun talking to you liao ...your brain too slow ..cant even urgue with style or wits .

 

[Kinana]

You claim to be god right? Thats a funny one. ahahahahahahahahah..............

cheers

 

[drifter]

You claim to be god right? Thats a funny one. ahahahahahahahahah..............

cheers

i dont need to claim , im already god . told you many times go and read my bible " god works in mysterious ways " .


give you one more chance to use your brain if you have ... to be my toy . think before you post , ok ?


"Straying and sinning are different. You may stary but not sin. The Bible never talked about born with sin like you Muslims claimed bro".


im jesus , son . how can you forget me ? since when did i say im a muslim ? show me . and my bible never say straying and sinning are different . show me when my great bible say its different son , telling lies is a sin you know beware son , you have sinned ...i will send you to hell if your dont repent ...but i loveeeeeees you



"
"Not tricky at all. You sin when you come to consciousness that what you do is wrong" .

son , show me proof that my bible say you sin when you come to consciouness that what you do is wrong ...son dont anyhow quote from my dirty bible by yourself

 

[fishbuff]

You claim to be god right? Thats a funny one. ahahahahahahahahah..............

cheers

you claim there is a god? Thats a funny one. ahahahahahahahahah..............

 

[Kinana]

you claim there is a god? Thats a funny one. ahahahahahahahahah..............

You claim there is no god? Thats even funnier. ahahahahahah................

cheers

 

[drifter]

You claim there is no god? Thats even funnier. ahahahahahah................

cheers

you claim you eat toe nails lagi funny whahahahaha....

 

[Kinana]

you claim you eat toe nails lagi funny whahahahaha....

As long as you are no more an atheist bro. Ahahahahahahahaha................

cheers