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PAPsmearer Exclusive: The SAF standard issue rifle and the corruption that is the S’pore Defence Industrial complex

You don't mean, by any chance, that stinkies are behkan, do you?

Stinkies, whether govt or privately owned, have not produced a single multinational tech company that can compete at the world stage.

There is a good reason for that, of course.

Inferior chink and ah neh genes, culture, PAP dictatorship, 154th media, compliant judiciary, bureaucracy etc all at work.

Soundblaster was world class lah
 
sg kena owned by canada in this nation wars sc2 tournament. even with psy blades, psy storms, and all other psy weapons cannot fight the bio-hazardous zerg claw and corrosive bile onslaught.


Canada players, I am going to guess, are high SES chinese kids or descendants of high SES chinese immigrants. Low SES sinkies how to fight them. Canadians did not win. Canadian imported Asian FT won this.
 
time for st to start copying the c-14 "impaler" gauss rifle at the 6.9th mass replacement of saf rifles. can kill both zerg and protoss aliens. saf will achieve the 69th mass replacement of rifles in record time, fastest and most frequent than any military in the universe. it will continue to replace rifles well into the year 2069 while other cuntries and planets have already started using laser and particle beam weaponry. must sell more rifles and bullets to keep st going mah. otherwise where got jobs for scholars?
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The only thing ST can develop on its own as standard issue for Sinkies SAF NS slaves is this:

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And now the Italian Beretta M9 has been replaced by the German Sig Sauer M17.

Yeah, that is what I am saying. the most experienced army in the world will use the best weapons available in the world and not restrict itself to only home made designed products. But a wayang army like the SAF will.
 
Steady lah bro..... yr hope is answered in this OrLumPic war games testing military gears and weapons.... this is a good one...




So, once again, ST is in the works to develop a replacement standard rifle for the SAF. Apparently, after 20 years of operation, the SAF has figured out the SAR-21 is a piece of shit and now ST is tasked with developing a new rifle for them. This rifle is also a bullpup design but with all the flaws of the SAR-21 fixed. In other words, it will have a picatinny rail on which you can mount scopes, lasers, etc. As well, you can attached a standard grenade launcher to it. The name for this new piece of shit is called the BR 18.

Since the early 70s, the SAF, an army with zero combat experience has gone through 6 different standard rifles. They started with the AR-15, then a Sterling developed SAR-80, followed by the SR88, then the M-16S1 under license, the SAR-21, and now the BR-18. By contrast, combat experienced and professional armies in the world have used just……………… wait for it…………….. ONE standard rifle during this same period.

The US Army have always used the M-16 and now, its shorter version the M4. The Russians and Chinese have and are still using the AK-47. The British Army have used the L85 Bullpup since 1985 as their standard issue, and the French Army have used the FAMAS since 1978. You get the picture.

Why is such a piss ant small country going through so many different standard issue rifles, like a Chinese prostitute goes through Johns? This is the most wasteful use of money, and a total waste of engineering resources. By centering the same standard issue rifle for 4 decades or more, these countries mentioned above have saved a lot of money. Every time Singapore decides to switch standard rifle and develop a new one, there is huge R & D, and capital investment in a new production line to built them. The countries mentioned above have manufactured millions of M-16, AK-47, and over 500,000 each of L85 and FAMAS. Therefore, the R & D they spend is depreciated over many units, and the production plant they build is essentially the same one.

ST and Singapore cannot make rifles in this quantity, therefore, their R & D cost per unit is high and the constant retooling to make new models forces the per unit price to be consistently high. So, why continue to do this? If the M-16 and its variants are good enough for the US Army, why was it not good enough for Singapore?

The answer is that putting the best possible rifle in the hands of the Singapore soldier is OF SECONDARY IMPORTANCE. The most important factor for MINDEAF and the PAP govt. is to continue to make profits for the GLC known as ST, and to keep SAF Scholar Generals present and ex, employed in the SAF, MINDEAF, and ST developing such shit. The SAF does not need the BR18, nor did it need the SAR-21. It would have been more then happy to stick with the AR-15 or even M-16 right till today if given a choice. If the BR-18 program was removed from ST, and the SAF were to stick with the SAR-21, many people in MINDEAF, ST, and the SAF will lose their jobs. You better believe that ST is charging the SAF through the nose for the BR18. ST cannot lose money on this. They will tag on the R & D, plus start up production and manufacturing to the price of a new BR18, add a hefty profit for themselves, and force the SAF to buy it. Most armies in the world will carry out a competition if they want to replace their standard rifle, and major arms makers will enter the competition with their products. The best weapon system and the best price will win the competition and be the standard rifle. But in the case of Singapore, the next standard rifle replacement contest is a one horse race, and no other competitors are invited to bid on it. Like the SAR-21, you don't know what the shortcomings of the BR18 are because it was not matched up against other competitor's products. Funny why the Accountant General and the Oppo parties never bring up this little point. MINDEAF is deliberately given the biggest budget annually of all the Ministries, so they can spend it on useless shit like this and keep PAP cronies feeding at the public trough.

The sooner the taxpayer realizes this, the better it will be for the country. Feel free to share this article.
 
So why ministry of defense never call for tender? Sound like behaving inappropriately like some town council huh! Next Parliament no chans loh. The last domino shall fall. Loong ascends to MM after achieving highest party support since independence, may be beat Hun Sen too! :cool:

Bingo, you have hit it on the nail. All the major SAF weapon systems purchased have never been tendered. Don't get me started on that. SAR-21 was not tendered, there should have been a tender to replace the M-16S1. Same for Bionix, should have had a tender to replace the M113. Same for Terrex, Hunter, Leopard 2 tanks, etc.

The reason for no tender is so the pricing can be kept secret. If there was tender for this SAR-21 replacement, many companies will bid from around the world. The pricing for each individual weapon, and for a package including support, spares, training, etc. will all be made known publicly. ST will never win it. They are just not competitive enough. If they match or undercut the competition in the bid, they will lose serious money, and then have to answer to Aunty Ho in Stomachsick, the major shareholder. This way everything is secret, ST make money, Aunty Ho happy. The only 2 unhappy person is the SAF, and the taxpayer. One of them is totally ignorant about it. Wayang Party should have questioned this. If they ask this question, bargain hen will call them unpatriotic and say the price is a state secret like Ho Jinx salary.

P.S. This the same reason why the SAR-21 and incoming BR18 are never sold commercially. They would have had to price it to make money, hence revealing the true cost they charge to the SAF. Their breakeven per rifle could be $7500-$10000. The SAF can buy an Colt Industries M4 for $3000.
 
Soundblaster was world class lah

what a joke

it's a simple audio card.

replaced since then

these don't even last two decades

did he earn $20 billion at his peak?

no?

thought so.

your typical airlines can easily rake in $10 to $20 billion in revenue a year

temasek revenue above S$100 billion

and u talked about soundblaster.

geez.

really a bodoh.
 
Canada players, I am going to guess, are high SES chinese kids or descendants of high SES chinese immigrants. Low SES sinkies how to fight them. Canadians did not win. Canadian imported Asian FT won this.
one of them, in fact their best sc2 player, is "scarlett" (real name sasha hostyn). she won the 1st game against sg in this matchup. angmoh is still da best!
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Yeah, revenge for the stealing of the Terrex. Still got a lot of SAR 80 in reserve armskotes, can sell to them.

they can be easily traced to stinkiepore

then tiongs will take revenge

and ah loong will kneel and beg for mercy again

will tiongs be so merciful? think not
 
You don't mean, by any chance, that stinkies are behkan, do you?

Stinkies, whether govt or privately owned, have not produced a single multinational tech company that can compete at the world stage.

There is a good reason for that, of course.

Inferior chink and ah neh genes, culture, PAP dictatorship, 154th media, compliant judiciary, bureaucracy etc all at work.
U loyal to familee, familee take care of u! Why risk a sure thing for some unknown reward? Sometime even get makan by rival minions? :eek:
 
The bottom line is SAF and conscription is no longer about defending the Nation but to ensure the civil service elites have an iron rice bowl. If not how come dwfen budget keep going up as compared to other departments? I am just surprised till date there is no outrage about abolishment of conscription. Guess singkies are one of a kind
 
What nonsense are all these? I trust the PAP government and MINDEF completely for their transparency because they have build in "ownself-check-ownself", self-check, self-audit, self-criticise policy and its fool-proof I am telling you.

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I have fired the SAR21 once during reservist, at the indoor range complex located inside Pasir Labia Camp. I spotted a few ah lians and minahs working there as civilian staff.

Access gantries on the ground floor similar to MRT stations or some office buildings. There's a viewing gallery directly behind the firing range, which also serves as a waiting room for the next detail of shooters.
 
The bottom line is SAF and conscription is no longer about defending the Nation but to ensure the civil service elites have an iron rice bowl. If not how come dwfen budget keep going up as compared to other departments? I am just surprised till date there is no outrage about abolishment of conscription. Guess singkies are one of a kind

Conscription is part and parcel of, in fact, the key ingredient which allows them to keep the lucrative racket going.

They won't do away with it, or even reduce its scope. A lot of contractors, both GLCs and private sector, depend on it to survive.
 
Sar21 is an awkward design. Don't really see what advantage an integrated LAD brings . They should adopted picatinny rails instead.

Now the handful of countries that are using bullpup are switching back to Standard rifles. Malaysia , France and now China.

To talk about LAD, heard it cost 900+ to buy a new piece but SAF prefer to send it to ST for recon at 700+ a piece.
 
How long has ST been building weapons? 30 years? Isnt it time they show some results. Building real weapons to be sold overseas.

And if they cant perform, then ST should stop wasting time n money on trying to be a weapons builders.
 
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