Chitchat Sinkie Prettyboy Reservist Aloysius Pang Seriously Injured In NZ While Fucking Around With Howitzer! Guess Whether He Uplorry! Boss Sam Please Help!

[Kee Chew]

 

[nayr69sg]

i think Mindef has the Vehicle's " Blackbox"

if yes ,the 2 personel will be in deep Sxxts !!!

Maybe that's why never talk about it st press conference lol!

 

[rocket]

likely facing down when on breech and why not facing up.
When facing up it is easily getting off breech just by turning to left or right.
What if uniform stuck on breech.when facing up roll to side with stuck uniform at most tear uniform but still able to get off.

Why facing down make sense.
injuries is mainly chest and adominal area.
When facing down it difficult to get off as can't roll to left or right.
Not to mention uniform stuck etc....

Report says 10 secs for barrel to be lowered.
But in fact only 3 secs to get off.
By 4th secs still on it meaning it became deadly.

 

[winners]

When your wife friend migrated to Canada? SG qualifications are not recognized here as equivalent. Have to take exams then apply to train in residency.

Anyway I worked with Dr Teo Li Tserng at SGH GS back in 2003. SARS period. We were fellow MOs. He is a good chap.

Crush injuries can be difficult because you cant really tell how badly the organ or tissue is damaged till later. Especially if they are internally organs. They might not be bleeding and dont have like obvious cuts or tears to repair.

It could be why things played out that way. Aloysius could have seemed stable. But as time went on there was more necrosis that declared itself.

Fracture ribs are usually not fixed with hardware. It is possible there were no other fractures if the crush injury was to his chest and upper abdomen.

Pulmonary contusion is another notorious trauma injury. Eg patient is hit by a car. Initial chest x Ray's look normal. Then later on you see a whiteout picture. Pulmonary edema is widespread an failure ensues.

There is also the element of shock. Medical definition of shock. With more necrosis there may also have sepsis. Operations subsequently might have been to excise neurotic bowel and other tissue to reduce the necrotizing burden for the patient. It could have become too extensive by the 2nd or 3rd day so they knew it was a lost cause. Multi organ failure.

It is also why they send Li Tserng a trauma surgeon. Cos there wasn't anything specific to repair or fix per se. It also wasn't a case of ballistic or shrapnel that needed removing. Multiple organs. All crushed. It isn't something surgery can fix.

Surgeons mostly do wok like cutting out tumors respecting segments of bowel. Patching perforated ulcers. Removing gallbladders. Connecting artery to artery vein to vein eg in transplants.

You cannot cut or burn your way to repair a crushed organ.

Aloysius could hav ben saved if they could have stabilized him and then get him heart lungs liver kidneys transplant. It would still be a massive heroic effort.

Your above explanation makes sense indeed. It's true that once multiple organ failure sets in, it'll be very difficult, if not impossible to recover. On the other hand, could they have deeply sedate him (to slow down the rate of deterioration) so as to give time to decide on his recovery procedures?

 

[Kee Chew]

 

[rocket]

Why facing front and not facing back when incident happened.

When facing back only way is got clicked up by breech when rising.
But base on angle by clicking at most is uniform back collar and or back of uniform.
Base on this, injuries is at back head and or neck injuries.

 

[Kee Chew]

 

[rocket]

Winni or anyone please discuss or dispute.
I hope I m wrong on this.
I feel sad thinking about it.

A young man maybe base on assumption is gone when little careless turned deadly.

 

[mojito]

Don't be mistaken.Just want to find the truth and facts of this incident.
I am only thinking of all possible scenarios which make sense and is logical.
I tried to dispute some of some of it.
But if there is no mechanical fault, some of it actually fall in place.

Naive. You are too naive! No problem with gun what for send for tech squad? Commanders and artillerymen should know how to maintain their gun and vehicle no need techie. Cannot solve that why need to send for help understand?

 

[Kee Chew]

Why facing front and not facing back when incident happened.

When facing back only way is got clicked up by breech when rising.
But base on angle by clicking at most is uniform back collar and or back of uniform.
Base on this, injuries is at back head and or neck injuries.

Press Conference was too Brief to draw concrete Conclusion.

me guess is like that.

Aloysius Pang could have been injured many many minutes past incident time.

2 other personel dont know what fuxk doing ???

too little info share.

hard to determine.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

Why was the machine being repaired? Was it due to the gun turret bring stucked and could not be lowered? And it self lowered during the repairs n ah Loy got caught ? Could it also be safety protocols were thrown out the window as the higher ups were rushing to get the machine running again?

 

[rocket]

Press Conference was too Brief to draw concrete Conclusion.

me guess is like that.

Aloysius Pang could have been injured many many minutes past incident time.

2 other personel dont know what fuxk doing ???

too little info share.

hard to determine.

The other 2 persons.one is 3sgt I believe he the one press button.
His partner I believe is standing beside him.
Ownself may be on breech even before button is pressed to achieve lifting effect or
It may be a sudden or spur moment to hop on.

 

[Kee Chew]

Winni or anyone please discuss or dispute.
I hope I m wrong on this.
I feel sad thinking about it.

A young man maybe base on assumption is gone when little careless turned deadly.

Info released so far Not meant for Public to put the Pieces together.

just my 1 cent worth.

lets wait for more info.

maybe. just maybe. more info will come after 7pm after Lim Tean's " i have a Dream speech"... today at Hong Lim

 

[rocket]

Why was the machine being repaired? Was it due to the gun turret bring stucked and could not be lowered? And it self lowered during the repairs n ah Loy got caught ? Could it also be safety protocols were thrown out the window as the higher ups were rushing to get the machine running again?

For what reasons or to service.Not sure.

Incident happened just after lunch.
When in chassis have to lowered barrel first for checking and that when incident happened.

Meaning to say they may be inside for less than 20 mins even before they commence checking or servicing.

 

[rocket]

I believe no more info anymore .
Next is COI report.

Mindef knows what happens.
Whatever they disclose sure are facts.
They may withheld some information for some reason.

 

[Hypocrite-The]

For what reasons or to service.Not sure.

Incident happened just after lunch.
When in chassis have to lowered barrel first for checking and that when incident happened.

Meaning to say they may be inside for less than 20 mins even before they commence checking or servicing.

I had the impression the barrel was in the raised position. Than during repairs it was lowered n ah Loy got caught. If it was raised, means it was stuck n the repair crew was called in to fixed it. Than some NCO or higher ups is after medals push the team to get it repaired quickly n when things are rushed, corner cutting begins n accidents happens.

 

[rocket]

Naive. You are too naive! No problem with gun what for send for tech squad? Commanders and artillerymen should know how to maintain their gun and vehicle no need techie. Cannot solve that why need to send for help understand?

Don't wish argue in this thread.
Dispute me if u think I m naive.

 

[rocket]

I had the impression the barrel was in the raised position. Than during repairs it was lowered n ah Loy got caught. If it was raised, means it was stuck n the repair crew was called in to fixed it. Than some NCO or higher ups is after medals push the team to get it repaired quickly n when things are rushed, corner cutting begins n accidents happens.

I believe it more on service than repair.

 

[Kee Chew]

 

[Gallego99]

i hope Mindef will release the names of all Doctors who treated or even have touch cfc Aloysius Pang as asap ???

Leave the good doctors alone. I'm sure they've done everything humanly possible to save CFC AP.

Aloysius could hav ben saved if they could have stabilized him and then get him heart lungs liver kidneys transplant. It would still be a massive heroic effort.

Even with multiple organ transplant, I'm sure you would agree that the chances of survival will be slim. If they could, they would have done that on the old man.