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The Dark Manipulation of Religion

abang. the point is it is a religion. I can't ignore what it is. religion : the belief in and worship of a superhuman controlling power, especially a personal God or gods

Have you considered the alternative. What if you're wrong? You may end up in the wrong place!! :eek::eek:

Wat if its the true religion? :smile: I have nothing to lose, u know. Tis is a temporary world.
 
war and violence. control and fear.

tools of the devil. dark force.

Tis is wat Shaytan want mankind to believe. Shaytan can come up 1 trillion of reasons just to make u believe theres no God. Dont be mislead by shaytan tricks.
 
Wat if its the true religion? :smile: I have nothing to lose, u know. Tis is a temporary world.
Tis is wat Shaytan want mankind to believe. Shaytan can come up 1 trillion of reasons just to make u believe theres no God. Dont be mislead by shaytan tricks.
that's the point of post #1. It says that religion is the creation of Satan. Not just Islam mind you. I said I don't believe in religions.

Religion is for people to abuse and war on each other. That looks like it's true. You complain about Christians invading Middle East. They are led to do so by religion. We all see non-Muslims to worship Islam and raping and killing in the Middle East in the name of religion. Jews, well you already know....

On balance of the facts on observation of the effects that can be proven, I find it far more believable that religion. any religion is the work of Satan (if it exists) rather than God (if it exists).

These facts effects include how many people have died because of religion. How many wars started because of religion. How many people have to suffer because of religion.

Religion is power. Power for the priests of the religion. Money, power, sex and peoples lives are given freely by people to the priests.

I think the priests use the name of god (if it exists) so that they can ask people to hand over everything. Including their bodies and minds.

From what I can actually see, a religious person is obedient only to priests and writings. not to god (if it exists).

Since afterlife so important, go through the 1st post. What do you have to lose if it's wrong? If it's wrong you can garbage it what.

As for me, the post has saved me a lot of research which will take me a ton of time to find.

I've always felt something wrong because people follow religion out of fear. That's not white force. That's dark force. I see dark forces in most religions most of the time. Not always, but more than enough for me to question.

In your case, Islam in Singapore has less of these dark forces. To be honest, in Singapore Islam is probably one of the whiter ones out of all the rest. But Islam elsewhere...

I will not follow or use dark forces on other people. Religion requires me to do so. :thumbsdown:
 
that's the point of post #1. It says that religion is the creation of Satan. Not just Islam mind you. I said I don't believe in religions.

Religion is for people to abuse and war on each other. That looks like it's true. You complain about Christians invading Middle East. They are led to do so by religion. We all see non-Muslims to worship Islam and raping and killing in the Middle East in the name of religion. Jews, well you already know....

On balance of the facts on observation of the effects that can be proven, I find it far more believable that religion. any religion is the work of Satan (if it exists) rather than God (if it exists).

These facts effects include how many people have died because of religion. How many wars started because of religion. How many people have to suffer because of religion.

Religion is power. Power for the priests of the religion. Money, power, sex and peoples lives are given freely by people to the priests.

I think the priests use the name of god (if it exists) so that they can ask people to hand over everything. Including their bodies and minds.

From what I can actually see, a religious person is obedient only to priests and writings. not to god (if it exists).

Since afterlife so important, go through the 1st post. What do you have to lose if it's wrong? If it's wrong you can garbage it what.

As for me, the post has saved me a lot of research which will take me a ton of time to find.

I've always felt something wrong because people follow religion out of fear. That's not white force. That's dark force. I see dark forces in most religions most of the time. Not always, but more than enough for me to question.

In your case, Islam in Singapore has less of these dark forces. To be honest, in Singapore Islam is probably one of the whiter ones out of all the rest. But Islam elsewhere...

I will not follow or use dark forces on other people. Religion requires me to do so. :thumbsdown:

How can Shaytan create Islam when God commanded us to believe in Allah and reject Shaytan? Tink u are confused. Shaytan is God's creation. We have angels and shaytan. Both are creations of God. Wars, violence...all mentioned in the Quran. Nothing surprising. Unjust rulers, hypocrites, killing in the name of God etc etc...all mentioned in the Quran, no? See...u dont read the Quran cos u already prejudge its contents. Tats precisely wat shaytan want u to believe. Reject religion and God. Cos u cant see God. U fall into his trap. Dont simply blame the religion by the deeds of the believers. If only u bother to refer the Quran and confirm whether such and such deeds were indeed commanded by God. As for other beliefs, i am in no position to answer for them.
 
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How can Shaytan create Islam when God commanded us to believe in Allah and reject Shaytan? Tink u are confused. Shaytan is God's creation. We have angels and shaytan. Both are creations of God. Wars, violence...all mentioned in the Quran. Nothing surprising. Unjust rulers, hypocrites, killing in the name of God etc etc...all mentioned in the Quran, no? See...u dont read the Quran cos u already prejudge its contents. Tats wat shaytan want u to believe. Reject religion and God. Cos u cant see God. U fall into his trap. Dont simply blame the religion by the deeds of the believers. If only u bother to refer the Quran and confirm whether such and such deeds were indeed commanded by God.
what's the point of reading something when so many of it's readers don't give me a good example? Tell me in this day and age, what Quran followers set the standard for? I don't want to go look this up because it will sadden me and it takes a lot of time. :frown:

If Quran readers all help the world, I will look at it. But reading costs me a lot of time and there is more than enough evidence that following it will result in Shaytan's (if it exists) work being done on Earth.

I cannot see or prove God or Shaytan, but I can feel dark power and light powers and I can see and prove their effects.

I'm pretty certain from my own experience and observation that religion uses dark powers on people and creates darkness in this world. You yourself complain about it all the time!! In fact you're the #1 in this forum that mention that religion creates unnecessary wars and conflict.
 
what's the point of reading something when so many of it's readers don't give me a good example? Tell me in this day and age, what Quran followers set the standard for? I don't want to go look this up because it will sadden me and it takes a lot of time. :frown:

If Quran readers all help the world, I will look at it. But reading costs me a lot of time and there is more than enough evidence that following it will result in Shaytan's (if it exists) work being done on Earth.

I cannot see or prove God or Shaytan, but I can feel dark power and light powers and I can see and prove their effects.

I'm pretty certain from my own experience and observation that religion uses dark powers on people and creates darkness in this world. You yourself complain about it all the time!! In fact you're the #1 in this forum that mention that religion creates unnecessary wars and conflict.

Wat example u want? There are tons and tons and tons mentioned in the Quran and Hadiths. U are just being lazy to search for the truth. Oh ya....u told me many times. U already prejudge Islam. :cautious:

Tats why i ask u to quote me from the Quran which part of verse tat u tink it create so much problem for the world. Ok...i did mention about how Bush used xtianity as an excuse to invade Iraq. But if teres no mention of such in the bible, u cant blame the book. Told u many times politicians, rulers and hypocrites will tend to use religion to "justify" their goal. But wait.....dont blame Islam again. Go back to the verse which the hypocrite uses it. And see for urself whether indeed such verses were in the Quran and dont use it out of context.
 
Wat example u want? There are tons and tons and tons mentioned in the Quran and Hadiths. U are just being lazy to search for the truth. Oh ya....u told me many times. U already prejudge Islam. :cautious:

Tats why i ask u to quote me from the Quran which part of verse tat u tink it create so much problem for the world. Ok...i did mention about how Bush used xtianity as an excuse to invade Iraq. But if teres no mention of such in the bible, u cant blame the book. Told u many times politicians, rulers and hypocrites will tend to use religion to "justify" their goal. But wait.....dont blame Islam again. Go back to the verse which the hypocrite uses it. And see for urself whether indeed such verses were in the Quran and dont use it out of context.
I don't need to read a book to know that religion is the cause for war. I never blame Islam specifically. You are ownself assuming that. I said religion. I never said Islam specifically. Read the 1st post bro. your criticism are contained within there too.
 
I don't need to read a book to know that religion is the cause for war.

U already fall into the trap of shaytan.

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U already fall into the trap of shaytan.
from my point, a religious person is a follower of shaytan. It can be proven. :smile:

Either way, I still wish you the best in this life and your afterlife. :thumbsup:

But since I don't know whether I can believe in god or shaytan, it doesn't matter to me anyway. :smile:
 
from my point, a religious person is a follower of shaytan. It can be proven. :smile:

Either way, I still wish you the best in this life and your afterlife. :thumbsup:

But since I don't know whether I can believe in god or shaytan, it doesn't matter to me anyway. :smile:

The stepping stone of guidance and the route to eternal prosperity begins with being alert to enemies that threaten our chances of admission to paradise.

Satan is the most dangerous of these enemies. He is always vigilant and never ceases attempts to mislead us from the straight path. Thus, the Qur’an and the Sunnah warned against Satan repeatedly, detailing his plots and explaining his ways to influence the ego (nafs). For example, the Prophet (peace and blessings be upon him) said, “Satan is present by any one of you in all of his affairs, even at the time he eats” (Muslim)

Imam Ibn Al-Qayyim expounded that Satan is even a greater threat than our own egos (nafs): “One who reflects on the Qur’an and Sunnah will discover that they mentioned Satan, his plotting and enmity more than they mentioned the ego (nafs). That is because the wickedness and corruption of the ego result from his whispers.

Hence, Allah commanded that we seek refuge in Him from Satan at the time of recitation and other acts, although he has never once commanded that we seek refuge from the ego (nafs). [1]

Imam Abu Hamid Al-Ghazali advised: “Be keen, my brother, to struggle against Satan and to subdue him because of two reasons:

Firstly, he is an evident enemy set on distracting you, and there is no hope in achieving a settlement with him or in him leaving you alone; rather, he will be satisfied only by your destruction. Hence, there is no room to be heedless of such an enemy.

Secondly, he is your innate enemy and is forever persistent in his struggle against you. He casts you with his arrows throughout the day and night while you are heedless.”[2]

Hence, the battle with Satan is never-ending. Satan has taken an oath that he shall take a portion of Allah’s servants with him to hell.

That being said, nothing occurs in the kingdom of Allah except by His Will. Hence, Satan is effectively powerless over those privileged with Allah’s protection. Allah Almighty says: “Indeed, the plot of Satan has ever been weak.” (Qur’an, 4: 76)

On the other hand, the human being is also a weak being plagued by his desires and deficiencies. Allah says: “And Allah wants to lighten for you (your difficulties); and mankind was created weak.” (Qur’an, 4:28)

There is no strength for any of us except by Allah, and we can only subdue Satan with His support. Allah says: “Indeed, there is for him (Satan) no authority over those who have believed and rely upon their Lord. His authority is only over those who take him as an ally and those who through him associate others with Allah.” (Qur’an, 16: 99-100)

This is why Allah directs us to seek refuge in Him from Satan, the accursed.

Thus, the primary weapon is to strengthen our relationship with Allah and to humble ourselves in servitude to Him. The believer takes advantage of special times, such as Ramadan and the last hours of the night, and special places like mosques, especially the precincts of Makkah and the Prophet’s Mosque, to build his faith and his immunity to Satan’s plots.

One who actualizes his servitude to Allah will find Allah facilitating the means to his spiritual wellbeing, whereas one who depends on his own strength will be left to his own flimsy tools

Imam Ibn Al-Qayyim said: “The sinner is forever shackled by his devil; he is confined to the prison of his desires and chained by his whims.

There is no prisoner in a worse condition than a prisoner that has been captured by his greatest enemy, and there is no prison more confining than one’s whims, and there are no shackles more difficult to handle than one’s desires.

How can a heart that is such shackled and imprisoned seek Allah and the hereafter? In fact, how can it even progress one step forward?[3]

He also mentioned: “One of the punishments of sinfulness is that it gives creatures the audacity to harm the sinner. The devils gain the courage to harm and distract him and to overcome him with whispers, fear and sorrow”[4].

Being aware of this hidden enemy and of his methods is fundamental to avoid falling into his traps.

Imam Izz Ad-Deen ibn Abd As-Salam said: “Being cautious of Satan is more critical than being cautious of disbelievers because if you are afflicted by the plotting of Satan you will be from the losers, whereas if you are afflicted by disbelievers’ harm, the trial will serve as a form of expiation for your sins and elevation of your rank.”[5]

However, fending off the whispers of Satan and guarding against his plots poses as a difficult task, indeed. Allah mentions that many have lost this battle: “But he did lead astray a great multitude of you. Did you not, then, understand?” (Qur’an, 36: 62)

Imam ibn Al-Jawzi said: “Most hearts have been conquered by Satan, and thus, besieged by whispers of preferring this life and neglecting the hereafter.”[6]

Allah says: “[Satan] said, “Because You (Allah) have put me in error, I will surely sit in wait for them on Your straight path. Then I will come to them from before them and from behind them and on their right and on their left, and You will not find most of them grateful [to You].” (Qur’an, 7:16-17)

Qatadah explained: “He has come to you – O son of Adam- from every direction except from above; he was unable to partition between you and Allah’s mercy.”[7]

Hence, the heart is like a fort, and Satan wants to conquer this fort. The only way to secure it is by guarding its doors and points of weakness. One who is unaware of these doors and weak points will remain defenseless.[8]

Imam Al-Ghazali has mentioned three basic means to fend off and subdue Satan:

“Fighting Satan and subduing him, as our scholars said, is by three means:

1. Learning of his plots and methods so he would not have the boldness to attack you; 2. Realizing the insignificance of his musings so that you would not feel a sense of attachment and follow; and 3. To consistently remember Allah with your tongue and heart.”

The books of tazkiyah (purification of the soul) have gone to great lengths to address the ailments of the heart, the descriptions of the ego (nafs) and the entry points of Satan.

Our struggle against Satan is fundamental to our existence in this life; Satan’s deception is the cause of the descent of our father Adam from paradise. Allah has not ordered Adam’s descent from paradise to make him deficient; rather, He has done so to complete him, as Imam Ibn Ataillah As-Sakandari mentioned.[9]

Similarly, our struggle against the accursed enemy of Allah is a journey to human excellence and perfection; a journey characterized by self-discovery and self-reform. Hence, the scholars have mentioned: Whosoever knows himself knows his Lord.

[1] Ighathat Al-Lahfan by Ibn Qayyim Al-Jawziyyah (Al-Maktabah Al-Qayyimah) Vol. 1, 72-73.
[2] Minhaj Al-Abideen by Abu Hamid Al-Ghazali (Dar Al-Minhaj), 85.
[3] Al-Jawab Al-Kafi by Ibn Qayyim Al-Jawziyyah (Dar Ibn Hazm), 61.
[4] Ibid. page 68
[5] Maqasid Ar-Riayah by Izz ad-Deen ibn Abd As-Salam (Dar Al-Fikr), 72.
[6] Minhaj Al-Qasideen By Imam Ibn Al-Jawzi (Dar At-Tawfeeq), vol.2, 586.
[7] Ma’alim At-Tanzil by Imam Al-Baghawi surah Al-Araf verses 16-17.
[8] Minhaj Al-Qasideen by Imam ibn Al-Jawzi (Dar at-Tawfeeq), vol. 2, 58.
[9] At-Tanweer fi Isqat at-Tadbeer (Dar Al-Bayrooti), 66.
 
from my point, a religious person is a follower of shaytan. It can be proven. :smile:

Either way, I still wish you the best in this life and your afterlife. :thumbsup:

But since I don't know whether I can believe in god or shaytan, it doesn't matter to me anyway. :smile:

Theres few WaliAllah or saint in Spore. Already passed away. Are u saying such religious persons follower of shaytan? God forbid.

One of them, the keramat, u can find it at Habib Noor, keramat lane. The Muslim saint was Sayyid Noh bin Sayyid Mohamad bin Sayyid Ahmad Al-Habshi, popularly known as Habib Noh.

https://eresources.nlb.gov.sg/infopedia/articles/SIP_1573_2009-09-25.html

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Talk is cheap so is talking about God or Satan it doesn’t add one credit point or whatsoever to you.

Think of the person you hate most will you forgive him or her and actually have compassion for him instead hence neutralise that hate ?

If not ffs don’t preach your religion whatever name it is.

/booo.... lol. ;p <3
 
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well you'd better start telling your fellow Muslims to revert back to their original ways, because no one knows or follows it anymore.

but I also wonder if it become as successful as it is only because it became a religion.
Rome can only be of a certain size as a republic. But when it became the roman catholic power, it and its remnants controls 4 continents.
 
I only know mohamad tried to destroy the shrines in mecca. Did not look like he succeeded as it has gotten bigger.
 
There is no heaven, there is no hell. Hey, Lennon already said so! Hence, there is also no God, no Satan. These hocus pocus crap were all created by men for a multitude of reasons, chief of which was and still is to control people's behaviours and action for the benefit of society. And also for political ends.
 
There is no heaven, there is no hell. Hey, Lennon already said so! Hence, there is also no God, no Satan. These hocus pocus crap were all created by men for a multitude of reasons, chief of which was and still is to control people's behaviours and action for the benefit of society. And also for political ends.
Base on experience of those who died momentarily, it seems there is.
 
One should not criticize what one do not understand nor what one could not see. Sathuuuuu
 
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