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SIngapore - We Won't Be Held Hostage By Malaysia And Indonesia

johnny333

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Even if it was only 20% Muslim, all it would take to bring Singapore to its knees would be for a small group of Muslim loonies to blow up the pipeline.

I'm seriously thinking of doing away with the infraction system and imposing an IQ test instead.


I remember reading that one of the places Spore gets it's oil from is Iran.
So if PAP decides to take sides in any disagreement with the Muslims, we will have "problems".

For a small country like Spore, our interests should be remaining non-aligned. Instead we are getting in bed with the Israel:eek: Inviting the US naval forces to set up shop in Spore:eek::eek:
 

jubilee1919

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Generous Asset
I remember reading that one of the places Spore gets it's oil from is Iran.
So if PAP decides to take sides in any disagreement with the Muslims, we will have "problems".

For a small country like Spore, our interests should be remaining non-aligned. Instead we are getting in bed with the Israel:eek: Inviting the US naval forces to set up shop in Spore:eek::eek:

No, the oil flowing into Singapore are purchased by businesses and not by Singapore.
 

Charlie99

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Naming Indonesia as a Muslim-majority country, are for those who wants to be politically correct. In SBF who cares as it is one and the same thing. As a matter of fact, even journalists(many are Indonesians themselves) says Indonesia is a Muslim country. Does it really matter?

FYI, our host tends to get apoplectic attacks whenever he talks about Muslims, so live with it.:biggrin:

You must be a very well respected member on this website, because you made about 346 posts, but you have 1113 points.
 

Reddog

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Loyal
Have you forgotten the power failures just a couple of years ago because the gas flow was interrupted? For the whole country to depend upon a single pipeline from a muslim country is foolhardy and extremely short sighted.

You have revealed your anti Muslim agenda again. Be careful.
 

jubilee1919

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Generous Asset
You must be a very well respected member on this website, because you made about 346 posts, but you have 1113 points.

Wrong bro.:smile:

I had to make a painful decision to trade cash for points in order to know which low-life form in SBF decided that I should only have 10 reputation points and not more.
 

johnny333

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Call me a simpleton, but please explain to us why the Singapore gahmen wants to purchase crude oil? For her own consumption?

I'm only a "lesser mortal" but even I know that the GLCs are proxies for the gov't i.e their business arm.

Why do you think there is a 3/4 tank law:confused:
The gov't collects taxes on oil/gas imports. They obviously want to dissuade Spore cars from getting cheaper oil from JB.

GLCs are simply proxies for the gov't. They are both consumers as well as sellers of oil.
 

jubilee1919

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Generous Asset
I'm only a "lesser mortal" but even I know that the GLCs are proxies for the gov't i.e their business arm.

Why do you think there is a 3/4 tank law:confused:
The gov't collects taxes on oil/gas imports. They obviously want to dissuade Spore cars from getting cheaper oil from JB.

GLCs are simply proxies for the gov't. They are both consumers as well as sellers of oil.

Bunker oil needed by PSA etc. Now how can we be one of the world's largest port for vessels to down anchor for their needs without having bunker fuel?

All petrol and petroleum products are refined from crude and oil refineries need crude oil to process and sell them to consumers. I don't see our GIC's buying crude oil. They might buy refined petroleum products for their needs but definitely not trade in crude. If PSA buys bunker fuel, it is because they are in the business to service their customers.

GIC's are involved in many businesses but definitely oil plays a very small role. I think we should not read too much into this. Singapore's survival very much depends on LNG but not on oil.
 

jubilee1919

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Generous Asset
Really?
You paid cash to buy those reputation points?

True story bro. In SBF there are more chances your comments are more likely to be noted for its left/right leanings than be appreciated by members for it's merits. So woe betide a newbie should a certain member with his clone army chose him as a target for "elimination."

Looking at your points they appear rather low for a 2 year old member. You meant to tell me all your posts are not deemed noteworthy? Of course they are but which responsible senior member/s will care 2 hoots unless you are in one of the "in" groups. I know you don't care about it as probably your comments are uncontroversial and mild.

Donating is a way of showing appreciation to the host for the troubles he went through for hosting the site. It is also an insurance against the mindless zappings and allows one to know the culprit/s who took advantage of anonymity to play his mindless game.
 

Kohliantye

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Naming Indonesia as a Muslim-majority country, are for those who wants to be politically correct. In SBF who cares as it is one and the same thing. As a matter of fact, even journalists(many are Indonesians themselves) says Indonesia is a Muslim country. Does it really matter?

FYI, our host tends to get apoplectic attacks whenever he talks about Muslims, so live with it.:biggrin:

Thank you bro.

We have to live with such people in our midst.

Methinks it is much more a psychological disorder of sorts.
 

johnny333

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Bunker oil needed by PSA etc. Now how can we be one of the world's largest port for vessels to down anchor for their needs without having bunker fuel?

All petrol and petroleum products are refined from crude and oil refineries need crude oil to process and sell them to consumers. I don't see our GIC's buying crude oil. They might buy refined petroleum products for their needs but definitely not trade in crude. If PSA buys bunker fuel, it is because they are in the business to service their customers.

GIC's are involved in many businesses but definitely oil plays a very small role. I think we should not read too much into this. Singapore's survival very much depends on LNG but not on oil.


My point is simply that whatever the energy, the PAP will make sure that they will get their cut of the $$$. This will be achieved by taxation & through their GLCs that they control.

The laws in Spore are used to ensure the PAP monopoly e.g. 3/4 tanks rule to prevent competition from JB, outlawing of satellite dishes to give Starhub a monopoly,....
 

jubilee1919

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Generous Asset
My point is simply that whatever the energy, the PAP will make sure that they will get their cut of the $$$. This will be achieved by taxation & through their GLCs that they control.

The laws in Spore are used to ensure the PAP monopoly e.g. 3/4 tanks rule to prevent competition from JB, outlawing of satellite dishes to give Starhub a monopoly,....

We have to give credit where credit is due. With one stroke, we have change our desperate position from a country without enough water to serve our needs to one where we now can look forward to being fully self-sufficient and, at the same time make us wealthy in the process. Similarly, our dependency for LNG to provide for our needs and also generate more business.

Your quarrel with the gahman and the question how it benefit you as an individual seemed so narrow-minded. I may agree with the gahman on these and like you angered by some of their actions and policies. But that does not take away my sense of elation and relief that these countries envious and at times unwilling to allow us to survive has been snooked. I do understand that our neighbours too do not owe us a living and if they have an advantage over us they will grab it. As a nation, we have to stand together against those who will do us in. I see nothing wrong in bitching against what we perceived as our gahman milking us to the hilt amongst other evils they had committed. However let us not be blinded by these grievances and be negative about their achievements for the good of Singapore.
 
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eatshitndie

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Donating is a way of showing appreciation to the host for the troubles he went through for hosting the site. It is also an insurance against the mindless zappings and allows one to know the culprit/s who took advantage of anonymity to play his mindless game.

one has to appreciate the thoughtful genius of the admin's/owner's mind. in one simple sweep of a double play, albeit with tools already available in the vbulletin system, he opens up the forum for newbies willing to contribute by both monetary means and mindful content by denying, defying and defending against some oldies here whose sole lives are to masturbate themselves silly with their clone games and exact power and control over others, especially newbies, in their otherwise pathetic powerless loser lives. :rolleyes: :biggrin:
 

Thick Face Black Heart

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Generous Asset
Your quarrel with the gahman and the question how it benefit you as an individual seemed so narrow-minded. I may agree with the gahman on these and like you angered by some of their actions and policies. But that does not take away my sense of elation and relief that these countries envious and at times unwilling to allow us to survive has been snooked. I do understand that our neighbours too do not owe us a living and if they have an advantage over us they will grab it. As a nation, we have to stand together against those who will do us in. I see nothing wrong in bitching against what we perceived as our gahman milking us to the hilt amongst other evils they had committed. However let us not be blinded by these grievances and be negative about their achievements for the good of Singapore.


In international politics, countries don't carry out vendettas for their own sake. There is always a bigger objective. Singapore has always been especially vulnerable to being caught in a tug of war between Malaysia and Indonesia, that much is clear to every 1st grader who has been introduced to a map. We spent the past 50 years trying to convince both sides that it is in each of their best interest to have a strong Singapore between them. I'm not too sure we have succeeded, even till today.

Self-sufficiency has always been the objective though it took technological advances before we could really make that kind of headway.
 

red amoeba

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Our "invasion" of Johore has begun. Soon Singaporeans will own southern Johore

Rise in Singapore's investments in Iskandar Malaysia

SINGAPORE'S cumulative investments in Iskandar Malaysia increased by more than a third in just over the first half of this year. The republic remains the leading foreign source of capital for the Johor-based economic zone with one out of every six dollars of foreign capital that flows in there coming from Singapore.

As at July this year, Singapore's total cumulative investments in Iskandar Malaysia were at RM6.15 billion (S$2.46 billion), compared to RM4.56 billion as at December 2011, the Iskandar Regional Development Authority (IRDA) told BT yesterday.

The latest figures show that Singapore's total committed capital flow into Iskandar Malaysia grew by RM1.59 billion, or 34.9 per cent, in the first seven months of this year. The bulk of Singapore's investments were in traditional sectors, as IRDA reported that 77 per cent of Singapore's total cumulative investments in the zone were in manufacturing alone. The rest of the capital from Singapore went into the healthcare, education and property sectors.

The significant increase in Singapore's investments in Iskandar Malaysia from January-July 2012 is in line with the region's strong showing in attracting capital this year. Ismail Ibrahim, chief executive of IRDA, announced yesterday that Iskandar Malaysia recorded a total cumulative investment of RM15 billion this year alone.

Nearly a third of this amount came in the third quarter of 2012 itself, as BT's earlier reports show that in the first six months of the year, Iskandar Malaysia had secured RM10.67 billion of new committed investment.

Overall, Iskandar Malaysia recorded a total cumulative investment of RM99.79 billion in various sectors, IRDA reported yesterday, with 42 per cent of the total committed investment being realised as at September this year.

"We have been very aggressive in our promotional efforts to attract more investors into Iskandar Malaysia. I am very happy to note catalytic projects such as Legoland Malaysia have also helped reinforce the value proposition of Iskandar Malaysia on the global platform," said Mr Ismail. "We are confident that we will soon breach the RM100 billion mark."

Of the total cumulative committed investment mentioned, 63 per cent or RM62.7 billion are domestic investments, with the remaining 37 per cent coming from outside Malaysia. This means that Singapore's investments in Iskandar Malaysia account for 16.58 per cent, or one-sixth, of the total RM37.09 billion of foreign investments there.

According to IRDA, this made Singapore the largest foreign investor in the economic region as at July 2012, beating Spain and Japan respectively.

The latest data, according to Mr Ismail, also reflected the growing confidence of the local investments towards Iskandar Malaysia.

"In 2008, the ratio was 45 per cent domestic (sources of investment) and 55 per cent foreign (sources of investment). We see this shift as something positive and encouraging because while foreign investments continue to flow in, the domestic players are also ensuring they are not left behind," he said.

Out of the RM99.79 billion of cumulative investments, the manufacturing sector was the largest recipient of capital at RM33.36 billion, while the property sector was a close second with RM32.94 billion.

even before the IDZ we are the biggest investor in mudland..but all for "polictical" reasons.

i wont trust the mudland government for anything. KLOB shares is a fine example.
 

ionzu

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Loyal
I remember reading that one of the places Spore gets it's oil from is Iran.
So if PAP decides to take sides in any disagreement with the Muslims, we will have "problems".

For a small country like Spore, our interests should be remaining non-aligned. Instead we are getting in bed with the Israel:eek: Inviting the US naval forces to set up shop in Spore:eek::eek:

when we were setting up our armed forces post-british, israel was the only country that agreed to help us. our friendship with them is historic.
 

ionzu

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Looking at your points they appear rather low for a 2 year old member. You meant to tell me all your posts are not deemed noteworthy? Of course they are but which responsible senior member/s will care 2 hoots unless you are in one of the "in" groups.

this is like one of our minister's (or MP? my memory fails me) saying he needs a million dollar salary least he be disrespected by those in industry.


Donating is a way of showing appreciation to the host for the troubles he went through for hosting the site. It is also an insurance against the mindless zappings and allows one to know the culprit/s who took advantage of anonymity to play his mindless game.

you've been suckered into playing their game. points are only worth as much as your ego.
 
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