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rich vs. poor - high ses vs. low ses housing

From the ang moh expats.. one of their popular area to rent private condo apartment is Geylang.

Surprise right ? :biggrin:

Because of its easy accessibility to city area & reasonably rental prices.

All these 老 gin dun know wan ...
Actually geylang is a good area location wise. Near town etc. Just tat the sleezy side gives it a bad reputation and not a family friendly environment.
 
never follow any advice and tips from anyone who buy homes in jb. credibility is already shitty. but i sympathize with those who fell for the frenzy.

Yes Sir ... just to add on Lake District wasn't the foreign expats' favorite area.
 
Yes Sir ... just to add on Lake District wasn't the foreign expats' favorite area.
You are a typical shameless Malaysian opening your ccb mouth spewing ccb lies based on hot air when ura transactions already proven the expats rental.
 
never follow any advice and tips from anyone who buy homes in jb. credibility is already shitty. but i sympathize with those who fell for the frenzy.
Ok lah Bloomberg endorsed my theory that surging property prices should push rental to record high and not depressed prices. The only way to explain this anomaly is moron hdb sinkie landlord depressing the market by underpricing rental of their new condos.
 
in sg, thanks to the excellent and diversified pubic transport systems, high ses ang mohs don’t need to stay close to their workplaces. with the bedok reservoir mrt station within walking distance from the condo any expat renting there can hop on a train and be at work within minutes. ang mohs prefer the view of a big pond, east coast lifestyle, proximity to east coast park, and easy access to changi airport since they travel a lot internationally and within the region. west coast is swarmed with jiuhukia’s, cina mei meis, and clueless ang mohs and japs who think staying near kent ridge reduces their commute time by 69 minutes. they are wrong, and after 6.9 months in sg they move to the east coast looking for better and more atas housing with better and more atas sinkies around them.
Well I have never come across any tenant that moved to the east from the west. Only from condo to hdb. It’s very inconvenient to live in the east and work in the west unless you drive and these expats don’t drive.
 
Well I have never come across any tenant that moved to the east from the west. Only from condo to hdb. It’s very inconvenient to live in the east and work in the west unless you drive and these expats don’t drive.
many expats take mrt trains lah. i see them everyday all dressed up in the morning taking the e-w line from pasir ris, tampines, bedok, kembangan to paya lebar to change trains or to city center. some go all the way to boon lay. some songsong go to jurong.
 
many expats take mrt trains lah. i see them everyday all dressed up in the morning taking the e-w line from pasir ris, tampines, bedok, kembangan to paya lebar to change trains or to city center. some go all the way to boon lay. some songsong go to jurong.
I don’t think so. They must be stupid to live in the east and travel one hour plus when they can live in the west and nearby their work place.
 
I don’t think so. They must be stupid to live in the east and travel one hour plus when they can live in the west and nearby their work place.
where got 1 hour? and not all the jobs for expats are in west coast ok? facts are contradictory to your claims. show me any proof that says expats like to live in lake district, west coast or songsongjurong.

http://www.livinginsingapore.org/seven-best-places-to-live-in-singapore/

Seven (6.9) Best Places to Live in Singapore for Expats

Singapore is a small country, where neighborhoods bleed into one another easily. Even if you are going to visit a friend on the other side of the country – it will only take you about 45 minutes at most to get there.

With strong public transportation connecting them all together, it is hard to go wrong when choosing a home base.

Still each area has its own personality and character, which is important to think about as you consider the best place to live.

Here are some of the top places for expats to live, chosen for personality, amenities, location and budget.

Tiong Bahru
Tiong Bahru is a heritage housing estate rich with retro charm. The city planning designed the streets in an interlocking horse shoe shape, enclosing a community center. Located only about 15 minutes outside of the city centre, Tiong Bahru is a nice escape from the skyscrapers of downtown and has a much more quiet feel.

Your apartment is likely to be a walkup, but if you can handle the stairs, you’ll enjoy a beautiful space. The postwar apartments, when kept up well – or renovated – boast elegant vintage details such as covered porches and intricate window grates.

In the last 10 years, Tiong Bahru has seen a revival of young artsy shops and hip cafes restaurants that have some calling it “Singapore’s Brooklyn.” It’s the perfect location for a lazy Sunday wander in the equatorial heat, with a cup of 40 Handscoffee in hand.

Or, make your way to the Tiong Bahru market, one of the handful of wet markets left the in city to pick up some fresh meat and veggies for your dinner.

Holland Village
Holland Village is one of the most popular areas for expats because of its central location – in close proximity to the downtown and Orchard areas, as well as the open space of the Singapore Botanic Gardens and MacRitchie Reservoir. Though home to lots of families, Holland Village still has a very eclectic feel with a variety of bars, shops local and Western restaurants.

Dempsey Hill, an arts and dining enclave, is within walking distance and Biopolis, Fusionopolis, and Mediopolis – several high capacity office complexes aren’t far either. The area has one of the biggest and best hawker centers and the Holland Village Shopping Centre is known as the place to go to find hidden gems.

Holland Village puts you in proximity to some very good schools and a wide range of housing options including high quality HDBs, condos, bungalows, and landed houses – so you can choose the style of living that is right for you.

Tanjong Pagar
Tanjong Pagar boasts many of the classically beautiful shop house storefronts that maintain Singapore’s Malay heritage and give the city it’s sense of picturesque charm. Keong Saik and Neil Roads, within the heart of the area, have transitioned into a hub for Singapore’s growing food and cocktail culture.

Located just outside the central business district, the neighborhood is home to bankers and ad agency suits. They appreciate the short commute to work and plenty of watering holes to meet with friends after work, enjoy a nice weekend brunch, or a romantic night out.

Housing within the shop houses themselves is somewhat rare, and frankly – hit or miss when it comes to quality and privacy. However, the neighborhood offers both HDB housing for those looking to live more locally, and several amenities-rich condo options for those who are willing to pay a premium for a pool and gym facilities.

Sentosa
For those who have a generous relocation package or a little more room in their budget for rent, Sentosa can be a beautiful high-end option. Known as Singapore’s “resort-island” Sentosa boasts homes right on the water, both in beautiful condos and even in some landed houses.

If breezy and quiet spaces, with the beach right out your window sound too good to pass up – Sentosa Island might be the right fit for you, but be ready for the price tag.

Locals say that the community has a real neighborhood feel, though in a decidedly resort-like way – including access to a golf course.

Sentosa is a bit of a journey from the attractions of ’mainland’ Singapore, and so you’ll need to plan your trips to the grocery store at VivoCity Mall a bit more carefully, but it is still easy enough to access by both car and a special tramline that connects to the overall MRT system at the Harbourfront station.

Geylang
Geylang is a decidedly more local area, perhaps even more authentically Chinese than Chinatown. About 15 outside the city to the East, Hawker centers and street stalls are far more common than a fancy cocktail bar in this part of the city. But many appreciate the gritty charm that comes along with the neighborhood that has been traditionally identified as Singapore’s red light district.

That distinction still holds true today, but the area is safe and has a robust community feel, as well as greater access to nature along the (park walkway). Geylang nicely balances between being a bit more budget friendly and still having quick access to offices and restaurants downtown.

Geylang also offers a mix of HDBs and condos, though the condos in this part of town tend to be smaller, with fewer units, and less sprawling grounds.

East Coast
The east coast, is more traditionally known as a home base for families. It is quieter, and has more access to nature. Many housing complexes are located only a short walk away from the East Coast Park, the long narrow strip along the beach that offers heaps of greenery and a great view of the ocean.

Rollerblading and biking along the park paths is common. And, the streets in this part of town are generally calmer, and so a bike commute to work or school is far more possible.

More distance from the city means more reasonable rents. You can find quite a lot of space, with ample amenities, for the same price tag as a much smaller home in the city center. There are even some landed houses in the area, if you find that privacy and a bit of a backyard are priorities.

Woodlands
Woodlands is located at the far North of the island, closer to Malaysia than the shop houses of Chinatown. But the distance from the city means that this is the place to stretch out.

On an island, space comes at a premium, but Woodlands offers reasonably priced large houses with green space. The area is home to a large community of American expats because of the familiar suburban feel and close proximity to the Singapore American school.

The Woodlands have many large malls with restaurants, shopping, and cinemas so the downtown is barely missed. And the causeway to Johor Bahru, Malaysia means that cheap shopping and fresh Hokkien Mee is never too far away.
 
where got 1 hour? and not all the jobs for expats are in west coast ok? facts are contradictory to your claims. show me any proof that says expats like to live in lake district, west coast or songsongjurong.

http://www.livinginsingapore.org/seven-best-places-to-live-in-singapore/

Seven (6.9) Best Places to Live in Singapore for Expats

Singapore is a small country, where neighborhoods bleed into one another easily. Even if you are going to visit a friend on the other side of the country – it will only take you about 45 minutes at most to get there.

With strong public transportation connecting them all together, it is hard to go wrong when choosing a home base.

Still each area has its own personality and character, which is important to think about as you consider the best place to live.

Here are some of the top places for expats to live, chosen for personality, amenities, location and budget.

Tiong Bahru
Tiong Bahru is a heritage housing estate rich with retro charm. The city planning designed the streets in an interlocking horse shoe shape, enclosing a community center. Located only about 15 minutes outside of the city centre, Tiong Bahru is a nice escape from the skyscrapers of downtown and has a much more quiet feel.

Your apartment is likely to be a walkup, but if you can handle the stairs, you’ll enjoy a beautiful space. The postwar apartments, when kept up well – or renovated – boast elegant vintage details such as covered porches and intricate window grates.

In the last 10 years, Tiong Bahru has seen a revival of young artsy shops and hip cafes restaurants that have some calling it “Singapore’s Brooklyn.” It’s the perfect location for a lazy Sunday wander in the equatorial heat, with a cup of 40 Handscoffee in hand.

Or, make your way to the Tiong Bahru market, one of the handful of wet markets left the in city to pick up some fresh meat and veggies for your dinner.

Holland Village
Holland Village is one of the most popular areas for expats because of its central location – in close proximity to the downtown and Orchard areas, as well as the open space of the Singapore Botanic Gardens and MacRitchie Reservoir. Though home to lots of families, Holland Village still has a very eclectic feel with a variety of bars, shops local and Western restaurants.

Dempsey Hill, an arts and dining enclave, is within walking distance and Biopolis, Fusionopolis, and Mediopolis – several high capacity office complexes aren’t far either. The area has one of the biggest and best hawker centers and the Holland Village Shopping Centre is known as the place to go to find hidden gems.

Holland Village puts you in proximity to some very good schools and a wide range of housing options including high quality HDBs, condos, bungalows, and landed houses – so you can choose the style of living that is right for you.

Tanjong Pagar
Tanjong Pagar boasts many of the classically beautiful shop house storefronts that maintain Singapore’s Malay heritage and give the city it’s sense of picturesque charm. Keong Saik and Neil Roads, within the heart of the area, have transitioned into a hub for Singapore’s growing food and cocktail culture.

Located just outside the central business district, the neighborhood is home to bankers and ad agency suits. They appreciate the short commute to work and plenty of watering holes to meet with friends after work, enjoy a nice weekend brunch, or a romantic night out.

Housing within the shop houses themselves is somewhat rare, and frankly – hit or miss when it comes to quality and privacy. However, the neighborhood offers both HDB housing for those looking to live more locally, and several amenities-rich condo options for those who are willing to pay a premium for a pool and gym facilities.

Sentosa
For those who have a generous relocation package or a little more room in their budget for rent, Sentosa can be a beautiful high-end option. Known as Singapore’s “resort-island” Sentosa boasts homes right on the water, both in beautiful condos and even in some landed houses.

If breezy and quiet spaces, with the beach right out your window sound too good to pass up – Sentosa Island might be the right fit for you, but be ready for the price tag.

Locals say that the community has a real neighborhood feel, though in a decidedly resort-like way – including access to a golf course.

Sentosa is a bit of a journey from the attractions of ’mainland’ Singapore, and so you’ll need to plan your trips to the grocery store at VivoCity Mall a bit more carefully, but it is still easy enough to access by both car and a special tramline that connects to the overall MRT system at the Harbourfront station.

Geylang
Geylang is a decidedly more local area, perhaps even more authentically Chinese than Chinatown. About 15 outside the city to the East, Hawker centers and street stalls are far more common than a fancy cocktail bar in this part of the city. But many appreciate the gritty charm that comes along with the neighborhood that has been traditionally identified as Singapore’s red light district.

That distinction still holds true today, but the area is safe and has a robust community feel, as well as greater access to nature along the (park walkway). Geylang nicely balances between being a bit more budget friendly and still having quick access to offices and restaurants downtown.

Geylang also offers a mix of HDBs and condos, though the condos in this part of town tend to be smaller, with fewer units, and less sprawling grounds.

East Coast
The east coast, is more traditionally known as a home base for families. It is quieter, and has more access to nature. Many housing complexes are located only a short walk away from the East Coast Park, the long narrow strip along the beach that offers heaps of greenery and a great view of the ocean.

Rollerblading and biking along the park paths is common. And, the streets in this part of town are generally calmer, and so a bike commute to work or school is far more possible.

More distance from the city means more reasonable rents. You can find quite a lot of space, with ample amenities, for the same price tag as a much smaller home in the city center. There are even some landed houses in the area, if you find that privacy and a bit of a backyard are priorities.

Woodlands
Woodlands is located at the far North of the island, closer to Malaysia than the shop houses of Chinatown. But the distance from the city means that this is the place to stretch out.

On an island, space comes at a premium, but Woodlands offers reasonably priced large houses with green space. The area is home to a large community of American expats because of the familiar suburban feel and close proximity to the Singapore American school.

The Woodlands have many large malls with restaurants, shopping, and cinemas so the downtown is barely missed. And the causeway to Johor Bahru, Malaysia means that cheap shopping and fresh Hokkien Mee is never too far away.
I didn’t say all the expats work in the west, you are the one that said they live in the west then move to the east for better life and travel by mrt to work, which is not supported by facts. Anyway from Bedok reservoir to Tuas to work definitely take more than one hour. In fact, according to Google it’s two hours plus.
 
I didn’t say all the expats work in the west, you are the one that said they live in the west then move to the east for better life and travel by mrt to work, which is not supported by facts. Anyway from Bedok reservoir to Tuas to work definitely take more than one hour. In fact, according to Google it’s two hours plus.
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where got 1 hour? and not all the jobs for expats are in west coast ok? facts are contradictory to your claims. show me any proof that says expats like to live in lake district, west coast or songsongjurong.

http://www.livinginsingapore.org/seven-best-places-to-live-in-singapore/

Seven (6.9) Best Places to Live in Singapore for Expats

Singapore is a small country, where neighborhoods bleed into one another easily. Even if you are going to visit a friend on the other side of the country – it will only take you about 45 minutes at most to get there.

With strong public transportation connecting them all together, it is hard to go wrong when choosing a home base.

Still each area has its own personality and character, which is important to think about as you consider the best place to live.

Here are some of the top places for expats to live, chosen for personality, amenities, location and budget.

Tiong Bahru
Tiong Bahru is a heritage housing estate rich with retro charm. The city planning designed the streets in an interlocking horse shoe shape, enclosing a community center. Located only about 15 minutes outside of the city centre, Tiong Bahru is a nice escape from the skyscrapers of downtown and has a much more quiet feel.

Your apartment is likely to be a walkup, but if you can handle the stairs, you’ll enjoy a beautiful space. The postwar apartments, when kept up well – or renovated – boast elegant vintage details such as covered porches and intricate window grates.

In the last 10 years, Tiong Bahru has seen a revival of young artsy shops and hip cafes restaurants that have some calling it “Singapore’s Brooklyn.” It’s the perfect location for a lazy Sunday wander in the equatorial heat, with a cup of 40 Handscoffee in hand.

Or, make your way to the Tiong Bahru market, one of the handful of wet markets left the in city to pick up some fresh meat and veggies for your dinner.

Holland Village
Holland Village is one of the most popular areas for expats because of its central location – in close proximity to the downtown and Orchard areas, as well as the open space of the Singapore Botanic Gardens and MacRitchie Reservoir. Though home to lots of families, Holland Village still has a very eclectic feel with a variety of bars, shops local and Western restaurants.

Dempsey Hill, an arts and dining enclave, is within walking distance and Biopolis, Fusionopolis, and Mediopolis – several high capacity office complexes aren’t far either. The area has one of the biggest and best hawker centers and the Holland Village Shopping Centre is known as the place to go to find hidden gems.

Holland Village puts you in proximity to some very good schools and a wide range of housing options including high quality HDBs, condos, bungalows, and landed houses – so you can choose the style of living that is right for you.

Tanjong Pagar
Tanjong Pagar boasts many of the classically beautiful shop house storefronts that maintain Singapore’s Malay heritage and give the city it’s sense of picturesque charm. Keong Saik and Neil Roads, within the heart of the area, have transitioned into a hub for Singapore’s growing food and cocktail culture.

Located just outside the central business district, the neighborhood is home to bankers and ad agency suits. They appreciate the short commute to work and plenty of watering holes to meet with friends after work, enjoy a nice weekend brunch, or a romantic night out.

Housing within the shop houses themselves is somewhat rare, and frankly – hit or miss when it comes to quality and privacy. However, the neighborhood offers both HDB housing for those looking to live more locally, and several amenities-rich condo options for those who are willing to pay a premium for a pool and gym facilities.

Sentosa
For those who have a generous relocation package or a little more room in their budget for rent, Sentosa can be a beautiful high-end option. Known as Singapore’s “resort-island” Sentosa boasts homes right on the water, both in beautiful condos and even in some landed houses.

If breezy and quiet spaces, with the beach right out your window sound too good to pass up – Sentosa Island might be the right fit for you, but be ready for the price tag.

Locals say that the community has a real neighborhood feel, though in a decidedly resort-like way – including access to a golf course.

Sentosa is a bit of a journey from the attractions of ’mainland’ Singapore, and so you’ll need to plan your trips to the grocery store at VivoCity Mall a bit more carefully, but it is still easy enough to access by both car and a special tramline that connects to the overall MRT system at the Harbourfront station.

Geylang
Geylang is a decidedly more local area, perhaps even more authentically Chinese than Chinatown. About 15 outside the city to the East, Hawker centers and street stalls are far more common than a fancy cocktail bar in this part of the city. But many appreciate the gritty charm that comes along with the neighborhood that has been traditionally identified as Singapore’s red light district.

That distinction still holds true today, but the area is safe and has a robust community feel, as well as greater access to nature along the (park walkway). Geylang nicely balances between being a bit more budget friendly and still having quick access to offices and restaurants downtown.

Geylang also offers a mix of HDBs and condos, though the condos in this part of town tend to be smaller, with fewer units, and less sprawling grounds.

East Coast
The east coast, is more traditionally known as a home base for families. It is quieter, and has more access to nature. Many housing complexes are located only a short walk away from the East Coast Park, the long narrow strip along the beach that offers heaps of greenery and a great view of the ocean.

Rollerblading and biking along the park paths is common. And, the streets in this part of town are generally calmer, and so a bike commute to work or school is far more possible.

More distance from the city means more reasonable rents. You can find quite a lot of space, with ample amenities, for the same price tag as a much smaller home in the city center. There are even some landed houses in the area, if you find that privacy and a bit of a backyard are priorities.

Woodlands
Woodlands is located at the far North of the island, closer to Malaysia than the shop houses of Chinatown. But the distance from the city means that this is the place to stretch out.

On an island, space comes at a premium, but Woodlands offers reasonably priced large houses with green space. The area is home to a large community of American expats because of the familiar suburban feel and close proximity to the Singapore American school.

The Woodlands have many large malls with restaurants, shopping, and cinemas so the downtown is barely missed. And the causeway to Johor Bahru, Malaysia means that cheap shopping and fresh Hokkien Mee is never too far away.
And I didn’t say that expats like to live in the west. I only said that many Japanese and angmohs working in Jurong (and Tuas) live there. In fact I have had tenants that worked in city too.
 
And I didn’t say that expats like to live in the west. I only said that many Japanese and angmohs working in Jurong (and Tuas) live there. In fact I have had tenants that worked in city too.
depending on availability of rentals and budget, lower ses expats bo pian rent in the west reluctantly. like a sous chef expat who worked at the fairmont near city hall. his rental allowance was only sgd2500. bo pian had to rent at clementi. kpkb during his entire time at fairmont. finally he got promoted to chef and executive chef and worked at the fairmont in sillycon valley. he's now a nutrition chef at google but will tell people that he's working in tech at google as he shows off his badge. :rolleyes:
 
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From the ang moh expats.. one of their popular area to rent private condo apartment is Geylang.

Surprise right ? :biggrin:

Because of its easy accessibility to city area & reasonably rental prices.

All these 老 gin dun know wan ...

Geylang private condominium is much a better place than lake district :smile:

I do agree that foreign expats prefer Geylang area and that old gin really knew nothing about property rental markets :thumbsdown:
 
Geylang private condominium is much a better place than lake district :smile:

I do agree that foreign expats prefer Geylang area and that old gin really knew nothing about property rental markets :thumbsdown:
Stay geylang can eat Liu Lian everyday siah..:D
 
Stay geylang can eat Liu Lian everyday siah..:biggrin:

Yes bro, honestly Geylang is a good place to stay and freehold condominium is value for money.

Nice foods, easy accessibility to Changi Airport and city areas like MBS.

People who invested in Lake District ended up in sorrow :cry:
 
Yes bro, honestly Geylang is a good place to stay and freehold condominium is value for money.

Nice foods, easy accessibility to Changi Airport and city areas like MBS.

People who invested in Lake District ended up in sorrow :cry:
My fear is PAP Cheng hu land acquisition... no such thing as freehold in sinkieland.
 
My fear is PAP Cheng hu land acquisition... no such thing as freehold in sinkieland.

They have to compensate you for acquiring back your freehold (land) property.

Many people used their compensation money to buy another new condominium.
 
They have to compensate you for acquiring back your freehold (land) property.

Many people used their compensation money to buy another new condominium.
Compensation cannot match market rates. New condo you buy is going to be leasehold...
 
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