Pope Francis says migrants are ‘like Jesus, forced to flee’

[whoami]

i agree US is very busy body and intervene too much in other countries affairs. You forget jihad and sectarian attacks between muslim countries in ME. Even without US and NATO, the ME is very messy. Western allies helped ME countries to get rid of their dictators in Arab Spring, they also killed innocent targets by mistake not by plan.

Sectarian attacks is between themselves. Why kapo interfere and kill the innocents? Ur family disputes, i interfere and kill ur family members. U happy?

In this world teres no freebies. No such thing as i help get rid of Saddam and get nothing in return. Are u nuts? With interference fm USA and western powers, it made matters worst! Most of the innocents were killed deliberately or couldnt care less attitude. Afterall they were Muslims whereas the invaders were xtians, no? US and allies used carpet bombing, no? ME is like hell fire. Look at Iraq. Till now no peace. Sectarian war on the increase.

Now, if u care to do some research, u will know suicide bombing only started to increase after sept 11, 2001. So no need a rocket scientist to tell u why the Muslims are angry with US/Israel.

Iran 1980 [Invasion]
9/11 2001 [evil ploy by zionist jews/xtians]
Afghanistan 2001 [Invasion]
Iraq 2003 [Invasion of Iraq}
Lybia 2011 [downfall of Gadafi]
Egypt 2011 [egypt revolution]
Syria 2014 [Invade/air strike Syria]

 

[cinababi]

U are a retard. Not just Iraq but almost whole of ME! Invasion and intervention of Eypt, Lybia, Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan, Iran.....list goes on and on! Xtian US, UK and Western allies on a massacring spree! Whole country in total destruction. Causing billion of migrants and refugees. Million of death mainly old woman, ederly, children. And the butchers went scot free! And they say xtianity preached LOVE?

Yes they are forced to flee by foreign invaders who only have interest in the oil.

 

[duluxe]

So now, kill all the boys, as well as every woman who has had relations with a man, 18but spare for yourselves every girl who has never had relations with a man.19All of you who have killed a person or touched the dead are to remain outside the camp for seven days. On the third day and the seventh day you are to purify both yourselves and your captives.…[Numbs 31:18]

the old testament is commob

They dud get rid of Saddam. But destroyed the entire country on purpose doing it. Now iraqis reminisce return of Saddam.
Iraqi army surrendered en masse when US army invaded as purpose was to get rid of Saddam.but the real purpose was much more sinister. It was to punish iraqis for 9/11. Something they were not responsible for..

The whole world including non muslims know US has another agenda, OIL.

 

[whoami]

the old testament is commob

Since its also mentioned in ur bible, then why are u criticising Islam? Double standard?

 

[whoami]

The whole world including non muslims know US has another agenda, OIL.

Yes agree. But tell it to some retard here. They will tell u US have alot oil reserve. But they didnt tell u since when, how and where butcher US got those oil fm.

 

[duluxe]

The Bible commands and/or condones rape, sex slavery and the abuse of girls and women in a number of verses (meaning that the commandments are not accidental or misinterpretations). As the Wikipedia page "The Bible and Slavery" explains: "The Bible nowhere condemns slavery, but allows a regulated practice of it, especially under the Old Testament, but also in the New Testament. Male Israelite slaves were to be offered release after six years of service, with some stipulations. However, girls, women and foreign slaves and their offspring became the perpetual property of the owner's family, except in the case of certain injuries. The regulation of slavery in the Bible, and absence of outright condemnation of it as an institution, was later used to justify slavery by its defenders [such as American Christians who owned slaves in the southern states]."

The New Testament never condemns the institution of slavery. Indeed, Saint Paul's epistle to Philemon became an important text in regard to slavery; as it was used by American slaveowners to require Northern Christians to return escaped slaves to their Southern masters. In the epistle, Paul returns Onesimus, a runaway Christian slave, to his Christian master Philemon. Neither Jesus Christ, nor Paul, nor any apostle or Hebrew prophet ever clearly condemned the institution of slavery. Here are examples of Bible passages that clearly command or condone slavery, sex slavery and/or rape:

When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not please the man who bought her, he may allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. And if the slave girl's owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave girl, but he must treat her as his daughter. If he himself marries her and then takes another wife, he may not reduce her food or clothing or fail to sleep with her as his wife. If he fails in any of these three ways, she may leave as a free woman without making any payment. (Exodus 21:7-11 NLT)

All religions except Islam have moved on from their past. Today, muslim men desire to emulate their prophet and have sex with under age girls. Please do not quote non religion related cases.

FROM THE QURAN - 23:5,6

"...who restrain their carnal desires (except with their wives and slave girls, for these are lawful to them..."



Again, Muslim men were allowed to have sexual relations with their wives and slave girls.







FROM THE QURAN - 4:24

"And all married women are forbidden unto you save those captives whom your right hand possess. It is a decree of Allah for you. (Muhammad Pickthall's English translation of the Quran).





This verse is one verse out of a long passage dealing with who Muslim men can marry or have sexual relations with. The phrase "captives whom your right hand possess", means the slave girls Muslim men own.

Note also that this passage deals with more than just marriage. In Sahih Muslim volume 2, #3432, the background context for this Quranic verse is given. It relates to the events at Autus, and it permitted the Muslim men to have sex with their female slaves.







FROM THE QURAN - 33:50

"Prophet, We have made lawful to you the wives whom you have granted dowries and the slave girls whom God has given you as booty;..."





This verse is for Muhammad. Supposedly, God allows Muhammad to have sex with his slave girls.





These verses establish that it was permissible for Muslim men to have sex with female slaves.

 

[duluxe]

Since its also mentioned in ur bible, then why are u criticising Islam? Double standard?

All religions today have moved forwards except Islam.

 

[duluxe]

Sure. Xtians preach peace.

George Bush is not a Pope, Pastor, Priest, IMAM, Monk, Bomoh or religion leader. The meaning is artinya pemimpin agama. In 2020, only the religion leaders of Islam IMAMS) still preach hate and teach kids to hate jews, christians and infidels.

 

[whoami]

All religions except Islam have moved on from their past. Today, muslim men desire to emulate their prophet and have sex with under age girls. Please do not quote non religion related cases.

FROM THE QURAN - 23:5,6

"...who restrain their carnal desires (except with their wives and slave girls, for these are lawful to them..."



Again, Muslim men were allowed to have sexual relations with their wives and slave girls.







FROM THE QURAN - 4:24

"And all married women are forbidden unto you save those captives whom your right hand possess. It is a decree of Allah for you. (Muhammad Pickthall's English translation of the Quran).





This verse is one verse out of a long passage dealing with who Muslim men can marry or have sexual relations with. The phrase "captives whom your right hand possess", means the slave girls Muslim men own.

Note also that this passage deals with more than just marriage. In Sahih Muslim volume 2, #3432, the background context for this Quranic verse is given. It relates to the events at Autus, and it permitted the Muslim men to have sex with their female slaves.







FROM THE QURAN - 33:50

"Prophet, We have made lawful to you the wives whom you have granted dowries and the slave girls whom God has given you as booty;..."





This verse is for Muhammad. Supposedly, God allows Muhammad to have sex with his slave girls.





These verses establish that it was permissible for Muslim men to have sex with female slaves.

1400 yrs ago. Life is different fm now. Marrying young girls are common. Anyway show me a verse fm the Quran tat God encourage marrying young girls?

 

[whoami]

All religions today have moved forwards except Islam.

Nothing to do with Islam. Is the Muslims themselves.

 

[whoami]

George Bush is not a Pope, Pastor, Priest, IMAM, Monk, Bomoh or religion leader. The meaning is artinya pemimpin agama. In 2020, only the religion leaders of Islam IMAMS) still preach hate and teach kids to hate jews, christians and infidels.

Bush even more powerful than pope, pastor,pries, imam monk bomoh religious leader. Most powerful man in the world, no? So as a xtian leader his final word is his command. Attackand invade Iraq,

Again nothing to do with islam. Some verses may sound violent was cos during the prophet's time. War era. Hypocrites and enemies of Islam were plentiful. Either u kill ur enemies or u be killed. Simple as tat

 

[duluxe]

Nothing to do with Islam. Is the Muslims themselves.

The problems not with the common muslims as i see, I have many m&d friends. Many years ago in my work place, one ah beng m&d cheated me of money. The rest of the m&ds in my office helped me to demand back my money from this malay idiot. The problem is with imams, free scholarships and wahhabism. If you have chance to attend any mosque serman in Jarkata, it is all full of hate speeches.

 

[duluxe]

Its common. So killing and raping as mentioned in the bible is ok?

Its not return or a gift. Its day light robbery as far as Palestine is concerned. Even the Orthodox Jews considered occupation of present "Israel" is illegal.

What do you mean by daylight robbery? What wrong with the Jews reclaiming their ah gong's land?

Maybe, it could have been done better as the descendants of the arabs who migrated over have lived in the land for many centuries. Land allocation and re distribution could have been settled differently, For future generations of both side, moving forwards should be PEACE! A few arab countries already for peace.

 

[cinababi]

The problems not with the common muslims as i see, I have many m&ds friends. Many years ago in my work place, one ah beng m&d cheated me of money. The rest of the m&ds in my office helped me to demand back my money from this malay idiot. The problem is with imams, free scholarships and wahhabism. If you have chance to attend any mosque serman in Jarkata, it is all full of hate speeches.

The imams in Jakarta don't represent the entire 1.8 billion+ Islamic population in the world. So your argument falls flat on it face. If they cared so much about representing the entire Islamic population, they would have sent troops to counter Israel during the Yom Kippur war. They are more interested in keeping their internals in tact.

 

[cinababi]

Europeans will get more benefit than problems from the syruan refugees. They are hard working people.

I think they already are getting more benefits. That's why they allow them in. else who would bother?

 

[duluxe]

The imams in Jakarta don't represent the entire 1.8 billion+ Islamic population in the world. So your argument falls flat on it face. If they cared so much about representing the entire Islamic population, they would have sent troops to counter Israel during the Yom Kippur war. They are more interested in keeping their internals in tact.

IMAMS from other muslim major countries even more violence and intolerance in their speeches, Middle East, Europe, US, Canada, Australia, Pakistan, India, Afghanistan, Nigeria, Sudan....

 

[cinababi]

IMAMS from other muslim major countries even more violence and intolerance in their speeches, Middle East, Europe, US, Canada, Australia, Pakistan, India, Afghanistan, Nigeria, Sudan....

Once again, no evidence = no weight man.

 

[duluxe]

Once again, no evidence = no weight man.

You dig out my past posts on hate speeches by imams even those living in first world european countries and canada are filled with hate not peace.

 

[cinababi]

You dig out my past posts on hate speeches by imams even those living in first world european countries and canada are filled with hate not peace.

You call those evidence? Pfft

 

[whoami]

The problems not with the common muslims as i see, I have many m&d friends. Many years ago in my work place, one ah beng m&d cheated me of money. The rest of the m&ds in my office helped me to demand back my money from this malay idiot. The problem is with imams, free scholarships and wahhabism. If you have chance to attend any mosque serman in Jarkata, it is all full of hate speeches.

Plse lah. Grow up lah. Even my 10 yr old nephew doesnt talk like u. Just cos one Malay cheated u money, u generalise all Malays. I also been cheated by Ah neh and Ah beng. How? Do i condemn all of them? Just open ur eyes before lending money lah. I always mentioned Islam is worldwide popu almost 2 billion. Not easy to have all heads agree on certain dos and donts. Yes, i am well aware. Some foreign mosques do have sermons on hate speech. I am not surprise. Look at how DAP behave towards the Malays. And mind u DAP majority are xtians. So rest is history.