Outsize by how much? 2x, 3x, 4x? Would outsizing by 1.5x be enough oready?
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Our military expenditure almost equal to Malaysia's & Indonesia's combined!
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Outsize by how much? 2x, 3x, 4x? Would outsizing by 1.5x be enough oready?
Well said, bro!
How I know? I'm not the Defence Minister or a General.
If you can't trust them to decide on the correct ratio, vote against them. But always remember, there'll be others voting for them. In a democracy, the majority wins.
Normally in a proper society, best paid means better quality. But of course in your sinkieland, it happens with a selfish motive. Thailand has better human character then sinkies and of course that is quality in itself.
Don't imagine that Singapore is within striking range of Malaysia or Indonesia only. Thailand is the only SEA navy to have an aircraft carrier, i.e. entire SEA under Thai strike range. There's one only and unlikely to be able sustain long term attack, but the ability to cause quick damage to facilitate more attacks by other means is there.
How I know? I'm not the Defence Minister or a General.
If you can't trust them to decide on the correct ratio, vote against them. But always remember, there'll be others voting for them. In a democracy, the majority wins.
Aiyah... u think those who vote for them is because of their great leadership or generalship? A lot of sinkies vote for PAP because of goodies dangle infront of them too...
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/thailand/chakri-naruebet.htm
The major addition to the Royal Thai Fleet is the Chakri Naruebet (which means "The Great of the Chakri Dynasty"), built by Bazan-Ferrol of Spain, and delivered to the RTN in 1997, which included seven AV-8S and two TAV-8S Matador (Harrier) STOL attack aircraft and six newly-built S-70B-7 Seahawk multi-mission helicopters. Because of the ships capabilities and size it the most auspicious ship of the Royal Thai Navy. But the lack of funding has restricted its operations and as a result, it was not deployed to support the UN mission in East Timor. This Offshore Patrol Helicopter Carrier (OHPC) intends to undertake a wide range of missions such as disaster relief, environment protection, amphibious operations, patrolling of territorial waters and control of local air space, Search And Rescue coordination and Exclusive Economic Zone surveillance. Secondary role is air support for all maritime operations.
In my personal opinion.
Where do you think ST gets its $$ from? I doubt if their enterprises are that profitable. Chartered semi is a money pit. The armament divison is hopeless. How to compete with the Chinese who can fund their R&D with actual PLA purchases and after R&D is paid off they sell overseas. I doubt if our Bionax and self propelled howitzer are that popular if it were not for soft loans that goes with these sales.
Which GLC is the most influencial?
All we need is a good deterrence.
At the first sign of serious conflict, our FT will leave and billions from the financial industry will be wired out. And Singapore standard of living will collapse and may never recover as the country is now deemed as risky. So no need to try and arm ourselves to win 3 wars. Malaysia, a third world nation will continue to remain a 3rd world nation with a smaller impact to its economy. It just continues to export palm oil, rubber, timber etc etc etc.
Instead of spending so much effort in China trying to buy guanxi (Chinese officials cannot be bothered with Singapore, especially Singapore trying to tell them what to do) we should try and work with our neighbors.
In many 3rd world nation, to remain in political power you need backing of military. Heck some of the politicians ARE from the military (see Indonesia). So a generous ST is useful.
Where do you think ST gets its $$ from? I doubt if their enterprises are that profitable. Chartered semi is a money pit. The armament divison is hopeless. How to compete with the Chinese who can fund their R&D with actual PLA purchases and after R&D is paid off they sell overseas. I doubt if our Bionax and self propelled howitzer are that popular if it were not for soft loans that goes with these sales.
Which GLC is the most influencial?
All we need is a good deterrence.
At the first sign of serious conflict, our FT will leave and billions from the financial industry will be wired out. And Singapore standard of living will collapse and may never recover as the country is now deemed as risky. So no need to try and arm ourselves to win 3 wars. Malaysia, a third world nation will continue to remain a 3rd world nation with a smaller impact to its economy. It just continues to export palm oil, rubber, timber etc etc etc.
Instead of spending so much effort in China trying to buy guanxi (Chinese officials cannot be bothered with Singapore, especially Singapore trying to tell them what to do) we should try and work with our neighbors.
In many 3rd world nation, to remain in political power you need backing of military. Heck some of the politicians ARE from the military (see Indonesia). So a generous ST is useful.
A nation that continues year after year to spend more money on military defense than on programs of social uplift is approaching spiritual death.
- Martin Luther King, Jr., 1967.
A nation that continues year after year to spend more money on wrong military programs is approaching brain death.
Singapore's pre-emptive strike military strategy is well known to all SEA neighbours. However, only Malaysia and Indonesia are within practical strike range. The next logical step is of course to expand the navy and acquire an aircraft carrier to place the entire SEA under strike range. However, Singapore has refrained from doing that, cause it would be alarm-raising for other SEA nations.
Singapore's pre-emptive strike military strategy is well known to all SEA neighbours. However, only Malaysia and Indonesia are within practical strike range. The next logical step is of course to expand the navy and acquire an aircraft carrier to place the entire SEA under strike range. However, Singapore has refrained from doing that, cause it would be alarm-raising for other SEA nations.
Singapore did not increase its defends spending, 5% of GDP since independence. It seems large due to increase in GDP some $11b for 2008.
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Past history have proven that foreign power will not be available in total world conflict, World war 2, Singapore fall within 3 days & 3 years of nightmare for the population. Seok Chin massacre @ 60,00 innocent victims murdered.
That is the price to pay of not being prepared. The Jap came down thru Thailand in which the Thai allow the Jan to pass thru without any conflict, Malaya in 1 week with little resistance. The rest is history.Singapore defense concept in the early years was towards deterrence from neighbors and as a form of nation building. In the later years the threat was from afar like Indian continent, Chinese threat & etc. Asians countries were not in the position to deter any conflict. With the raise for Singapore economy, the defense budget correspondingly increases which enable the small island nation to take on a bigger role quietly. As the sheriff of South East Asia to contain the bigger threat as regional power of today. "Diplomacy with a big stick."
We should open our mind for a bigger picture not confine to neighboring small petty quarrels. Asean should grow up, but impossible.
If our people are fully employed, our elderlies are fully looked after, our healthcare is totally take care of.... sure, with the spare cash left, we can afford to be "the sheriff of South East Asia"...
But as it is, PAP is so afraid that they will be stuck with elderly care that they are now going to enact laws to allow for 3rd party (ie, Govt) to sue Singaporeans on behalf of their parents if they do not take care of the parents....
Next time when you goto the shopping mall, food court etc and you see our elderlies still working in their 70s-80s, ask them why they are still working and most will tell u they need the money (minority few will say they are bored at home and wanting to work to keep themselves fit and alert - these are the ones being used by PAP for propaganda). Anyway, ask them further why didn't they ask their children for money instead, most will tell u that they just dont have the heart to ask money from their children cause they know that their own children are also struggling themselves with their family.
Sure, u see our GDP increasing, but do u know that our Gini index (rich-poor divide) is also increasing? So much so that it's the worst among the 1st world nations on Earth?
GDP doesn't tell us a lot about the state of affair of Singaporeans these days... we have regressed in the last few years.... Anyway, back to your gung ho view of making Singapore the "Sheriff of SEA", I say make sure our own people are well taken care first...
You are not serious are you? What bigger threat are you talking about? We do not face the same level of threat as the Isrealis. We don't even have resources let alone sustainable ones. Who are the others other than the Indonesians and Malaysians are you talking about.
Who are you talking about - China, India, Korea, Japan - what are they going to do in Singapore after capturing it - use the MRT.
You obviously have no clue about geopolitics or even politics of the region let alone long opening your "mind for bigger picture."
Who are you talking about - China, India, Korea, Japan - what are they going to do in Singapore after capturing it - use the MRT.
You obviously have no clue about geopolitics or even politics of the region let alone long opening your "mind for bigger picture."
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