The Dave Lee (Corporal F.C.) Thread

[CoffeeAhSoh]

Psst... like to place a bet? CGH is bao jiak!

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Have to disagree. No one has ever successfully win a case against any Hospital in Singapore.

Correct me if i am wrong. Sad. :(

 

[rotiprata]

I was a so called "torturer" when I was in the SAF. After the course my trainees would thank me for making them suffer and turning them into real men.

sure or not ????.... can share your tekan expertise here with us...

 

[red amoeba]

Why everyone salute a corporal ? He not officer.

 

[CoffeeAhSoh]

Why everyone salute a corporal ? He not officer.

cfc lee is also a Officer - a non- commissioned Officer.

 

[sweetiepie]

Why everyone salute a corporal ? He not officer.

KNN by right lhl need to salute a dead corporal KNN where is he KNN

 

[CoffeeAhSoh]

Psst... like to place a bet? CGH is bao jiak!

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[glockman]

Why everyone salute a corporal ? He not officer.

Respect for the deceased who "died in action".

 

[Leongsam]

sure or not ????.... can share your tekan expertise here with us...

You've been here since 2012 so you should have read my earlier posts regarding my exploits in SAFTI. Just do a search.

 

[TerrexLee]

Family,friends & army mates turn up to bid Dave Lee farewell

https://tinyurI.com/ybkg6wug

 

[steffychun]

Why everyone salute a corporal ? He not officer.

Out of respect.

 

[Wunderfool]

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Agreed , everyone could be barking up the wrong Tree.

COI on the 2 weeks on what happened to CFC Lee inside CGH.

Moral of the story ???

Moral of the story

It is not my fault . Soldier not strong enough. We follow procedures - SAF

It is not my fault . Soldier came in already half dead . We follow procedures - CGH

Death is all part and parcel of army training . He is the weakest link. - Sam

Mother of all moral - you die your own business .

 

[steffychun]

SPH sell the death with or without respect for the family? Why take so many photos?

 

[Seee3]

To reduce the risk of death one could argue that there should be no more 8km marches and the max should be set at 4km. The chances of someone dying would then be drastically reduced but there would be far less benefit from conducting the march in the first place.

To reduce the risks of death, there are 2 aspects that we need to take care :

1. The individual must know how to listen to their body. Most died because of mind over body, pushing beyond their physical limits. There should be more education on vital signs that the body is telling us that the limit is reached.

2. Coaches / commanders must give the benefit of doubt to the trainees. A better way to prevent 'kemging' is for those who failed to retake, instead of urging them on. I remember in the 90s, SAF has a regulation not to 'push' the trainees in such physical tests.

Well, the real problem is that all these individuals are young and do not think that death can happen to them. When it happened, it is too late. They now understand. But the next batch of youngsters will repeat the same mistake again. So SAF need to be really harsh on those who do not follow safety regulations.

 

[Leongsam]

To reduce the risks of death, there are 2 aspects that we need to take care :

1. The individual must know how to listen to their body. Most died because of mind over body, pushing beyond their physical limits. There should be more education on vital signs that the body is telling us that the limit is reached.

2. Coaches / commanders must give the benefit of doubt to the trainees. A better way to prevent 'kemging' is for those who failed to retake, instead of urging them on. I remember in the 90s, SAF has a regulation not to 'push' the trainees in such physical tests.

Well, the real problem is that all these individuals are young and do not think that death can happen to them. When it happened, it is too late. They now understand. But the next batch of youngsters will repeat the same mistake again. So SAF need to be really harsh on those who do not follow safety regulations.

The only way to prevent deaths during NS is to get rid of NS. Nothing else is going to work simply because nobody can foresee every single possibility of dying.

Highly trained athletes who have performed at top level for years can suddenly drop dead too despite the fact they go for extensive medical examinations on a regular basis.

 

[Seee3]

Highly trained athletes who have performed at top level for years can suddenly drop dead too despite the fact they go for extensive medical examinations on a regular basis.

Sad, I thought you are more intelligent than others.

Top athletes dropped dead because they listen to their doctor and not their bodies. If they had understood what their bodies were telling them during training or race, instead of listening to their docs' saying that they are fine, they may not drop dead. Too young and too proud to understand and accept that the body is not able to take it, especially in a race, will kill.

 

[Annunaki]

RIP Dave.
Karma will catch up with the cheebye sadists who are responsible.

 

[Leongsam]

Sad, I thought you are more intelligent than others.

Top athletes dropped dead because they listen to their doctor and not their bodies. If they had understood what their bodies were telling them during training or race, instead of listening to their docs' saying that they are fine, they may not drop dead. Too young and too proud to understand and accept that the body is not able to take it, especially in a race, will kill.

Every time I go for a bike ride my body tells me to stop torturing myself. If I listened to my body I'd stop riding within 30 seconds of starting.

I push through the pain and soldier on. In return I am rewarded with good health.

 

[Leongsam]

RIP Dave.
Karma will catch up with the cheebye sadists who are responsible.

Why must someone always be responsible and why must that someone always be someone else?

 

[steffychun]

British Army revamps its fitness regime, Singapore?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/05/06/end-leather-training-army-gets-new-fitness-regime/


For centuries the British Army has made soldiers endure the excruciating long march carrying full kit to ensure troops were at their peak of physical fitness and combat ready.

But an overhaul of training will now see soldiers also use the latest sports science techniques favoured by footballers and Olympians to get them fighting fit but also protect them from injury.

Instead of new recruits being “thrashed” with “hell for leather” training, they will focus more on short bursts of strength and conditioning work, as well as being given adequate rests to allow their bodies to recover.

The Army’s review of its fitness regime is an attempt to reduce the numbers of those discharged after suffering musculoskeletal injuries, such as torn tendons and ligaments, muscle strains and damage to nerves.

For the last 15 years, such injuries have accounted for about 60 percent of the Army’s medical discharges.

Soldiers training at the Army Foundation College in Harrogate CREDIT: EDDIE MULHOLLAND FOR THE TELEGRAPH
An Army source said the Royal Army Physical Training Corps’ shift in fitness philosophy is an attempt to “bring training into the 21st Century”.

As well as underlining the importance of rest, hydration and nutrition, soldiers will be encouraged to report niggling pains they experience in order to treat injuries early, rather than pretending that suffering in silence is macho.

Meanwhile, more sessions are likely to be carried out in swimming pools because water offers support and reduces impact injuries.

Greater emphasis will also be placed on preparing recruits for the specific physical rigours each unit will be asked to face in the field of battle.

The source added that the Army had learned from conflicts in Iraq and Afghanistan where marching at speed became irrelevant, in part because of the heat and hidden improvised explosives posing a ever-present threat.

“But, there may be a need for a soldier to employ a short burst of intense energy carrying an injured colleague away,” he said.

“We want to make soldiers stronger and better prepared for the jobs that they will face in their unit.

“And, in so doing we also want to reduce injuries. It’s not just about going hell for leather. Professional athletes - footballers, rugby players and Olympians - do not do all out training all of the time.”

Outlining the concept behind the new regime, Major Robert Heagarty, a physiotherapist who also works with British Olympics, said “soldiers need to be fit to run, not just run to get fit”.

In an interview with Soldier, the magazine of the British Army, he said: “Youngsters today don’t do as much physical activity as previous generation so the step from civilian to soldier is bigger than ever before.

“I reviewed our methods with the intent of reducing musculoskeletal injuries and medical discharges without compromising the Army’s physical fitness standards.”

The source insisted that the Army was not adjusting to an influx of the so-called “snowflake generation”, but wanted to prevent injury to ensure that the British Army remained one of the best fighting forces in the world.

An Army spokesperson said: “This new fitness programme will reduce the number of musculoskeletal injuries sustained by soldiers of all ages and ensure our physical training gets our soldiers ready for the rigours of combat.”

 

[shittypore]

SAF third world training.