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Singapore goes to war with China...

If Thailand really fight the Japan the history will be different. Even Japan manage to win over Thai there will be not much army left to cycle down from Thai to Singapore. Most probably Japan troop will stop in Melaka. Singapore will be spare.
Thai from the history don't have much war from outside, maybe the King have no ball.
But they always have power coup internally.

Thailand, the only country not colonised by European countries - and even by the Japanese. Yet it is the only country that has a new government every few years, and a coup detat every other year. Amazing!
 
China do not need to invade a country by force, just by sending their miilions of PRC workers, especially females to settle down in SG. The next generation or after next, the Chinese will take control of the whole island.

First by getting an ex-PRC as MP and Minister.

Do you think that China has spies in Singapore?

Since so many of them work in our sensitive industries and government department, wonder whether they need to send spies.
 
Instead of talk about next-to-impossiblity of Singapore going to war with PRC, why not talk about ROC Taiwan going to war with PRC. It's getting more and more remote by the day but PRC has never renounced 武力统一 and ROC has never renounced 反攻大陆。

That will be for another thread.

More interesed in our own country's affairs - rather than interfere with others. Moreover, there are so many PRCs men and women and families in Singapore - and also many Sporeans appeared to feel threatened by them - economically.

Just wonder when this good relationship will last. As we know, sometime one episode like PM visiting Taiwan, or Taiwan PM visiting or stopover in Singapore can make China so angry.

The truth is : we need China more than China need us.
 
Thailand, the only country not colonised by European countries - and even by the Japanese. Yet it is the only country that has a new government every few years, and a coup detat every other year. Amazing!

Thailand did not officially join any part or fought any wars during WW2, but just like Spain, of whom is friendly to germany, the Military Goverment at that time was friendly towards the japanese and allowed them to move their trroops from time to time across Thai areas.

The Thai King then has no power as the military goverment was in total control.
 
There're some anti-PRC counter-claim versions that Vietnam actually won. But stark fact is, Vietnam lost. PLA chased the Viet troops deep in within miles outside Hanoi, and they were preparing to hold Hanoi to the death. However, with the limited war objective of reclaiming disputed border achieved, PLA withdrew back to the border. Did and could Viet troops chase them back? Obviously no. That was a PRC success on both military and diplomatic fronts. The subsequent ceasefire and negotiation could be conducted amicably since no huge damages and casualties were inflicted.

The late Qing - ROC period saw some of China's worst war records in its history. However, PRC hasn't lost a single war yet, versus ROC, versus S. Korea / USA, versus India and versus Vietnam. There was even a minor confrontation with USSR along the Mongolian - Manchurian border areas when relations fell out and PRC demanded USSR withdrawal of troops stationed there. (Something like USA stationing troops in UK as allies.) After some banging tables and clandestine posings, USSR backed down and withdrew.

heh Ramseth kuku bird , let me give you some free history lesson so that you will learn the hard way!!! :oIo: :oIo: :oIo:
You pro communist kuku, open your big eyes and watch carefully how ROC soldiers fought!!!

1)ROC period saw some of China's worst war records in its history.

heh Ramseth ==>>> watch these videos carefully.
The first one to admit ROC first victory against the japanese army is from your own communist tv channel too.

Our brave ROC soldiers not only kick the japs ass but also help saved thousand of British soldiers trapped by the japs.The british offiicals thanks the ROC for the victory on the japs which save their lives!!! Look how the British ask for help to save their ass and ROC soldiers saved them....

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and watch this video, how this ROC hero beaten the japs.but was killed by your communist PLA in 金門戰役!!!
No shame on you communist!!! 吉星文將軍之子吉民立先生為您講述父親的英勇事跡以及29軍大刀隊的故事

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heh and watch this carefully you bloody bastard commie!!!
how our ROC 孟良崮 not only kick the communist ass but also kick the japs ass too.knn, but he too was killed by your commie bastard during the civil war!!!
you commie dont want to fight the japs and leave the big war to ROC, but when fighting your own chinese people, you communist bastard fight like a tiger!!!
shame on you communist!!!
軍校畢業後參加北伐戰役,從第21師最基層的步兵排見習官做起,因作戰表現身先士卒、_積極勇敢,屢獲拔擢。民國21年,時任團長的張將軍奉命進剿共軍,部隊一路追擊,共軍_被殺得大敗,胡宗南連誇張將軍是「黃埔英才,革命猛將。

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one of your commuist old PLA soldier finally told the world how the PLA fight like sissy.watch carefully how he told us your so called brave PLA fight!!! knn heh this is for you and your commie...:oIo: :oIo: :oIo: very shame on the PLA !!!!and your so called communist PLA hero are but spy here and there... knn sissy army!!!


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1949年遣送金門古寧頭戰役共軍戰俘 - Chinese Civil War
hahaha, now who is the prisoner of war???
在國共內戰廈門淪陷的不久之後,中共解放軍葉飛將解放軍下的32軍船隻分發給28軍,_決定集中船隻來進攻大金門,但是鑒於船隻數量還是不足,日期一再的延後,終於在194_9年10月24日當晚決定下令渡海進攻大金門,,史稱古寧頭戰役,結果在島上苦戰三晝_夜,因後援不繼,造成解放軍全軍覆滅。

However, PRC hasn't lost a single war yet, versus ROC, <<<=================

The Communist PLA bastard tried to attack ROC controlled island called 金門!!!
They thought it's easy fight but in the end they lost to the ROC and thousands of PLA was taken prisoners of war!!!

本次戰役可說是一場典型的海島爭奪戰,共軍雖以雙倍於我軍的兵力向我進行奪島作戰,然_在我守軍抱定堅守陣地,以「我死則國生」之決心與鬥志,將士用命、不畏犧牲,擅用地形_、戰術,並在心戰攻勢配合下,歷經十餘小時的浴血奮戰,擊退敵軍,也使共軍對於攻島作_戰失去信心,直至民國四十七年的「八二三砲戰」的數年間,共軍始終不敢再發動對我之大_規模軍事作戰。


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金門大二膽戰役(一)
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金門大二膽戰役(二)

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深圳卫视记录片:国军抗日战役"血战台儿庄
国军将令抵抗日军,在台儿庄与日寇开战,获得大胜利,此乃国民政府之功绩,献给那些爱_过的国军将士们,你们的功绩永垂不朽!

haha, from your own CHINA channel too.The ROC 'tai er zhuang' war was one of the great victory ever fought by the ROC troops!!!

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深圳卫视记录片:国军抗日战役"血战台儿庄
国军将令抵抗日军,在台儿庄与日寇开战,获得大胜利,此乃国民政府之功绩,献给那些爱_过的国军将士们,你们的功绩永垂不朽!



part 4
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The current communist government for allowing the making of this movie '喋血孤城' is a good leap forward!!! I must say communist is starting to know what is right and wrong and it is a good move.well, i know it's hard to overthrow the communist anymore.but at least if communist and kmt can united and face the truth, i think it will be a big forward for both party!!!


国产片首颂国军抗战 颠覆中共党史 1986年,中国拍摄放映首部国民党抗战电影《血战台儿庄》,虽然影片对蒋中正和国民_党将领有所歪曲形象,但却引起了国内史学界对抗战是谁打的、谁领导打的历史反思。

辛灏年指出:20多年来,中国的许多军事学家、记者、历史学家们,已经通过他们的著作_,将抗战的基本事实完全捅出来了。

然而直到现在,在中共党史和国内大中小学教科书中,歪曲国民党蒋介石消极抗战、美化共_产党领导抗日的内容,仍然比比皆是。

辛灏年说:"不是消极抗战,是积极抗战。我们看看国民党蒋介石所领导的这一场浴血抗战_,到底打了多少?我现在讲的数字,是中国大陆历史学家经过20年反思出来的,22次大_会战,什么叫会战?投入兵力10万军队以上的,大的战斗才能叫作会战,1117次大型_战役,小型战斗28931次。中国国民党206个将军面对面地被打死在抗日的疆场上,_为国捐躯,壮烈牺牲。"

而中共党史吹嘘的平型关战役,不过是1117次大型战役中的一个。所谓的"百团大战"_,只是派出小股八路军,炸碉堡、扒铁路、袭击小股的日军、主要是伪军而已。而这两次战_斗,却都受到中共党中央的批评,害怕中共借假抗日扩张势力的阴谋暴露。

外界评论指出,反映"常德会战"的电影《喋血孤城》,首次正面歌颂国民党军队英勇抗战_,虽然有中共的统战意图,但却让中国广大民众有机会了解国军抗战的真相,同时揭露中共_几十年来美化党史、歪曲抗战历史的丑恶





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Brave ROC sioldiers fighting the Japs...

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A must watch show...


中視新聞100821(國軍奮勇抗日 陸資拍電影歌頌)

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There're some anti-PRC counter-claim versions that Vietnam actually won. But stark fact is, Vietnam lost. PLA chased the Viet troops deep in within miles outside Hanoi, and they were preparing to hold Hanoi to the death. However, with the limited war objective of reclaiming disputed border achieved, PLA withdrew back to the border. Did and could Viet troops chase them back? Obviously no. That was a PRC success on both military and diplomatic fronts. The subsequent ceasefire and negotiation could be conducted amicably since no huge damages and casualties were inflicted.

The late Qing - ROC period saw some of China's worst war records in its history. However, PRC hasn't lost a single war yet, versus ROC, versus S. Korea / USA, versus India and versus Vietnam. There was even a minor confrontation with USSR along the Mongolian - Manchurian border areas when relations fell out and PRC demanded USSR withdrawal of troops stationed there. (Something like USA stationing troops in UK as allies.) After some banging tables and clandestine posings, USSR backed down and withdrew.

The late Qing - ROC period saw some of China's worst war records in its history. <<<====

heh Ramseth bastard, watch carefully!!! :oIo: :oIo: :oIo:

中國大刀是保衛國家民族用的
中國大刀

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大陸的國軍抗戰電視劇:大刀

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There're some anti-PRC counter-claim versions that Vietnam actually won. But stark fact is, Vietnam lost. PLA chased the Viet troops deep in within miles outside Hanoi, and they were preparing to hold Hanoi to the death. However, with the limited war objective of reclaiming disputed border achieved, PLA withdrew back to the border. Did and could Viet troops chase them back? Obviously no. That was a PRC success on both military and diplomatic fronts. The subsequent ceasefire and negotiation could be conducted amicably since no huge damages and casualties were inflicted.

The late Qing - ROC period saw some of China's worst war records in its history. However, PRC hasn't lost a single war yet, versus ROC, versus S. Korea / USA, versus India and versus Vietnam. There was even a minor confrontation with USSR along the Mongolian - Manchurian border areas when relations fell out and PRC demanded USSR withdrawal of troops stationed there. (Something like USA stationing troops in UK as allies.) After some banging tables and clandestine posings, USSR backed down and withdrew.

There was even a minor confrontation with USSR along the Mongolian - Manchurian border areas when relations fell out and PRC demanded USSR withdrawal of troops stationed there. (Something like USA stationing troops in UK as allies.) After some banging tables and clandestine posings, USSR backed down and withdrew. <<<======

中俄边界争端与中共民卖国

The Russian order the PLA to backoff and set no defenece at the norther boder.Communist had let off the size of 32 Taiwan island to the Russia.
This land belongs to China and even ROC dare not sign the treaty but the Communist afraid of her master USSR and sign the treaty.
The Russian order the Communist to backoff and this Communist bastard just backoff.Really very loyal to her master Russia!!! :oIo: :oIo: :oIo:

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hahaha, heh bastard, who is the one backing down now???USSR or Communist China???kNN tell you something, you got no face to face us anymore because what you say really lack of substance...
in the future, no one will believe what you say!!! :oIo: :oIo: :oIo:
 
What if Singapore goes to war with China? Unthinkable? I can think of three likely senarios. Those who are anti-FTs may wish to vent your views. Pro-FTs can proffer your views too. Differing views will add variety to the arguments.

Scenario 1
Then DPM Lee visited Taiwan in 2004 and met Taiwanese officials. This infuriated China, and said it "harms China's core interests" and it would have "consequences". After some token protests and actions, the Chinese gave face because LKY is his father, and is useful to China because he could explain the Chinese situation convincingly to America and Europe who love to listen to him talk about China.

Scenario 2
Japan patrol boat collided with a Chinese fishing boat in the Senkaku Island. Chinese boat sank, and all crew members perished. China sent warships and submarines to the Islands to confront Jap patrol boats. Singapore reiterated peaceful resolution. China viewed this as tacitly unsupportive of China. China issued warnings that those who did not support her, or condemn Japan, is her enemy. China sent more patrol boats and submarines to the Paracel Islands to lay claim. US 7th fleet aircraft carrier and escorts depart from Changi and headed north. This infuriates the Chinese, who warn of "consequences" for this "unfriendly act".

Scenario 3
China, economically most powerful now, flexes her muscles and becomes more belligerent with its new aircraft carrier. Wants to claim islands in the Paracel and Spratly for marine resources and oil and gas underneath. Send warships and patrol boats and station PLA troops on islands claimed by Malaysia, Philippines, Brunei, Thailand, Vietnam - all ASEAN members. Asean issues strong protest condemning China - Singapore also a signatory. China angry with ASEAN and Singapore in particular.

US Aircraft carrier USS George Washington and escort ships on R&R and refuelling and replenishing supplies in Changi, take off north with much fanfare from western media. China angrier. Concludes that Singapore is in collusion with US imperialist. Expels ambassador from Beijing. Arrest some Singaporean workers in Suzhou and Shanghai for espionage. Chinese PRs and Chinese FTs in Singapore hold protests and demonstrate in many places. Many down tools. Loyal Singaporeans accuse Chinese PRs of ungratefulness, disloyalty and being traitors and throw stones at PRCs living in Geylang area, and Singapore bosses fire Chinese workers on reason of poor business from China. Technically Singapore is at war with China. China wants to make Singapore a whipping boy to taunt USA. Incidentently SM Lee not around anymore to champion for Singapore.

Possible? Probable? Probably? Unlikely? Never know? Anything can happen to small red dot.

aiyah Even before our mobilization successfully occurs, people defer for overseas work or go missing. Then before we evne think of attacking, a Chinese DF-31 or Jl-2 nukes us.
 
中俄边界争端与中共民卖国

The Russian order the PLA to backoff and set no defenece at the norther boder.Communist had let off the size of 32 Taiwan island to the Russia.
This land belongs to China and even ROC dare not sign the treaty but the Communist afraid of her master USSR and sign the treaty.
The Russian order the Communist to backoff and this Communist bastard just backoff.Really very loyal to her master Russia!!! :oIo: :oIo: :oIo:

hahaha, heh bastard, who is the one backing down now???USSR or Communist China???kNN tell you something, you got no face to face us anymore because what you say really lack of substance...
in the future, no one will believe what you say!!! :oIo: :oIo: :oIo:

These are not surrendered through military defeats or threats. For the exact political purposes, whatever advantages gained and disadvantages conceded, I don't know. Anyway, there's not much popular dissent over these among PRC citizens and CCP Central themselves. If ROC is interested in defending these borderlands as part of China, can always declare war on Russia, Vietnam and Tajikstan.
 
These are not surrendered through military defeats or threats. For the exact political purposes, whatever advantages gained and disadvantages conceded, I don't know. Anyway, there's not much popular dissent over these among PRC citizens and CCP Central themselves. If ROC is interested in defending these borderlands as part of China, can always declare war on Russia, Vietnam and Tajikstan.

:eek: :eek: :eek:
 
Hello friends, can get back to topic or not? Singapore technically goes to war with China.
Rather than goes back to ancient history, why not talk about present and future possibilities? There won't be another Long March.

Will Taiwan and Japan be in same camp as us?
Will the ROC put our troops there in barracks in order not to antagonise PRC?
Who will support us besides US, Britain and Australia?
Will ASEAN become a NATO - No Action Talk Only?
 
Hello friends, can get back to topic or not? Singapore technically goes to war with China.
Rather than goes back to ancient history, why not talk about present and future possibilities? There won't be another Long March.

Will Taiwan and Japan be in same camp as us?
Will the ROC put our troops there in barracks in order not to antagonise PRC?
Who will support us besides US, Britain and Australia?
Will ASEAN become a NATO - No Action Talk Only?

I would think in future possibilities SG & ROC may merge into PRC :eek:

Unless DPP win the Presidential Election 2012 & continue to fight for Taiwan independence. 45% chances this may happen :D

Unless WP win the SG General Election in next 10 years. 0.001% chances this may happen :rolleyes:
 
I don't understand why u all talking SG war China. We have no territoy dispute with China. We have dispute with mudland. We have no common border with China. We have lots with Mudland and Indonesia. If war ever happens, it will be with Mudland and Indonesia, not China.

And I am anti-war.
 
I don't understand why u all talking SG war China. We have no territoy dispute with China. We have dispute with mudland. We have no common border with China. We have lots with Mudland and Indonesia. If war ever happens, it will be with Mudland and Indonesia, not China.

And I am anti-war.

Well said... not to mention lot of our $$$ pump into PRC with no returns :rolleyes:
 
I don't understand why u all talking SG war China. We have no territoy dispute with China. We have dispute with mudland. We have no common border with China. We have lots with Mudland and Indonesia. If war ever happens, it will be with Mudland and Indonesia, not China.

What if PRC and ROC go to war? What shall the Singapore troops in ROC do?

并肩作战 with ROC or 里应外合 with PRC?
 
The Russian order the PLA to backoff and set no defenece at the norther boder.Communist had let off the size of 32 Taiwan island to the Russia.
This land belongs to China and even ROC dare not sign the treaty but the Communist afraid of her master USSR and sign the treaty.
The Russian order the Communist to backoff and this Communist bastard just backoff.Really very loyal to her master Russia!!!

Outer Manchuria was ceded by Qing dynasty to Russia in 1860s. I think 1945-1949 ROC territory maps don't include Outer Manchuria so KMT also stop claiming that territory as part of China. The predecessor governments Qing and KMT didn't reclaim Outer Manchuria so can't blame Mao and CCP for everything.

KMT recognized Outer Mongolia [40 times Taiwan size] independence in 1946 under pressure from Russia and US. In 1953, KMT started claiming Outer Mongolia as ROC's territory again.
Chiang Gong and KMT also do this kind of things. :D
 
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