The Quran and Hadith teach about expanding Islam using violence

[JohnTan]

Nope. There were other races beforw jews arrived.

Never said there weren't.

The fact still stands that Jews were in Israel at least 1500 years before your mohammedan religion was invented by an arab pedophile.

 

[Likemeat]

Never said there weren't.

The fact still stands that Jews were in Israel at least 1500 years before your mohammedan religion was invented by an arab pedophile.

Nope. Present "israhell" belong to Palestinian. Ur zionist master stole it since 1948. Religious orthodox jews also reject the current illegal occupiers of israhell.

Day in and out never fail to mention pedophile. Be sure to wipe ur ass before u go to the confession booth.

 

[JohnTan]

Nope. Present "israhell" belong to Palestinian. Ur zionist master stole it since 1948.

Nope. The ancient Kingdom of Israel and Judea existed easily 1500 years before the invention of islam. No moslem lived in Israel till hundreds of years later when they invaded.

Religious orthodox jews also reject the current illegal occupiers of israhell

Overwhelming majority of orthodox Jews live in Israel.

Day in and out never fail to mention pedophile. Be sure to wipe ur ass before u go to the confession booth.

Because your only 'prophet' was a pedophile as described in your hadith scriptures. You're ashamed of your own 'prophet' .

 

[Loofydralb]

Again deliberately out of context. Always remember the Prophet will fight the enemies unnecesarily. What more killing. Time and again the hypocrites/ enemies broke the promise/pact during war. So is legit to fight them. Fm the Quran:

Surely the worst moving creatures in the sight of Allah are those who definitively denied the truth and are therefore in no way prepared to accept it; (especially) those with whom you entered into a covenant and then they broke their covenant time after time, and who do not fear Allah. So if you meet them in war, make of them a fearsome example for those who follow them, that they may he admonished. And if you fear treachery from any people (with whom you have a covenant) then publicly throw their covenant at them.43 Allah does not love the treacherous. (Q8:56-58)

They were actually traitorous. They pledged allegiance to the prophet but then backstabbed the Muslims later.
As is normal sentence for traitors.

 

[duluxe]

Again deliberately out of context. Always remember the Prophet will fight the enemies unnecesarily. What more killing. Time and again the hypocrites/ enemies broke the promise/pact during war. So is legit to fight them. Fm the Quran:

Surely the worst moving creatures in the sight of Allah are those who definitively denied the truth and are therefore in no way prepared to accept it; (especially) those with whom you entered into a covenant and then they broke their covenant time after time, and who do not fear Allah. So if you meet them in war, make of them a fearsome example for those who follow them, that they may he admonished. And if you fear treachery from any people (with whom you have a covenant) then publicly throw their covenant at them.43 Allah does not love the treacherous. (Q8:56-58)

The prophet did not break treaty or promise, you sure?

 

[duluxe]

Looting also involved.

@JohnTan The forum muslim scholar dare not say looting haram. The prophet did engage in caravan looting.

 

[JohnTan]

@JohnTan The forum muslim scholar dare not say looting haram. The prophet did engage in caravan looting.

Maybe that's why it's common to see moslems looting. Their islamic scriptures call looting as "taking war booty".

 

[duluxe]

They were actually traitorous. They pledged allegiance to the prophet but then backstabbed the Muslims later.
As is normal sentence for traitors.

There was a lot of unclaimed loot sitting around. loot, why there was loot?

None of the Prophet earliest biographers allege that Muhammad was under attack in Medina at the time of the first successful caravan raid.

 

[duluxe]

Again deliberately out of context. Always remember the Prophet will fight the enemies unnecesarily. What more killing. Time and again the hypocrites/ enemies broke the promise/pact during war. So is legit to fight them. Fm the Quran:

Surely the worst moving creatures in the sight of Allah are those who definitively denied the truth and are therefore in no way prepared to accept it; (especially) those with whom you entered into a covenant and then they broke their covenant time after time, and who do not fear Allah. So if you meet them in war, make of them a fearsome example for those who follow them, that they may he admonished. And if you fear treachery from any people (with whom you have a covenant) then publicly throw their covenant at them.43 Allah does not love the treacherous. (Q8:56-58)

Al-Tabari -Volume 8, Page 38
Muhammad had boys of Jewish tribe of Banu Qurayza beheaded. The Messenger of Allah commanded that all of the Jewish men and boys who had reached puberty should be beheaded. Then the Prophet (LOOTING) divided the wealth, wives, and children of the Banu Qurayza Jews among the Muslims.

 

[Loofydralb]

There was a lot of unclaimed loot sitting around. loot, why there was loot?

None of the Prophet earliest biographers allege that Muhammad was under attack in Medina at the time of the first successful caravan raid.

An eye for an eye. The KAFIRS attacked and looted first. The Prophet just returned their medicine.
The agreement was valid for 2 years that no one attacks each others caravans. KAFIRS violated that agreement.

 

[duluxe]

An eye for an eye. The KAFIRS attacked and looted first. The Prophet just returned their medicine.
The agreement was valid for 2 years that no one attacks each others caravans. KAFIRS violated that agreement.

Show the verse that says kaafirs looted first.

 

[Loofydralb]

Show the verse that says kaafirs looted first.

Your quite the expert at searching the hadis. Go ahead. Do you need to be spoon fed?

 

[k1976]

As i am typing now, USA, IsraHell is still commiting violence and killing murdering innocents in Syria. Till today Iraq still facing war after US illegal invasion. Not forgetting invasion of Afghan. Killing thousands of innocents women and children

Ish all about huat big big in its truest form

 

[Likemeat]

They were actually traitorous. They pledged allegiance to the prophet but then backstabbed the Muslims later.
As is normal sentence for traitors.

Is always the case. The Prophet pbuh, would never kill anyone. For wealth or power!

 

[Likemeat]

Ish all about huat big big in its truest form

Might counts. But the evil zionist will soon face the wrath of the Creator.

 

[k1976]

Well , Cik, u have to understand, Prophet is choosen one, but all of us are NOT

Is always the case. The Prophet pbuh, would never kill anyone. For wealth or power!

 

[Likemeat]

Well , Cik, u have to understand, Prophet is choosen one, but all of us are NOT

True. Prophets will never kill or attack anyone or country unless commanded by Allah swt.

 

[duluxe]

Your quite the expert at searching the hadis. Go ahead. Do you need to be spoon fed?

Muhammad violated the sacred months by killing and looting caravans.

Ibn Kathir:
The Quraysh said that Muhammad and his Companions violated the sanctity of the Sacred Month and shed blood, confiscated property and took prisoners during it. Those who refuted them among the Muslims who remained in Makkah replied that the Muslims had done that during the month of Sha`ban (which is not a sacred month).

Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 424, Ibn Kathir V.2 p.242:
[A Muslim raider] who had shaved his head, looked down on them [the Meccan caravan], and when they saw him they felt safe and said, "They are pilgrims, you have nothing to fear from them."

Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 425; see also Ibn Kathir V.2 p.243
The Muslim raiders] encouraged each other, and decided to kill as many as they could of them and take what they had. Waqid shot Amr bin al-Hadrami with an arrow and killed him...

 

[Loofydralb]

Muhammad violated the sacred months by killing and looting caravans.

Ibn Kathir:
The Quraysh said that Muhammad and his Companions violated the sanctity of the Sacred Month and shed blood, confiscated property and took prisoners during it. Those who refuted them among the Muslims who remained in Makkah replied that the Muslims had done that during the month of Sha`ban (which is not a sacred month).

Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 424, Ibn Kathir V.2 p.242:
[A Muslim raider] who had shaved his head, looked down on them [the Meccan caravan], and when they saw him they felt safe and said, "They are pilgrims, you have nothing to fear from them."

Ibn Ishaq/Hisham 425; see also Ibn Kathir V.2 p.243
The Muslim raiders] encouraged each other, and decided to kill as many as they could of them and take what they had. Waqid shot Amr bin al-Hadrami with an arrow and killed him...

These narrators are not hadis transmissions. I do not know them. They are probably commentators of what may or may not be historical events or fiction. It's impossible to verify.

 

[duluxe]

These narrators are not hadis transmissions. I do not know them. They are probably commentators of what may or may not be historical events or fiction. It's impossible to verify.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_Hisham#:~:text=Abū%20Muḥammad%20ʿAbd%20al-Malik,Muhammad%20written%20by%20Ibn%20Ishaq.

Abū Muḥammad ʿAbd al-Malik ibn Hishām ibn Ayyūb al-Ḥimyarī al-Muʿāfirī al-Baṣrī (Arabic: أبو محمد عبدالملك بن هشام ابن أيوب الحميري المعافري البصري; died 7 May 833),or Ibn Hisham, was a 9th-century Muslim historian and scholar who is known for editing the biography of Islamic prophet Muhammad written by Ibn Ishaq.

According to wiki, he wrote the earliest extant manuscript of The Sirah Of Prophet Muḥammad. You have not heard of him? The problem is your never attend full day madrasa. That why I always say malay kids should go to full madrasah. And they they will be delinked from picking up bad habits from kaafirs' kids, correct?