Sad news just in:: SDP has just withdrawing from the by-election

[metalmickey]

I can't imagine someone donating money to the SDP being happy to see this:

I can't imagine that VW and PT actually thought they were going to contest in this. I hope they were doing this "just in case" they could reach an agreement with WP. I wonder what made them think that they were ever going to contest in PE... Permanent head damage.

And may I add - permanent hair damage as well.

 

[yellowarse]

I can't imagine that VW and PT actually thought they were going to contest in this. I hope they were doing this "just in case" they could reach an agreement with WP. I wonder what made them think that they were ever going to contest in PE... Permanent head damage.

Guess we may never have the full inside story. That's what makes politics so intriguing and interesting. There will be a lot of speculation swirling around in the aftermath of this dramatic announcement.

 

[yellowarse]

Actually, I think Yellow is the best and relatively the most objective SDP supporter in this forum.

Thanks, but time to focus on the PAP vs WP vs SDA vs RP contest.

SDP will regroup to fight another day - in 2016.

 

[metalmickey]

Guess we may never have the full inside story. That's what makes politics so intriguing and interesting. There will be a lot of speculation swirling around in the aftermath of this dramatic announcement.

Speaking of which - here is the really juicy leak:

http://www.sammyboy.com/showthread.php?140712-Revelations-from-SDP-EGM-last-night

Unconfirmed but plausible. Makes you wonder whose side VW and PT are on.

Well just hope that SDP is involved in a paper recycling program.

 

[Conqueror]

Not So

Scroobal is damn good at predicting. He correctly predicted this pull out and also WP will field LLL.

*Applause*

Don't really need to predict lah. Dr. Chee is just testing water. He just need the TV time slot to air his view because its free and legal. Anyway, he should know that by interfering with WP's plan to occupy this tiny little insignificant spot with peasantry's balls in the hands of the fascists is going to get backlashes from all oppo supporters. This is not surprising. He wants to create a buzz to tell people here that we should also remember that SDP is also an opposition party and not just that pseudo oppo cum PAP 2.

Even if WP wins this miserable SMC, what can you get from a minority. Like I have said, WP is not the opposition. The opposition must be the collective force of WP + SDP + NSP + etc to gain a strong foothold to nip PAP's policies at the buds.

Until today, I still don't see any hope for a real change. A real change to change our fate.

 

[yellowarse]

Re: Not So

Even if WP wins this miserable SMC, what can you get from a minority. Like I have said, WP is not the opposition. The opposition must be the collective force of WP + SDP + NSP + etc to gain a strong foothold to nip PAP's policies at the buds.

Well said. Up you.

 

[sleaguepunter]

I can't imagine someone donating money to the SDP being happy to see this:

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wao lao, sdp liao lui. why print 2 sets of posters when there will only be one candidate.

now make worse by withdrawing.

btw, where can get these poster, confirm collector items.

 

[Conqueror]

Re: Not So

Well said. Up you.

Thanks anyway.

 

[cass888]

Don't really need to predict lah. Dr. Chee is just testing water. He just need the TV time slot to air his view because its free and legal. Anyway, he should know that by interfering with WP's plan to occupy this tiny little insignificant spot with peasantry's balls in the hands of the fascists is going to get backlashes from all oppo supporters. This is not surprising. He wants to create a buzz to tell people here that we should also remember that SDP is also an opposition party and not just that pseudo oppo cum PAP 2.

Even if WP wins this miserable SMC, what can you get from a minority. Like I have said, WP is not the opposition. The opposition must be the collective force of WP + SDP + NSP + etc to gain a strong foothold to nip PAP's policies at the buds.

Until today, I still don't see any hope for a real change. A real change to change our fate.

Sorry to break your bubble.His excellency's loyal opposition comprises the WP and the SPP.

 

[cass888]

wao lao, sdp liao lui. why print 2 sets of posters when there will only be one candidate.

now make worse by withdrawing.

btw, where can get these poster, confirm collector items.

Posters cheap because not yet mounted on plywood.PT's monthly pocket money to his kid.

 

[Sinkie]

Re: Not So

Don't really need to predict lah. Dr. Chee is just testing water. He just need the TV time slot to air his view because its free and legal. Anyway, he should know that by interfering with WP's plan to occupy this tiny little insignificant spot with peasantry's balls in the hands of the fascists is going to get backlashes from all oppo supporters. This is not surprising. He wants to create a buzz to tell people here that we should also remember that SDP is also an opposition party and not just that pseudo oppo cum PAP 2.

Even if WP wins this miserable SMC, what can you get from a minority. Like I have said, WP is not the opposition. The opposition must be the collective force of WP + SDP + NSP + etc to gain a strong foothold to nip PAP's policies at the buds.

Until today, I still don't see any hope for a real change. A real change to change our fate.

A democratic country should welcome all types of opposition. The political awareness of the country is still very immature. For those who think WP is the de-facto opposition, better loosen up for I really doubt WP alone can take on the PAP.

Just because WP has some MPs in parliament, it is still using the GRC system to get into parliament, just like what the PAP has been doing all along.

Besides LTK, I seriously doubt any other WP member can helm a one-to-one contest in an SMC.

LLL has her challenge cut out for her. I seriously doubt she can win over Punggol East residents. The better bet would have been Michelle Lee. It is a big mistake to field LLL in Punggol East again. Michelle Lee is more likeable personale, which is what Punggol East residents will be voting for. Punggol East residents are dumb. They can't think beyond their own selfish motivation.

 

[yellowarse]

Re: Not So

A democratic country should welcome all types of opposition. The political awareness of the country is still very immature. For those who think WP is the de-facto opposition, better loosen up for I really doubt WP alone can take on the PAP.

Well said. Up you.

 

[Conqueror]

wao lao, sdp liao lui. why print 2 sets of posters when there will only be one candidate.

now make worse by withdrawing.

btw, where can get these poster, confirm collector items.

Anyway, time is money too. But, I really hope they are serious about the coming GE. And they did not even waste that chance of winning more hearts and souls in this BE too. Now, it seems like they have done you a favour instead. It seems like their strategy works. Some people will now praise them for being wise.

The buzz works in mysterious way.

 

[Conqueror]

Sorry to break your bubble.His excellency's loyal opposition comprises the WP and the SPP.

No alliance is definite and infinite.

 

[Conqueror]

Priceless

Posters cheap because not yet mounted on plywood.PT's monthly pocket money to his kid.

Sorry, but winning the hearts and souls for the next GE .... PRICELESS .

 

[Sinkie]

Re: Not So

Well said. Up you.

Thanks and all the hints of a multi-cornered fight is just the Opposition parties and independents baiting PAP on.

 

[ray_of_hope]

I don't know how their donors will feel, but I felt fishy after seeing this.

No poor party in the right mind will make two sets of posters then withdraw from the election, and still show the whole world their wastage.

Let me hazard a guess at something here, Given the mess they got themselves in, and the very late decision not to contest, they decided that they would show the posters they had already made so as to prove that they were not engaged in a big show but were serious to contest. However, as you rightly point out, by showing the posters they make themselves look silly for the utter waste involved. They got themselves in this mess simply because they did not take the NSP and SPP approach by saying right at the outset that SDP will not contest.

 

[Conqueror]

Re: Not So

A democratic country should welcome all types of opposition. The political awareness of the country is still very immature. For those who think WP is the de-facto opposition, better loosen up for I really doubt WP alone can take on the PAP.

LLL has her challenge cut out for her. I seriously doubt she can win over Punggol East residents. The better bet would have been Michelle Lee. It is a big mistake to field LLL in Punggol East again. Michelle Lee is more likeable personale, which is what Punggol East residents will be voting for. Punggol East residents are dumb. They can't think beyond their own selfish motivation.

She's NOT pregnant but she's getting fatter 'siboh' ?

Immaturity is a nice word. :p We all know what others have called us before. WP is not a real oppo at this point of time. Maybe not now when PAP's influence is still strong. I hope Low does not treat WP as his hobby kit or a pastime. Telling him to stop warming the seats will be a great start for the year.

 

[Fook Seng]

No. Arrogant or not, it's not up to the SDP to paint. It's up to the electorate to decide.

The arrogance - IMHO - lies in the way WP chose not to reply to SDP's e-mails. If they had responded and kindly rejected the offer, it would have been viewed differently. CSJ would not have bungled and published the e-mails.

Furthermore, CSJ approaching WP and the other parties was entirely in character. He and TSJ both believe in opposition unity.

I almost choked. CSJ's bungling is now blamed on WP.

CSJ approaching WP the way he did was entirely in character. Everybody not only WP would be extremely worried if they are approached this way. I do not know how many times he has changed his plan about "opposition unity". The candidate/TC may not have been the first proposal he would have made. Maybe the offer not to contest with territorial exclusivity in GE 2016 was the original intention. That could also be what WP was thinking when they received the first email. If this was what WP had thought and they had no plan to think so far, they would not have a desire to meet. To view that as arrogance would be to view this with green tinted eyes.

Anyway if SDP was sincere in "opposition unity" they should have just followed the examples of NSP and SSP without setting any conditions. I believe this must be in WP's mind as well. In fact, CST took the added trouble to clarify with MSM on the mistake that SSP had collected nomination papers. By setting conditions, it is as good as saying, without conditions being met, SDP would throw "opposition unity" to the wind. This showed how much SDP or rather CSJ (we now know he had acted without seeking his CEC's approval) believes in "opposition unity". And the rest of the episode that we now know was a fabrication just to save face after they had made public the first email and WP had maintained its silence. Without going public, they would not have gone into such lengths to cook up such a great story that even CSJ himself admitted eventually that he knew WP would never have agreed.

This whole episode cannot be blamed on any other party than SDP's own internal problems. There was no consensus on whether to contest and CJS acted ultra vires to make public his emails and made those proposals that had made him the laughing stock. No wonder he got voted out on the participation in the BE. I think instead of finding fault with others, SDP should look inwards to analyse how such an embarrassment could have taken place and what steps are required to prevent this from happening again. And the people who have resigned, including a Dr Ang, according to the rumour, are these the end of the trouble and what can be done to prevent further deterioration.That is probably what is of immediate priority.

 

[billisnotathome]

Re: Not So

Besides LTK, I seriously doubt any other WP member can helm a one-to-one contest in an SMC.

Are you fucking joking or did you just forget YJJ lost by a couple of hundred votes in JC?