Reason Why Singaporeans are Angry

[TracyTan866]

Don't worry about how much you have to spend. Concentrate on maximising how much you can earn. When it comes to achieving wealth quickly, nothing beats the Singapore system.

yes, the corrupt PRCs, Indons and Indians are having a ball of a time. LHL is not wise to antagonise Xi and Susilo

 

[TracyTan866]

Ask Lee Hsien Loong why estate duty in Singapore was abolished. Ask him how much is his, his wife, inheritance from Mum and from Dad soon, worth.

Good one. Let the new SG govt conduct a COI

 

[TracyTan866]

The main problem is that we don't want to live with chao ang mohs and other FT's. If we wanted to be 2nd class citizens and get abused by beer swiling ang mohs with a misguided sense of racial superiority, all of us would have migrated to Australia.

Good point. SG belongs to Singaporeans...not pap nor FTs

 

[eatshitndie]

sinkies are angry because bak kut teh cums with one lousy rib, laksa has only four hum, curry puff not puffy enough, chicken wings not crispy, mee pok shrinks, and nasi lemak is served with "alamak!"

everything complain, but kpkb the most with (lack of) food. :p

 

[jubilee1919]

I can understand why they may initially resent the competition but if they treat it as a challenge rather than as a threat, they'll soon cheer up and adjust to the new situation with enthusiasm and gusto.

Pessimism comes from inaction. Those who respond positively to life's challenges seldom end up despondent.

So says many of the older generation who are now wealthy with 5 C's and who at birth were born at home with little medical care and were probably undernourished. It is so easy after one has reach that stage of life, but tell that to Y and Z generation and they will tell you to fly a kite.

 

[TracyTan866]

Citizenship should only be given to those born in this country. You play tennis, you get citizenship; you invest, you get citizenship. It does not make sense how sports and money can tie such new citizens to die for this country.

valid point...that's why Singaporeans are not proud of their red passport now.

huge failure of the pap govt

 

[TracyTan866]

Actually construction cost in Singapore is inexpensive compared to many developed countries.

because pay of construction labourer is low

 

[TracyTan866]

He is a lucky man and one of the few exceptions. Ordinary wage earners now do not have this luxury of doing well in SG.

you believe LeongSam that a tiler commands $4.8k pay per day?

 

[sleaguepunter]

the 51% believe the pap and are not enlightened

the last time i look, it 60.1%

u dun anyhow change number before 2016.

 

[TracyTan866]

Because labour for low wage workers are cheap. So Sam's comments that Singaporeans do not want these "unglamorous" jobs don't hold water. In short he is in self-denial.

well said...

 

[TracyTan866]

Actually he is not the exception. I came from a school close to Hock Lam Street and I'd have to say that the majority of Chinatown boys have made good. Some are professionals. Some are businessmen. Some are Civil Servants. They all succeeded because they knew the value of hard work and an independent spirit.

yes, many of us are successful. many of us are pro Singapore and not pro pap

 

[TracyTan866]

A tradesman is not a laborer. A tradesman is someone who possesses a special set of skills required of a particular vocation. He is the one qualified to do the work.

He hires labor to do the dirty unskilled part of the job at a cheap rate but he makes a lot of money himself. However, it is a tough job often in hot and uncomfortable conditions which the majority of Singaporeans shun.

a bricklayer is a labourer, a tiler is a labourer,

 

[TracyTan866]

So in the 60's 2 million population was enough, therefore they say "stop at 2, 1 is enough." After Goh took over the population started increasing and like a frog in the slow-boiled water we discovered the population has suddenly increased to 3.31 million. Together with foreigners the population is now about 5.4 million.

With the target to reach 6.9 million by 2030, will that be enough? If we look back into the past and the continual addition of foreigners to increase the population, the contention by the PAP was that we need more people to increase jobs and GDP. When will there ever be a time when Singapore no longer need a larger population to increase jobs and GDP? NEVER!

LKY said 4.4m is optimal

 

[Leongsam]

So says many of the older generation who are now wealthy with 5 C's and who at birth were born at home with little medical care and were probably undernourished. It is so easy after one has reach that stage of life, but tell that to Y and Z generation and they will tell you to fly a kite.

My nephews in Singapore are not complaining. They're all doing well and earning good money considering their age.

 

[TracyTan866]

Buddy, you got it wrong. Locals who want to be builders, plumbers and carpenters have to compete with FTsh for the jobs. Employers pay levies to Govt for employing FTsh but they have to pay CPF contribution for employing locals. From Govt point of view, the levies represent a source of revenue but the CPF contribution must be returned to the locals. As long it is cheaper to pay levies, employers will recruit FTsh. If you were the Govt, what would you want to collect? Non-returnable levies or returnable CPF contributions?

He does not know SG system

 

[TracyTan866]

Vocations are not jobs. There may be a period of apprenticeship but once that is over, a tradesman is running his own show. How much work you get depends upon the quality of your work, the ability to get good references and the price you charge.

An FT tradesman and a local tradesmen have exactly the same overheads. There is no advantage being a foreigner.

vocation is tantamount to an occupation. are you saying that's different from a job?

 

[TracyTan866]

How does a local contractor compete with a Malaysian contractor for example when the latter employs his own Malaysian workers who stays in Johore and ride everyday into Singapore on their motorcycles and do the skilled and unskilled jobs?

let him be perpetually ignorant and make a fool of himself whenever he opens his mouth

 

[TracyTan866]

I worked in manufacturing in Singapore for more than 10 years. When the factory was expanding, I had to take on the role of facilities manager working with the construction company project manager. I know how it works. Even in those days, I found that when it came to wiring, piping, gas installation etc, most of the skilled, well paying parts of the construction were done by Malaysians/Thais. The donkey work was done by the banglas.

The project manager told me himself that it was very hard to find a Singaporean electrician or gas fitter. The hours were long and irregular and involved heights and confined spaces and most Singaporeans wanted office hour jobs in an air con environment.

10years ago is history.

 

[Leongsam]

a bricklayer is a labourer, a tiler is a labourer,

A laborer is someone who is paid a wage for his labor. If you're running the show, you earn a profit from the jobs that you do.

When I need tiling work done in my home, I contact someone with good references. He comes and takes a look and quotes for the job.

If he gets the job he'll show up on the agreed date with a couple of laborers. One guy is usually tasked with mixing all the adhesives and grout. Another guy would be cutting the tiles to shape along the lines drawn by the tiler.

At the end of the job, I pay the tiler. He pays his laborers. The difference is his profit.

A skilled tiler can make a lot of money.

 

[TracyTan866]

The Singaporeans hire exactly the same people. The Malaysian/Bangla workers couldn't care less whether they are hired by a sinkie or a malaysian as long as they are paid.

The Sinkie guy (my ex LCP) who re-tiled my roof got all his labor either from Bangladesh, Thailand or Malaysia.

10 years ago, SG has bangla workers?