[Sg] - Persatuan Melayu Kristian, (ie. Malay Christian Association) of Singapore

[UltimaOnline]

Is it true that a Singaporean Malay can choose not to be a Muslim but a Malaysian Malay cannot? If so, what would happen to Singaporean Malays who choose not to be Muslims but who then travel to Malaysia? Would they still be forced to follow sharia?


SM Art
Yes, Singapore practises freedom of religion. Every person under the Singapore sun can choose what religion to profess. This also includes the changing and converting to other religions that one was not born into.

Yes, Muslim Malays in Singapore are free to leave Islam for any other religions. Infact there is a group in Singapore called Persatuan Melayu Kristian (ie. Malay Christian Association), for those Malays who have converted to Christianity.

Unfortunately in Malaysia, the Malay Muslims are stuck as Muslims. The laws do not give them freedom to choose their religion. Whilst there is freedom amongst all non-muslim religions such as Buddhism, Hinduism, Christianity, Baha'i, etc. to change their religion, BUT the moment one converts to Islam, you are screwed for life. You loose your freedom to convert out or to choose your religion after that.

To answer your question, so long as you are NOT a Muslim at the point of entry into Malaysia, the Malaysian law cannot touch you on any Sharia crap, regardless of whether you are Malay or not.

https://www.quora.com/Is-it-true-th...ms-but-who-then-travel-to-Malaysia-Would-they

 

[duluxe]

Sinkie Young Malay Zulhaqem Zulkifli has a degree in buddhist studies from Oxford, don't play play.

https://www.sammyboy.com/threads/si...udies-teaching-buddhism-using-sanskrit.354875

 

[ChinaCommunistSG]

As far as I know, many non pious Malay avoid going to Malaysia during fasting month to avoid being arrested for breaking Islamic law

 

[laksaboy]

When a Melayu gets divorced from the pedophile warlord death cult, he/she can enjoy this. Best enjoyed during lunchtime in the month of Ramadan.

 

[Loofydralb]

Is it true that a Singaporean Malay can choose not to be a Muslim but a Malaysian Malay cannot? If so, what would happen to Singaporean Malays who choose not to be Muslims but who then travel to Malaysia? Would they still be forced to follow sharia?


SM Art
Yes, Singapore practises freedom of religion. Every person under the Singapore sun can choose what religion to profess. This also includes the changing and converting to other religions that one was not born into.

Yes, Muslim Malays in Singapore are free to leave Islam for any other religions. Infact there is a group in Singapore called Persatuan Melayu Kristian (ie. Malay Christian Association), for those Malays who have converted to Christianity.

Unfortunately in Malaysia, the Malay Muslims are stuck as Muslims. The laws do not give them freedom to choose their religion. Whilst there is freedom amongst all non-muslim religions such as Buddhism, Hinduism, Christianity, Baha'i, etc. to change their religion, BUT the moment one converts to Islam, you are screwed for life. You loose your freedom to convert out or to choose your religion after that.

To answer your question, so long as you are NOT a Muslim at the point of entry into Malaysia, the Malaysian law cannot touch you on any Sharia crap, regardless of whether you are Malay or not.

https://www.quora.com/Is-it-true-th...ms-but-who-then-travel-to-Malaysia-Would-they

The correct term for them is MURTAD.

So it should be called Persatuan Murtad Singapura. As they leave Islam they're no longer Malay.

And persons such as yourself who never embraced Islam is called KAFIR.

 

[bigozt]

Hear hear. Don't call my culture's food unclean. It is that religion's thinking is unclean.

 

[duluxe]

So it should be called Persatuan Murtad Singapura. As they leave Islam they're no longer Malay.

That debunked the lie made by @Likemeat who say "there is no compulsion in religion".

When a malay left islam, the whole community will disown him/her.

 

[laksaboy]

On the flip side. the Muslims also have their little organization for the infidels who newly converted.

 

[Loofydralb]

On the flip side. the Muslims also have their little organization for the infidels who newly converted.

Right.
And if these guys learn to speak Malay, adopt the customs and have mannerisms and outlook, they too can be Malay.

Now I am in the process of turning one angmoh into a Malay, InShaAllah! Hopefully his whole family! If Allah wills it.
He loves spicy food now.

 

[syed putra]

Many bumis are Christians in jiu hu. They are mostly iban, Kadazans, dusun, murut, kelapit, penans..... Look like malay. May have Muslim name even, like idris jala. But are not Muslim.
I go jb drinking, boozing no issues. But not at kopitiam. You need to go more discreet very dark murky places.

 

[syed putra]

Right.
And if these guys learn to speak Malay, adopt the customs and have mannerisms and outlook, they too can be Malay.

Now I am in the process of turning one angmoh into a Malay, InShaAllah! Hopefully his whole family! If Allah wills it.
He loves spicy food now.

You are turning the ang moh into a pagan. Anyone with religion put religion first before doing good deeds. They serve their religion and not the merciful.

 

[red amoeba]

Why would you want to give up having 4 wives and 72 virgins for pork ? It’s incomprehensible.

 

[duluxe]

Many bumis are Christians in jiu hu. They are mostly iban, Kadazans, dusun, murut, kelapit, penans..... Look like malay. May have Muslim name even, like idris jala. But are not Muslim.
I go jb drinking, boozing no issues. But not at kopitiam. You need to go more discreet very dark murky places.

Christians bumis from sarawak and sabah.

 

[lianbeng]

Is it true that a Singaporean Malay can choose not to be a Muslim but a Malaysian Malay cannot? If so, what would happen to Singaporean Malays who choose not to be Muslims but who then travel to Malaysia? Would they still be forced to follow sharia?


SM Art
Yes, Singapore practises freedom of religion. Every person under the Singapore sun can choose what religion to profess. This also includes the changing and converting to other religions that one was not born into.

Yes, Muslim Malays in Singapore are free to leave Islam for any other religions. Infact there is a group in Singapore called Persatuan Melayu Kristian (ie. Malay Christian Association), for those Malays who have converted to Christianity.

Unfortunately in Malaysia, the Malay Muslims are stuck as Muslims. The laws do not give them freedom to choose their religion. Whilst there is freedom amongst all non-muslim religions such as Buddhism, Hinduism, Christianity, Baha'i, etc. to change their religion, BUT the moment one converts to Islam, you are screwed for life. You loose your freedom to convert out or to choose your religion after that.

To answer your question, so long as you are NOT a Muslim at the point of entry into Malaysia, the Malaysian law cannot touch you on any Sharia crap, regardless of whether you are Malay or not.

https://www.quora.com/Is-it-true-th...ms-but-who-then-travel-to-Malaysia-Would-they

lianbeng knows some Malay Christians in Singapore who used to be Muslims lah!

 

[Loofydralb]

You are turning the ang moh into a pagan. Anyone with religion put religion first before doing good deeds. They serve their religion and not the merciful.

InShaAllah he will be Muslim before being a Malay.

 

[glockman]

The correct term for them is MURTAD.

So it should be called Persatuan Murtad Singapura. As they leave Islam they're no longer Malay.

And persons such as yourself who never embraced Islam is called KAFIR.

Malay is a race. A malay person can stop being muslim and still be a malay.

 

[syed putra]

Christians bumis from sarawak and sabah.

But many are already living in peninsula.

 

[syed putra]

Malay is a race. A malay person can stop being muslim and still be a malay.

By law he leaves the malay race upon renouncing islam

 

[syed putra]

lianbeng knows some Malay Christians in Singapore who used to be Muslims lah!

I dunno why they bother with another religion.

 

[Loofydralb]

Malay is a race. A malay person can stop being muslim and still be a malay.

That's not what you see locally. Even LKY admits that. That's why you have indians that are registered as Malay. The assume the religion and identity of a Malay.
Those who leave Islam are MURTADs.
And culturally when asked, people will not identify them as Malays but MURTADs.
You're always welcomed to be owners of this island. Just slice it off! Hahaha