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skponggol and the WP Thread

WP, how much interest fees will you profit from the Aljunied late-payers ?

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A huge windfall awaits WP and their FMeSS cronies (WP 朋党们的大丰收) :

http://www.ahpetc.sg/scc/

Penalties & administrative fees for late payment

Type of property…..............Penalty (per month)
1 Room….................................$1
2 Room...................................$1
3 Room...................................$2
4 Room….................................$3
5 Room....................................$4
Executive.................................$5
HUDC.......................................$7

Commercial unit
(including market & hawker stall) $10 or 10% of the arrears
(whichever is higher)

Just based on Mar'13 figure, 30% of Aljunied familes have delayed their S&CC payment for more than 3 months, or about 16,000 families. This is huge ! Loansharks all over the world will be envious of WP for accumulating such an enormous database of arrear addicts.

Currently, the Aljunied S&CC is as follow:

1-rm..........$19
2-rm..........$28
3-rm..........$43
4-rm..........$56
5-rm..........$69
Exec...........$90

So the interest fees charged on the gullible Aljunied late-payers is roughly 10% per month or about 120% per annum !

If the average interest fees charged on each family is $3 per month, then WP could easily profit about $48,000 every month from the 16,000 cash-strapped families, or about $600,000 a year, just on the interest alone ! This could easily wipe out all the deficit WP is incurring now and put them into the black.

Sucking the blood out of the over 16,000 cash-strapped families at an loanshark interest rate of 120% will allow WP and their FMeSS cronies to enjoy another year of big fat bonus. A very tidy sum of profit, considering that their FMeSS cronies are paid the highest management fees and was handed over the management contract without any competitive tender.

It is no surprise that WP MPs and their members are always seen enjoying themselves in overseas vacations when one visit their facebook, with all the 民脂民膏........

"吃喝玩乐,烟酒嫖赌,我们一起 cheong !" - the Hammerrhoids.



But is it moral and compassionate for WP to levy so much interest on so many cash-strapped families in Aljunied ?

These cash-strapped families, which made up one third of Aljunied residents, are already living in extreme poverty, with nobody speaking up for them in parliament. Many of them are probably being harassed by illegal loansharks, although adding another legal WP loanshark may not make much of a difference.

Most of these cash-strapped families are also unaware that they have to pay any interest for the arrears, as they are probably duped by the Hammerrhoids of the short-term benefit and made to think that everything is free by WP... just like how those drug barons hook their new addicts and transform them into long-time, loyal and lucrative customers.

So should WP show some compassion to these cash-strapped families and cancel their interest fee, and to mercifully, generously forgo some of their holiday vacations?



But if WP were to write off the interest fees, then it would be very unfair, very unjust, very unkind and very cruel to the 70% Aljunied suckers who have been paying their full bills on time. All the interest incurred by the Aljunied town council due to the negative cash-flow are currently born by these hapless suckers. So writing off the interest is as good as taking the money from these suckers and give it directly to the late-payers.

Showing compassion is very noble. But taking money from the suckers without asking for their permission and give it directly to the late-payers is simly too crude, too rude, too selfish and too despicable.

So, if WP is going to write off the interest fees, then they must annouce to all the Aljunied suckers, and let them know the full amount being waived and whether they accept it. Waiving the interest fees for a mere 3-5% of Aljunied families may be peanuts and acceptable, but writing off for 30% of Aljunied family for over 3 mth is simply too much and too ridiculous !

So, WP, show some Transparency and Accountability, maybe just for once in your life !


Moreover, if a rule or a regulation can be so easily broken, then what are rules for ? If one regulation of the town council can be so easily broken, then all the rules can also be easily twisted, and nobody will follow any of the nonsense stated in the Town Council rules.



So, WP, the $600,000 per year blood-stained interest fees from the cash-strapped families, to take or not to take ? You should have thought carefully the consequences when you allow so many families to otang for so long without warning them the penalties.


"Due to the huge number of arrear families and enormous interest they have incurred, we demand to know the amount of interest fees being collected and being waived by WP." - Aljunied suckers.


WP = Transparency and Accountability ? Sure or not ?

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Re: WP, how much interest fees will you profit from the Aljunied late-payers ?

everything will be written off!

WP is not so crazy about money and sucking their constituents dry...

this is what a first world garmen should be!
 
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Re: WP, how much interest fees will you profit from the Aljunied late-payers ?

Don't think those people will pay
 
Re: WP, how much interest fees will you profit from the Aljunied late-payers ?

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"What ? We profit another $50,000 this month from those cash-strapped Aljunied goondu again, just on the interest fees alone ??? !!! ..... HUAT AH ! "


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"吃喝玩乐,烟酒嫖赌,我们大家一起 cheong ! "

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Re: WP, how much interest fees will you profit from the Aljunied late-payers ?

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Let's see who can profit more interest fees from their respective distressed cash-strapped late-payers, PAP or WP ?

Round 1…...............Aljunied vs PasirRis-Punggol :

http://www.prpg-tc.org.sg/index.php/our-services/service-conservancy-charges/residential-properties


- Penalties for Late Payment of S&CC of Residential Properties.
- 2% will be imposed on outstanding amount.
- Our Council absorbs the GST for all residential properties.

- Penalties for Late Payment of S&CC of Commercial Properties and Temporary Occupation Licences.
- S$30 or 5% of outstanding S&CC per month, whichever is higher.

WP charges about 10% of the arrears on both residential and commercial properties, PAP charges 2% on residential properties and 5% on commercial properties.

For an average 4-room distressed cash-strapped late payer, WP will profit $3 and PAP will profit $1 from them on the interest fees every month. So the WP zombies will suck out 3 times more blood from these cash-strapped families than the PAP zombies.

WP has profited more from the distressed cash-strapped families than the PAP.

Round 1 winner : WP


"We win ! We beat PAP ! We make more money than the PAP ! Bring'em on !"


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Re: One third of Aljunied people are living in poverty .... and in silence

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One third of Aljunied familes are suffering in poverty with no money to pay their bills. But their MPs have ignored their sorowful plight and refused to speak up for them in parliament to demand PAP to provide some reliefs.

Instead, the WP MPs wasted their time doing their comical cosplay at the posh, exclusive 6-star Raffles Hotel to entertain and amuse their cash-rich supporters and political donors:


"We Will Rock You !" - WP MPs singing and dancing to their cash-rich donors sitting comfortably, wining and dining inside the lavish Raffles Hotel while the cash-strapped families in Aljunied struggle to make ends meet:

[video=youtube;mb0sDgvvGO8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mb0sDgvvGO8[/video]

朱门酒肉臭,路有冻死骨。


Anyway, a very warm and sincere congrats to WP for the overwhelming success of their musical Cosplay, just as successful as the NKF charity show. The millions of $$$ that they had raised should enable them to build a bigger and more luxurious office building, hopefully more extravagant than the NKF's.


WP cosplayers putting up their 'worker' costume and wayang as 'workers'. None of them are workers as all are towkays, lawyers, millionaires, academics, entrepreneurs, semi-retiree, jobless, Islamist preacher, etc.
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"Let them eat cakes !" - Syliar Lim shrieks.

"No money to pay your bills ? Don't worry, you can still spare a few bucks on our Cosplay, to help us renovate a more luxurious toilet than TT's." - Syliar sneered as she was touting expensive tickets for the cakes and her Cosplay wayang to the cash-strapped Aljunied families to buy and to pay.



While the Hammerrhoids were singing, dancing, wayang and cosplaying, the growing number of cash-strapped familes in Aljunied continue to suffer in silence, sadness and anger as their MPs had refused to speak up for them in parliament, despite the massive poverty among their constituents.

"万家墨面没蒿莱,敢有歌呤动地哀。
心事浩茫连广宇,于无声处听惊雷。"

.... lightnings and thunderstorms await the Hammerrhoids in GE2016.

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"Is this fair to other residents who pay promptly ?" - WP chief to AHPeTC

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WP chief puts his foot in his own mouth
http://yawningbread.wordpress.com/2010/06/17/good-counterpunches-by-workers-party-chief/


Low Thia Khiang pointed out that PAP-run town councils show smaller amounts as arrears, not necessarily because they are good at collecting money from residents, but because they write off debts.

And then he landed one on the jaw: “However, the more serious question is whether this is fair to other residents who pay promptly.” Ouch.

OUCH !

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Re: WP, how much interest fees will you profit from the Aljunied late-payers ?

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With a huge customer base of 16,000 arrear addicts and an awesome interest fees of 10% per month, AHPeTC is increasingly run like a credit card company.

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Besides loan sharks, cash-strapped people can now also turn to AHPeTC for cash loan but with a relatively cheaper interest rate than loan sharks.

Keep up the good work, WP !


WP : " Towards a First World Loan Party, 迈向第一世界大耳窿

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AHPeTC S&CC is one of most expensive in Singapore

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Let's compare the WP service and conservancy charges (S&CC) with all the PAP towm councils

Sources : from all the respective town council websites -

…...................1-rm..........2-rm...........3-rm.......4-rm..........5-rm............Exec
AHPeTC........$19.00.....$28.00.......$43.00.....$56.50.......$69.50.......$90.00

AMKTC.........$19.00.....$28.00.......$40.00......$52.50......$65.50........$83.00
BTpTC..........$21.00.....$31.50.......$44.00......$57.00.......$69.00...........NA
CCKTC..........$19.50.....$28.50.......$42.00......$55.50......$69.00......$89.00
ECTC............$19.00.....$28.00.......$42.00......$55.50.......$69.00......$88.00
HBpTC.........$19.50.....$28.50........$42.00.....$55.50.......$69.50......$88.50
JTC…............$19.50.....$28.50.......$42.00......$55.50.......$69.10.....$89.00
MPTC...........$19.00.....$27.50.......$40.50.....$53.00.......$67.00......$85.00
MKTC..........$19.00......$27.00.......$38.50.....$50.50.......$63.00......$80.00
NSTC...........$19.50.....$28.00........$39.50.....$51.50......$65.00......$82.50
PrPTC..........$19.00.....$28.00........$38.50.....$53.00......$66.25.....$84.00
PPTC..............NA............NA...........$39.00......$51.00......$64.50.....$81.50
SembTC......$19.50.....$28.00........$39.50......$51.50......$65.00.....$82.50
TampTC......$19.00.....$28.50........$43.50......$55.50......$69.50.....$89.00
TPTC...........$19.50.....$28.50........$42.00......$55.50......$69.00.....$93.50
WCTC..........$19.50.....$28.00........$42.00......$55.50......$69.00.....$88.50

AHPeTC has the most expensive S&CC in Singapore, perhaps with the exception of Bishan-TP.

Although, their fees for 1-rm & 2-rm is comparable to PAP, there are very few of these units in Singapore, maybe less than 5%. They are even rarer in AHPeTC (maybe less than 1%). So WP deliberately price it according to PAP, knowing that they will not make much of impact on their bottom line. It is all wayang, just like WP itself.

During GE2011, WP had promised the people that their town council charges will be lower than PAP. As shown, they have lied, as usual.

Being the most expensive town in Singapore is perhaps one of the reason why there is so much arrear and so many cash-strapped families in Aljunied, as many are struggling to pay the exorbitantly high S&CC.

WP is definitely not compassionate, as they are over-charging so much money from the cash-strapped families when PAP is charging so low.


The WP mini-Dwarf barks at the Town Council Management Report (TCMR) :
http://geraldgiam.sg/2010/06/underwhelmed-by-town-council-report/
Why not judge the Town Councils on how low their S&CC charges

Well, AHPeTC will get another big fat red mark, judging on how high their S&CC.


PAP motto for running their town councils is "cheaper, better, faster". WP is exactly the opposite, being "expensive, lousy, slower".

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So AHPeTC has the most expensive S&CC in Singapore, one may now wonder if that is the reason the residents are not paying their S&C..
 
WP betrays the Aljunied voters on govt grants

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Why didn't WP ever bother to tell the whole story, or part of the story, or even the tiniest bit of the story?
http://www.theonlinecitizen.com/2014/11/did-desmond-lee-tell-the-whole-story/

Did the Government slash the grants to AHPETC from the $560 per household for Aljunied TC under the PAP, to just $130 now for AHPETC?

Obvious question again: why are the government grants to AHPETC slashed so substantially, if indeed they were cut?

If this allegation is true, it is outrageous !

But the more obvious question is : where the FCUK is WP hiding ? Why are they so incredibly silent when the Aljunied people are so bullied by the PAP ?

For the past 3 years, since May 2011, every single person in Aljunied has been robbed by the PAP regime on the govt grants ! Yet where are all the WP MPs hiding ? Why didn't any of them stand up and speak up for the Aljunied people on such vicious daylight robbery ?

Is this what 'First World Opposition' is all about ? Is this what 'First World Parliament' all about ? Try to explain that concept to the robbed people in Aljunied.

Each and every of the Hammerrhoid MP is being paid S$16,000 per month to speak up and to protect the interest of every single citizen in Aljunied. Yet where were they sleeping and idling for the past 3 years while all the Aljunied citizens are being robbed?

Even more ridiculous and more unacceptable is that the poor people of Aljunied are now only start to wake up by these 'Third World' amatuer unpaid civil activist while the WP MPs are still enjoying their beautiful and comfortable holiday vacations in China.

If not for these amateur activists, all the Aljunied people will still be living in the dark, not knowing that they are happily subsidising the decadent lifestyle of people living in PAP wards, while they are slipping into deficit and into debt. Meanwhile, their own elected WP co-drivers continue to sleep and idle with their PAP drivers, playing their little ping-pong game over the mini-permits and mini-fairs, to amuse and to entertain the wider public.

Well, too bad for all the mini-voters in Aljunied, it seems that the mini-permits and mini-fairs are far more important to the WP MPs than the govt grants. The profitability and well-being of their FMeSS cronies is more important than the grants entitled for the Aljunied residents. The super-mini-grants are too mini than the mini-fairs for the WP mini-MPs to bother.

If these self-styled 'First World Opposition' can't even protect and speak up for their own constituents, how are they ever going to speak up for all Singaporeans if they are ever being bullied and cheated by foreign countries?

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WP chief admits: "PAP is more compassionate than WP"

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"PAP is always writing off arrears for their cash-strapped residents," WP chief salutes the PAP regime inside his First World Parliament.
http://wp.sg/2010/06/press-release-on-tcmr/


On the issue of SCCC arrears where the opposition TCs had exceeded the criteria set by the MND on TCMR. I noted that although MND had issued a “guideline” on writing off of SCCC arrears in 2008. PAP TCs had written off SCCC arrears. When SCCC arrears are written off, it is incomes written off and it will affect the bottom line. PAP TCs can do it perhaps they have more surpluses and are in a better financial position due to additional funding received through upgrading program? This is also why some PAP TCs are then able to use their own TC funds to help residents to pay SCCC arrears to reduce the number of months in SCCC arrears by way of offering part time employment........

Unlike the WP town council which has been extending the arrear so that they can earn hefty interest fees from cash-strapped families on late-payment penalty, PAP is actually more compassionate than WP by writing off the arrears and giving their cash-strapped residents a clean-bill without any interest fees on late-payment.

While PAP is actually helping their cash-strapped residents, WP is profiting from their cash-strapped residents and prolonging their agony.

Although PAP town councils receive additional funding, it goes directly to the needy residents. Unlike WP, the money is not channeled to pay their cronies' over-priced managment fees.

Urban legend says that PAP is a heartless, blood-sucking machine, totally incompassionate to the poor, always sending out lawyer letter demanding immediate S&CC payment from cash-strapped late-payers, threatening to foreclose their homes and evict them if they fail to pay. But now, the leader of the First World Opposition is saying the opposite, that PAP is always sending out money to the cash-strapped families to help them write off their arrear, to the extent of incurring millions of deficits.

Who are we to believe ? The urban legend, that says PAP is evil and heartless ? Or the First World Opposition, that says PAP is indeed caring and compassionate ?

In every First World democracy, the government of the day will tell their people that they have always been giving out money to help the needy, to the extent of 'writing off their income and affecting their bottom line', while the opposition will try to act blur and keep quiet so as not to give any credit to the government..... But in Singapore, it is exactly the opposite: the WP sings the glory for the government, while the PAP tries to act blur and keep quiet. Who is the government ? Who is the opposition ?

Uniquely Singapore.


Who needs PAP IBs, when we have First World Opposition like this ?

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At least WP can keep this kind of mini-promise : collecting money from the people for their many mini-activities...

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No time and energy to collect S&CC arrears but have so much time and energy to print so many glossy banners, brochures and tickets for their mini-party and to collect so much money from their supposedly cash-strapped residents ?

One third of Aljunied people are supposed to be so poor until they have no money to pay for their rubbish chutes. Yet, WP still want them to Pay And Pay to see magic show ? Haven't they seen enough of their 9 WP magicians who are always performing their too many disappearing acts inside the parliament ?


Although WP can never keep their promise on all the major issues such as collecting arrears and majot cleanings at hawker centres, their mini-MPs are at least overwhelmingly fussy on all these mini issues such as mini-party, mini-magic, mini-concerts, mini-fairs, mini-tours, mini-etc....

工人党 - 小事费心,大事无能。

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"Town councils must be penalised for their compassion," - WP chief demands

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WP chief suggests two new criteria for TCMR to downgrade the town councils that show too much compassion to their cash-strapped residents.
http://wp.sg/2010/06/press-release-on-tcmr/

I would suggest two more new criteria for TCMR for MND’s consideration. They are funding either directly received or indirectly benefitted from government programmes to improve and upgrade common areas managed by town councils; and amount of SCCC arrears written off by town councils. Band 5 (the lowest score) being for the most funding and SCCC amount written off.

So the WP Towkay is demanding that town councils that receive too much funding from govt and writing off too many S&CC arrear for their cash-strapped residents be downgraded and penalised.

What kind of First World Opposition would actually make this kind of anti-people suggestion ?

Giving out money to the local town council is one of the very rare occasion when the miserly PAP actually return the money back to the people. And writing off arrear for the needy families ensure that the money go to the most deserved ones.

Isn't this what the Hong Lim Park protesters are demanding : #ReturnOurMoney ? Yet WP is now demanding : #NotToReturnOurMoney.

Instead of demanding more money to be given to the town councils and to the people and to write off more arrear for the needy, the First World Opposition is actually demanding less money to be given back to the people and less arrear to be written off for the poor ?!

In every First World Democracy, all the First World Opposition are demanding the government to give out more money to more needy people. But, the Singapore First World Opposition is doing the opposite : demanding less money to be given out to needy people.

As a leader of the First World Opposition, the Towkay should demand more funds to be distributed equally so that all the needy people in the opposition ward can be as privileged as the PAP ward. But WP is actually demanding less fund to be given out equally so that the needy people in PAP wards would be as deprived as those in opposition wards.

What kind of negative attitude is this ? How will the needy people in PAP wards feel when they hear that WP is proposing to cut off their funds and make them to suffer as those in opposition ward, just because they did not vote for WP ?


Why is the WP Towkay so mean, so nasty and so petty against all the poor people who do not vote for him ? Why behave like an old, rotten, sour grape ? Why like that ?

他妈的鸡北 ! 跟PAP在一起这么多年,好的不学,坏的全部学到完 !

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Re: WP continues to make empty promises

lianbeng replies: in-fighting sure die one lah! :D
 
Re: WP continues to make empty promises

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Another 'First World promise' made and broken by the 'First World Opposition' :

WP promises to reply to Aljunied voters by Wednesday
http://www.theonlinecitizen.com/2014/11/why-does-aljunied-always-fail-town-councils-report/

"AHPETC said it expects to release a statement on Wednesday (5th Nov 2014)".


It has been over 2 days, yet WP has not released their 'expected statement'. Why the delay?


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lianbeng replies: 空头支票啦! :D
 
Re: WP chief admits: "PAP is more compassionate than WP"

Town councils should offer employment to conservancy fee defaulters...
 
Re: WP chief admits: "PAP is more compassionate than WP"

"if you are so good, you will not be in the town council" - Peter C.
 
WP begs: "Pls give us more time to count the S&CC arrears."

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"We're still manually sorting and counting the number of arrear families. Please give us more time."
http://ahpetc.sg/media-release-22-november-2014

AHPETC have not obfuscated or intentionally delayed in responding to the matters raised by MOS Lee, but have made it known to the public that we are looking into the S&CC arrears data, and will respond to the query on the financial and arrears situation in due course.

Indeed, more time should be given to WP to manually sorting and counting the huge number of arrear families accumulated by AHPETC in barely 3 years.

During the last round of counting, it took WP almost 1 month to count the number of WP babes accumulated by Yaw Shin Leong. So one has to be patient. After all, the number of Aljunied arrear families should be overwhelmingly more than the number of Yaw babes in WP...... Or could he possibly ?

Nevertheless, one must not hold too much expectation of the Hammerrhoids : After so much obfuscation and so much intentional delay, and despite so much manual sorting, counting and independent auditing, WP still cannot figure out the final tally scored by Yaw, even up to this day !

So be prepared. You have been forewarned.

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Re: WP begs: "Pls give us more time to count the S&CC arrears."

Nothing wrong in what WP is doing,,after all PAP also say, 'Lets move on'
 
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