ns slave torture untill spit out blood

[wusangui]

The fact remains. This fit kid die due to doing a fitness routine and not in war.

If the generals of other countries come to know about it. What impression will that leave them?

This responsibility is for to the medical and management staff of the army to bear, and not the innocent soldier.

there is no doubt certain MO and medic had the impression that you are trying to keng even before you sit down.something is very wrong if they refuse to stay professional and neutral.

 

[madmansg]

There won't be suddenly no defence.

1. The air force is manned by regulars about 100%. No problem there.
2. The navy is manned by regulars about 80%. No problem there.
3. The army is manned by regulars about 20%. Work on that.
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u are very sensible reply. sometimes I cannot be bother to debate with air heads with no vision.

 

[silverfox@]

There won't be suddenly no defence.

1. The air force is manned by regulars about 100%. No problem there.
2. The navy is manned by regulars about 80%. No problem there.
3. The army is manned by regulars about 20%. Work on that.

100%, 80%, 20% is a percentage. Percentages don't seem too far and seems easily work around.

But, But

What is the difference between 80% of 5000 people and 20% of 20,000 people?

Shortfall in numbers cannot be determined by percentages but by the numbers.

 

[twochan]

So long as you pay people high enough, they will do the job.

Ministar job who don't want to to? So salary can be lower than normal.
Shit NS job who want to do? So salary must be much higher than normal.

Simple supply and demand, PAP cannot understand. How can they manage the economy like that?

100%, 80%, 20% is a percentage. Percentages don't seem too far and seems easily work around.

But, But

What is the difference between 80% of 5000 people and 20% of 20,000 people?

Shortfall in numbers cannot be determined by percentages but by the numbers.

 

[chinkangkor]

Don't you think that NS is a good platform for social cohesion ? Well I know a lot of good and true friends in the army. I must say I have a good time in NS. Well I guess some of you all have as well.

Nowadays NS is very relax le ... do you know I know of some SGT in Tekong got throw into DB for ill-treatment of their recruits? With such harsh punishment who dare to ill-treat anyone...

Why should one group sacrifice to benefit all and sundry but be marginalised later on in their careers for having to do ICT every year.

 

[silverfox@]

So long as you pay people high enough, they will do the job.

Ministar job who don't want to to? So salary can be lower than normal.
Shit NS job who want to do? So salary must be much higher than normal.

Simple supply and demand, PAP cannot understand. How can they manage the economy like that?

Your definition of paying people high salaries seems reasonable and logical.

Let's say $300 for a NSF and $3000 for a regular. 10 for the salary of 1. But the sad thing is $4000 you also wouldn't sign up as a regular.

Road sweepers, everyone is shunning this job. Don't say you, I also don't want to do. Give me $4000 a month I also don't want.

Talk about baby bonus, you give more bonus but does people want to give birth to more babies? It's easy to say from our mouths, pay more money and numbers will be satisfied. But is it really feasible.

When I was serving my NS, I did think its a waste of precious years where peers could go for higher education. Even after I ORD, I still feel the same. But when I think about, I don't do, you don't do, everyone don't do. How?

 

[Ah Guan]

until halfway the cough was so bad that i spit out some blood den i can fall out. i am just lucky that i didn't die.

I suspect you also coughed out some of your brain that fateful day.

It must have transformed you like how the radioactive spider bite turned Peter Parker in to Spiderman....

That was the day madmansg was born.

 

[Ah Guan]

We all survive NS didn't we?????

I survived and am now living 2.5 years behind my foreign peers. I have to be called up every year to defend these foreigners who will, in turn, happily pounce on my livelihood.

I survived NS but no one prepared me for the truth.

 

[eeoror88]

I survived and am now living 2.5 years behind my foreign peers. I have to be called up every year to defend these foreigners who will, in turn, happily pounce on my livelihood.

I survived NS but no one prepared me for the truth.

The Truth ?? You want the Truth?? Can you hanle the Truth ??

 

[Frankiestine]

Spit out blood still alright, if spit out sperm, then somthing is really wrong

I know many Prc meis who spits out sperm...

 

[eeoror88]

I know many Prc meis who spits out sperm...

Yes, they spit at your face !!

 

[eeoror88]

I suspect you also coughed out some of your brain that fateful day.

It must have transformed you like how the radioactive spider bite turned Peter Parker in to Spiderman....

That was the day madmansg was born.

....and madmansg was brought up by the spiders. That's why the phrase "Fuck Spider" was coined ...

 

[twochan]

There are so many true-blue singaporeans who earn less than $3000 pm, and they work their hearts out for it. I know so many who would grab the chance.

Are you a well to do student, one of those so called elites like Wee Shu Min?

Get the $300 out of your mind. You pay $3000 for a pte yes. That's how the USA does it.

Singapore spends more per soldier than the USA. (and they're fighting war in Iraq + Afghanistan). Where does all the money go? paying scholars?

Your definition of paying people high salaries seems reasonable and logical.

Let's say $300 for a NSF and $3000 for a regular. 10 for the salary of 1. But the sad thing is $4000 you also wouldn't sign up as a regular.

Road sweepers, everyone is shunning this job. Don't say you, I also don't want to do. Give me $4000 a month I also don't want.

Talk about baby bonus, you give more bonus but does people want to give birth to more babies? It's easy to say from our mouths, pay more money and numbers will be satisfied. But is it really feasible.

When I was serving my NS, I did think its a waste of precious years where peers could go for higher education. Even after I ORD, I still feel the same. But when I think about, I don't do, you don't do, everyone don't do. How?

 

[silverfox@]

There are so many true-blue singaporeans who earn less than $3000 pm, and they work their hearts out for it. I know so many who would grab the chance.

Are you a well to do student, one of those so called elites like Wee Shu Min?

Get the $300 out of your mind. You pay $3000 for a pte yes. That's how the USA does it.

Singapore spends more per soldier than the USA. (and they're fighting war in Iraq + Afghanistan). Where does all the money go? paying scholars?

The question is for $3000, will you sign up then? I know I wouldn't want to be a soldier even if I am paid $5000 for a start.

Are you trying to say if you are paid more, you are supposed to fight more wars in more countries?

 

[jw5]

We all survive NS didn't we?????

Sure.
NS in itself is a good concept, especially for a small nation with a very small regular military force.
It is the attitude and behaviour of some of the people in the military and managing the military that is the problem.

 

[silverfox@]

Sure.
NS in itself is a good concept, especially for a small nation with a very small regular military force.
It is the attitude and behaviour of some of the people in the military and managing the military that is the problem.

Actually the attitude and behaviour is in every military everywhere in this world. Just that we don't encounter them. It's a human behaviour that happens

I can only say Singapore without NS, would have been eaten up by other countries ages ago.:o

 

[jw5]

Actually the attitude and behaviour is in every military everywhere in this world. Just that we don't encounter them. It's a human behaviour that happens

I can only say Singapore without NS, would have been eaten up by other countries ages ago.:o

Yes, absolutely. Humans are humans, whatever nationality and race.
But in many other countries, the citizens will be in an uproar over any mishap or mishandling of cases during peace time. Our citizens are extremely timid, to say the least.

 

[Ramseth]

I can only say Singapore without NS, would have been eaten up by other countries ages ago.:o

"Eaten up" by which country? Even if Singapore has only the current air force and navy (almost all regulars), only 6 countries in the world have a realistic military chance of successfully invading and landing on Singapore. Malaysia, Indonesia, USA, UK, France and Russia. Which do you have in mind?

 

[eeoror88]

"Eaten up" by which country? Even if Singapore has only the current air force and navy (almost all regulars), only 6 countries in the world have a realistic military chance of successfully invading and landing on Singapore. Malaysia, Indonesia, USA, UK, France and Russia. Which do you have in mind?

Most probably eaten up by Batam Island !!

 

[kchunjeng]

This was my true life experience during my NS time in the early 80's

During BMT, My lower both legs was so pain that I have to eudure the running, jumping(obstical course) and marching and so on. I have seek medical consultation from TCM that is my nerve system that causes it but no MC from TCM was regonize, thus I have to endure thru.


UNtil 30 years today, I have found out from the reputable TCM that I have flat foot !! OMG, luckily I survive !

One more occasion, that I want to the medical center to report sick at 4.00 pm due to skin itch, and the doctor just gave me a jab, after couple of minutes, Doc told me I can go, and know what, I walked for couple of steps, and just knock off and fall to the ground. until my parent found that I was not back home, and start to look for me, and realize I was in one of the bed in the medical center, with no one know who I am and no one inform my parent too. what happen if I died ?

Till today, in my bottom of my heart, do you know how I feel about this. If I will be given a chance, I will leave this shit place.