Chitchat Sinkie Prettyboy Reservist Aloysius Pang Seriously Injured In NZ While Fucking Around With Howitzer! Guess Whether He Uplorry! Boss Sam Please Help!

[Kee Chew]

 

[Hypocrite-The]

I believe it more on service than repair.

Shouldn't servicing etc be done in the workshop? N repairs be done in the field if needed to get it running etc for full repairs in the workshop? I do know there is field servicing etc. But tat is done by the crews themselves n its the minor stuff like clean n oil parts etc.

 

[Kee Chew]

 

[nayr69sg]

i think Mindef has the Vehicle's " Blackbox"

if yes ,the 2 personel will be in deep Sxxts !!!

Maybe that's why never talk about it st press conference lol

Leave the good doctors alone. I'm sure they've done everything humanly possible to save CFC AP.



Even with multiple organ transplant, I'm sure you would agree that the chances of survival will be slim. If they could, they would have done that on the old man.

I was being sarcastic. It would have been crazy to do that.

Good doctors know when is too much to bear for the patient.

 

[rocket]

Commander Combat Service and Support Command (CSSCOM) COL Terry Tan: First and foremost, the operator and the technician have to link up and discuss about the plan to repair. I think that is the most important. After the discussion, there will be a command that will be given to lower the barrel and then there will be a verbal warning that will be given, and the commander will check (the cabin is) clear before the button is pressed to lower the barrel. Read more at https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/aloysius-pang-death-saf-mindef-key-quotes-11161650

 

[rocket]

Shouldn't servicing etc be done in the workshop? N repairs be done in the field of needed to get it running etc for full repairs in the workshop?

It doesn't matter because they haven't reached the repair part yet.
They are at initial stage of checking which is to lowered barrel then incident happened.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

Commander Combat Service and Support Command (CSSCOM) COL Terry Tan: First and foremost, the operator and the technician have to link up and discuss about the plan to repair. I think that is the most important. After the discussion, there will be a command that will be given to lower the barrel and then there will be a verbal warning that will be given, and the commander will check (the cabin is) clear before the button is pressed to lower the barrel. Read more at https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/aloysius-pang-death-saf-mindef-key-quotes-11161650

Put the whole article up ok?
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Chief of Defence Force LG Melvyn Ong speaking at Aloysius Pang press conference
Chief of Defence Force LG Melvyn Ong speaking at the press conference on the death of Aloysius Pang on Jan 24, 2019. (Photo: Jeremy Long)
24 Jan 2019 07:26PM
(Updated: 24 Jan 2019 11:19PM)
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SINGAPORE: Top officials from the Singapore Armed Forces (SAF) on Thursday (Jan 24) presented preliminary findings on how actor Aloysius Pang was injured and killed during a training exercise in New Zealand, in their first news conference since the accident.

The findings come ahead of a committee of inquiry convened to look into the circumstances surrounding the incident.

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Here’s what has been established so far, in their own words:

HOW DID THE INCIDENT HAPPEN?

Chief of Army MG Goh Si Hou: Aloysius is an armament technician and he is trained to perform maintenance and repair for the Singapore Self-Propelled Howitzer.

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At the time of the incident, Aloysius was with another technician and also a gun detachment commander. They were called in to perform diagnosis on a suspected fault in the gun.

So, as part of the rectification process, the gun barrel has to be lowered to standby position. As you can see from the picture, it appears from the initial findings that Aloysius was unable to get out of the way as the gun barrel was lowered. He was caught between the end of the gun barrel and the interior of the Singapore Self-Propelled Howitzer, and he suffered crush injuries as a result.

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SAF training death: How Aloysius Pang got crushed by howitzer gun barrel - infographic


WHAT IS THE STANDARD OPERATING PROCEDURE WHEN THE GUN BARREL IS LOWERED?

Commander Combat Service and Support Command (CSSCOM) COL Terry Tan: First and foremost, the operator and the technician have to link up and discuss about the plan to repair. I think that is the most important. After the discussion, there will be a command that will be given to lower the barrel and then there will be a verbal warning that will be given, and the commander will check (the cabin is) clear before the button is pressed to lower the barrel.

WHO ELSE WAS IN THE CABIN WITH PANG?

COL Tan: Usually when we deploy technicians, they usually go in buddies. This is to make sure they can look after one another. In this case, there was only one (other) technician deployed inside the cabin to troubleshoot the fault, excluding Aloysius.

So altogether, there were two technicians and the commander of the gun inside the cabin - in total, three. There were no injuries to the other two.


WHAT REFRESHER TRAINING DO MAINTENANCE TECHNICIANS GET?

COL Tan: Before a major exercise, NSmen undergo a comprehensive training programme. Specific for the maintenance crew, NSmen go through refresher training on equipment inspection, as well as maintenance tasks - such as demonstration by trainers on how to perform maintenance tasks - before the servicemen conduct hands-on training. All these are done with emphasis on training safety and precaution as they go about these maintenance tasks.

Additional practical session on trouble shooting and common faults are also conducted.

Aloysius has undergone this refresher training and is qualified and competent to do his job in Exercise Thunder Warrior.

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Commander CSSCOM COL Terry Tan speaking at Aloysius Pang press conference
Commander CSSCOM COL Terry Tan speaking at the press conference on the death of Aloysius Pang on Jan 24, 2019. (Photo: Jeremy Long)

WAS THIS PANG'S FIRST TIME CONDUCTING REPAIR WORK?

COL Tan: This was not his first time - in fact this is his seventh in-camp training. He has done five high-key and two low-key (trainings). Prior to Exercise Thunder Warrior, he has attended a maintenance vocational refresher training. In fact, when he landed in New Zealand, he was given a just-in-time refresher training just before training started. So it is definitely not Aloysius’ first time maintaining the system.

HOW WAS PANG TREATED?

Chief Army Medical Officer COL Dr Edward Lo: When the accident happened, Aloysius was treated on site by the SAF doctor and his team, and after that he was evacuated by helicopter to Waikato Hospital, which is a tertiary hospital as well as a regional trauma centre.

At that facility, he underwent surgery as well as ICU care to treat the multiple injuries that he sustained during the incident.

Immediately after the accident, Aloysius was conscious. He was able to speak to the doctor as well as the medical team that was attending to him.

After the first surgery that took place the same night, the next morning - the next day, when Aloysius’ mother went to visit, he was still able to speak to his mother.

But given the extent of his injuries, his condition made a turn for the worse and it deteriorated.

Despite the additional surgery, and putting him on artificial life support, Aloysius eventually succumbed to his injuries.

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Chief Army Medical Officer COL (Dr) Edward Lo Hong Yee at Aloysius Pang press conference
Chief Army Medical Officer COL (Dr) Edward Lo Hong Yee at the press conference on the death of Aloysius Pang on Jan 24, 2019. (Photo: Jeremy Long)

READ: New Zealand authorities to conduct post-mortem on Aloysius Pang before repatriation

WHAT IS BEING DONE IN THE WAKE OF THE INCIDENT?

MG Goh: I called for a safety call this morning with my army commanders as well as all my trainers - over 1,200 of them - I told all my commanders that this cannot be business as usual.

We are very sorry for every training death that happens at SAF. I have told them that we must do better and we must do our utmost to restore confidence in our training safety and to ensure the safety of all our soldiers.

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Chief of Army MG Goh Si Hou speaking at Aloysius Pang press conference
Chief of Army MG Goh Si Hou speaking at the press conference on the death of Aloysius Pang on Jan 24, 2019. (Photo: Jeremy Long)

I told my commanders that we will review our training tempo and the training activities that we have because we want to put a singular focus on training safety on the ground going forward.

If this means removing training activities, reducing training that we do in the meantime, we will do that.

READ: Aloysius Pang death: Our responsibility to ensure safety of our children, says Chief of Defence Force

Chief of Defence Force LG Melvyn Ong: Following the safety time-out, I’ve asked all the services in the SAF to come back to review their training tempo with a view to lowering their training tempo.

For how long? After the safety time-out, perhaps a month or two.

We will reduce our training tempo and review this across the SAF to focus on safety for all our NSFs and NSmen.

This will take the form of lowering the duration, intensity and frequency of existing training. (We may) take some things out to do training better at a more sustainable pace.


This reduction of training tempo following the safety timeout will be enforced for as long as it takes to get this right.

As the Chief of Army has said, it cannot be business as usual.

THERE HAVE BEEN FOUR SAF TRAINING FATALITIES IN THE PAST 18 MONTHS. WHAT DO YOU SAY TO PARENTS OF NS BOYS, SEEING ANOTHER TRAINING DEATH?

LG Ong: Our parents - we are all parents, many of us are - come to the BMT graduation parade, and I see the pride in their eyes when they see their children serving national service. Parents are proud of their children serving national service. But on the other hand, it is our responsibility to ensure the safety of their children. And we must ensure that parents are assured.

To the parents, I will say this: As a system, the SAF has put in place a good system. For all the incidents that have occurred, for all the findings ... and recommendations on how to improve the safety systems, we have fully brought them on board, be it in the areas of heat injuries or in the areas of vehicle safety.

I think we don't shirk away from this and we always want to be better.

READ: Aloysius Pang: 4th SAF training fatality in 18 months


And we have improved, in our system and the emphasis of the commanders especially in the army over the last couple of incidents. They've been going at it. And I think the safety system is in a better place.

But going forward, what we will do is lower the tempo.

I think first, you have to have the safety time-out, which the army has correctly done. Thereafter all services will come back on how they view the tempo of operations: It's too fast, too intense, too many things, too frequent.

From there, we will do a dedicated review of the training tempo and we will take a look at it holistically within each service and see what we can do to maybe lower the tempo so that they can focus more on safety and do things better, do things well, do things safely. They will come back to me on this one.

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Chief of Defence Force LG Melvyn Ong speaking at Aloysius Pang press conference 2
Chief of Defence Force LG Melvyn Ong speaking at the press conference on the death of Aloysius Pang on Jan 24, 2019. (Photo: Jeremy Long)

ARE THERE SYSTEMIC LAPSES THAT HAVEN'T BEEN DEALT WITH?

LG Ong: We have - ERPSS - an external review panel on SAF safety that we have. They've been formed to oversee the conduct of safety and systems reviews for MINDEF and the SAF. They have consistently ascertained that the systems are in place - and we listen to them. They've visited almost 14 SAF formations in their last cycle, and they actively go around and analyse various parts of the army and the SAF.

Interim progress reports will also be provided to MINDEF leadership from the ERPSS, so we are always in constant contact with them. But the system, I'd say, is largely in place.

But we can do better. Which is why are going to review the training tempo. I believe that once we lower the training tempo ... it'll give us more time to ascertain the optimum level of activity, the right emphasis and the right training activity level. I think this will put us in a much better state.




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[Hypocrite-The]

It doesn't matter because they haven't reached the repair part yet.
They are at initial stage of checking which is to lowered barrel then incident happened.

So they called the repair crew in when the barrel was still raised? So the barrel was stuck? Hydraulics not working? N for the arty guys, must the cabin be cleared for barrel deployment? The controls are located inside or outside the cabin?

 

[rocket]

Long passage.most have read many times already.Key points can Liao.

 

[rocket]

So they called the repair crew in when the barrel was still raised? So the barrel was stuck? Hydraulics not working?

Hydraulic definitely working that how incident caused damages.
Should be at shooting position when they entered chassis.

 

[nayr69sg]

So they called the repair crew in when the barrel was still raised? So the barrel was stuck? Hydraulics not working? N for the arty guys, must the cabin be cleared for barrel deployment? The controls are located inside or outside the cabin?

That's what I thought too. Should have been something wrong with the lowering mechanism that's why when it suddenly lowered it caught aloysius off guard.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

Hydraulic definitely working that how incident caused damages.
Should be at shooting position when they entered chassis.

So who activated the hydraulics?

 

[rocket]

That's what I thought too. Should have been something wrong with the lowering mechanism that's why when it suddenly lowered it caught aloysius off guard.

Unlikely even if off guard still have time to avoid if in standing position.

 

[rocket]

So who activated the hydraulics?

Bro it obvious right?one of the two inside with him.

 

[Kee Chew]

this Aunty crying non-stop...relatives or mum ???

 

[Kee Chew]

Or , there could be a wild swing short circuit while CFC pang was on the Barrel.

Pang was swing along and injured.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

Bro it obvious right?one of the two inside with him.

So wat are the procedures for turret Deployment? Ensure area is clear? Or did it self activate during repairs? But was told not being repaired yet. Alot of loopholes leh

 

[rocket]

So wat are the procedures for turret Deployment? Ensure area is clear? Or did it self activate during repairs? But was told not being repaired yet. Alot of loopholes leh

Not sure.Never thought of going into that.
Only on what may happen.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

Boeing has been sued many times.

i think the maker of this Machine is sue-able.

Maybe Lawyer lim Tean can comment on this case and take on this case.

machine made in Sg why no E Stop ?

ST kinetics or ST Engrg ???

Singkie connected companies are protected from litigation...this is not USA

 

[winners]

That's what I thought too. Should have been something wrong with the lowering mechanism that's why when it suddenly lowered it caught aloysius off guard.

It's quite unlikely because otherwise, MINDEF would have taken the first opportunity to announce that it was due to an unprecedented malfunction in the hydraulic/mechanical systems, thus easily absolving themselves from further liability.

Furthermore, hydraulic systems don't usually fail in a rapid manner unless there's a burst hose/pipe or severe leakage. Even those reputable hydraulic valve manufacturers will have built-in "stop valve" or "check valve" features to prevent unwanted back-flow.