Chitchat Sinkie Prettyboy Reservist Aloysius Pang Seriously Injured In NZ While Fucking Around With Howitzer! Guess Whether He Uplorry! Boss Sam Please Help!

[rocket]

I think we should let the deceased RIP. Even if he made a mistake, so what? He paid with his life. We should question if MINDEF could have prevented this? Do we have a training system where mistakes do not necessarily lead to death?

One of the comment below that MINDEF is trying to hide something ...what's your opinion?
https://www.theonlinecitizen.com/20...high-for-saf-officers-in-training-ask-ns-men/

If I say my opinion it might piss u further.

 

[winnipegjets]

If I say my opinion it might piss u further.

Please feel free to say your peace. If I get pissed, that's my problem, not yours.

 

[winnipegjets]

I'm glad to see that my fellow grassroots leaders have been hard at work like me to set the record straight. The SAF has always taken safety seriously. It's not the SAF's fault if reservists have a heckcare attitude. Most reservists have a heckcare attitude towards training and safety.

I hope when your fellow reservist buddies will give you a mother-of-all-blanket parties. If it leads to your passing, we will say a prayer for you. And we promise not to blame MINDEF for your death.

 

[winnipegjets]

The State is to dignify a clumsy clod simply because he was a rising local actor? He had 9 seconds to move his ass, and he threw caution to the wind simply because of his status as some local celebrity.

Your statement is full of assumptions. Were you there to witness the whole event that you conclude he didn't try to move? Could he have been blocked?

Whatever ….there is NO reason why the gun should be lowered before everyone were in a safe position.

 

[winnipegjets]

KNN the question posed should be are part time reservist really operational ready KNN or just a standby as human shield for pap when enemy landed on sg KNN my uncle say when he go reservist he went just to choi shoi and gathering KNN

Reservists will NOT be able to fight as well as the regulars. The former does not have a mindset of a professional soldier and to pretend that they can be is a FLAWED expectation.

 

[rocket]

Your statement is full of assumptions. Were you there to witness the whole event that you conclude he didn't try to move? Could he have been blocked?

Whatever ….there is NO reason why the gun should be lowered before everyone were in a safe position.

Please dispute me.I hope I m wrong.

Correct.The barrel should be lowered only it safe.

 

[Kee Chew]

Please feel free to say your peace. If I get pissed, that's my problem, not yours.

Your statement is full of assumptions. Were you there to witness the whole event that you conclude he didn't try to move? Could he have been blocked?

Whatever ….there is NO reason why the gun should be lowered before everyone were in a safe position.

i just want to know the exact location of the 2 personel where are the remaining 2 sitted/or standing when the Gun was lowered ???

see pictures below.

who Are the 2 personnel ??? were they also injured or uninjured ??? how old are they ???
are the 2 Singaporeans ??? are they reservists ??? what is their full time job??? their years of experince in handling the Gun ??? are they still in NZ or in Sg ??? what are theirs Statements ??? will they be charged soon or not ???

 

[nayr69sg]

I think person number 2 and 3 were on the floor having sex in missionary backdoor. Dont look like got space anywhere else

 

[PTADER]

If I say my opinion it might piss u further.

Never mind that whiny whinni, another ginfreely type character sans the swearing. I am sure there are many like me who prefer reading some informed pieces, intelligent guesses based on some logical analysis, or reading from those with some inside knowledge like you and some in this thread. This needy-sounding whinnipeg character is simply lazy and irrational, constantly spewing out inane rubbish and spouting irrational garbage.

Please keep it coming. TIA.

 

[winners]

I'm now a little doubtful about the competency of their hospital's doctor/surgeon. Why do they need to operate 3 times on him? They could have done a detailed analysis and try to complete what needs to be done within the first or second operations. Furthermore, his condition was in much better shape after the 1st op as he was still able to breathe on his own and talked to his mum over the phone. They should know that with every subsequent operations done, the patient will become weaker and deteriorate further. I have to admit that I am no medical expert but this is just my observation.

Why I comment on the doctor's competency? My wife's friend is a doctor by profession. When they emigrated to Canada, his qualification was not recognized in Canada and he was disallowed to practice there. Eventually, they shifted to New Zealand and now he's back to being a full-time doctor in New Zealand. So, it seems that that the qualification requirement is not as stringent in New Zealand.

Anyway, sometimes, you just cannot fight against fate. Aloysius seemed to be at the wrong place at the wrong time. Just like the NUS girl who died in the taxi crash in Clementi. If only the taxi had been a mere 2-second faster or the opposite car is 2-second slower, that fatal crash could have been avoided.

 

[Kee Chew]

I think person number 2 and 3 were on the floor having sex in missionary backdoor. Dont look like got space anywhere else

Tks for trying but highly unlikely. Report stated CFC Pang was at repairing work.

paging for forum Resident Arti reservists to share some lights ???

 

[batman1]

Since they talk so much about training and safety in the army.
Do they have the warning notice in red colour inside the SSPH1 Primus : DO NOT STAND BEHIND THE GUN BARREL WHEN U ARE DOING MAINTENANCE .

 

[Kee Chew]

I'm now a little doubtful about the competency of their hospital's doctor/surgeon. Why do they need to operate 3 times on him? They could have done a detailed analysis and try to complete what needs to be done within the first or second operations. Furthermore, his condition was in much better shape after the 1st op as he was still able to breathe on his own and talked to his mum over the phone. They should know that with every subsequent operations done, the patient will become weaker and deteriorate further. I have to admit that I am no medical expert but this is just my observation.

Why I comment on the doctor's competency? My wife's friend is a doctor by profession. When they emigrated to Canada, his qualification was not recognized in Canada and he was disallowed to practice there. Eventually, they shifted to New Zealand and now he's back to being a full-time doctor in New Zealand. So, it seems that that the qualification requirement is not as stringent in New Zealand.

i hope Mindef will release the names of all Doctors who treated or even have touch cfc Aloysius Pang as asap ???

 

[rocket]

Never mind that whiny whinni, another ginfreely type character sans the swearing. I am sure there are many like me who prefer reading some informed pieces, intelligent guesses based on some logical analysis, or reading from those with some inside knowledge like you and some in this thread. This needy-sounding whinnipeg character is simply lazy and irrational, constantly spewing out inane rubbish and spouting irrational garbage.

Please keep it coming. TIA.

It likely Pang is facing front when incident happened.
Reports mentioned from the initial findings that Aloysius was unable to get out of the way as the gun barrel was lowered.

When facing front even if u are listening to earphones when u noticed breech is moving up.First reaction is to avoid by taking a step back or side.Unless u are blindfolded which is unlikely.
The only reason why unable to get out of way is put ownself onto the breech.

 

[Confuseous]

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The ads are totally unnecessary and irrelevant to the main issues at hand. Will they place ads like these for all future deaths?
Just a distraction to change the chatter.

 

[Confuseous]

I tell you why I humtum MINDEF ...the press conference was for what? It didn't honour the deceased. It didn't console the family. It didn't assure our soldiers that MINDEF had their back.

It sent the message that MINDEF did no wrong and intimated that the deceased caused the fatal mishap.

No journalists questioned why it took MINDEF so long to get Pang to the hospital. The issue of timing seemed to not matter when it should.

Was there a delay in treatment? The NZ doctors could not proceed until the arrival of the TTS Hospital trauma expert?

MINDEF could have prevented deaths. It set the process and the standards. Sorry, MINDEF does not deserve a pass on this. Every action emanating from them needs to be scrutinised and challenged.

Totally agreed. It was a disgusting press conference to watch, making it sound like it was the deceased's fault. Even if it was, from the intial findings, there's a time and place for everything. Worse, they also mentioned that they will be paying compensation in line with civil service framework. WTF!

 

[Kee Chew]

 

[nayr69sg]

Why I comment on the doctor's competency? My wife's friend is a doctor by profession. When they emigrated to Canada, his qualification was not recognized in Canada and he was disallowed to practice there. Eventually, they shifted to New Zealand and now he's back to being a full-time doctor in New Zealand. So, it seems that that the qualification requirement is not as stringent in New Zealand.

When your wife friend migrated to Canada? SG qualifications are not recognized here as equivalent. Have to take exams then apply to train in residency.

Anyway I worked with Dr Teo Li Tserng at SGH GS back in 2003. SARS period. We were fellow MOs. He is a good chap.

Crush injuries can be difficult because you cant really tell how badly the organ or tissue is damaged till later. Especially if they are internally organs. They might not be bleeding and dont have like obvious cuts or tears to repair.

It could be why things played out that way. Aloysius could have seemed stable. But as time went on there was more necrosis that declared itself.

Fracture ribs are usually not fixed with hardware. It is possible there were no other fractures if the crush injury was to his chest and upper abdomen.

Pulmonary contusion is another notorious trauma injury. Eg patient is hit by a car. Initial chest x Ray's look normal. Then later on you see a whiteout picture. Pulmonary edema is widespread an failure ensues.

There is also the element of shock. Medical definition of shock. With more necrosis there may also have sepsis. Operations subsequently might have been to excise neurotic bowel and other tissue to reduce the necrotizing burden for the patient. It could have become too extensive by the 2nd or 3rd day so they knew it was a lost cause. Multi organ failure.

It is also why they send Li Tserng a trauma surgeon. Cos there wasn't anything specific to repair or fix per se. It also wasn't a case of ballistic or shrapnel that needed removing. Multiple organs. All crushed. It isn't something surgery can fix.

Surgeons mostly do wok like cutting out tumors respecting segments of bowel. Patching perforated ulcers. Removing gallbladders. Connecting artery to artery vein to vein eg in transplants.

You cannot cut or burn your way to repair a crushed organ.

Aloysius could hav ben saved if they could have stabilized him and then get him heart lungs liver kidneys transplant. It would still be a massive heroic effort.

 

[Kee Chew]

I think person number 2 and 3 were on the floor having sex in missionary backdoor. Dont look like got space anywhere else

i think Mindef has the Vehicle's " Blackbox"

if yes ,the 2 personel will be in deep Sxxts !!!

 

[winners]

I tell you why I humtum MINDEF ...the press conference was for what? It didn't honour the deceased. It didn't console the family. It didn't assure our soldiers that MINDEF had their back.

It sent the message that MINDEF did no wrong and intimated that the deceased caused the fatal mishap.

No journalists questioned why it took MINDEF so long to get Pang to the hospital. The issue of timing seemed to not matter when it should.

Was there a delay in treatment? The NZ doctors could not proceed until the arrival of the TTS Hospital trauma expert?

MINDEF could have prevented deaths. It set the process and the standards. Sorry, MINDEF does not deserve a pass on this. Every action emanating from them needs to be scrutinised and challenged.

Your comments above are mostly very biased. Since when did "the NZ doctors could not proceed until the arrival of the TTSH's trauma expert?" How is it that "it sent the message that MINDEF did no wrong and intimated that the deceased caused the fatal mishap?" Anyway, from all your previous posts and it seems to me that if you are very determined and has already bent on condemning MINDEF for this incident, nothing else can convince you otherwise.