My Friend Jocelyn

[Fook Seng]

some gals find innocent guys loving and attractive

Many forummers including bro blur sotong are happy to know that. Perhaps bro blur can have another go with " first prize" girlfriend?

 

[TracyTan866]

And then you mentioned Constance who looked like Jocelyn and Zhihau wanted to find out more.

ohhh...yes, Constance looks like Jocelyn. Jocelyn is now in Perth awaiting the arrival of her baby. She said that she will apply a passport for the baby and return hom in Jan 2013

 

[TracyTan866]

Many forummers including bro blur sotong are happy to know that. Perhaps bro blur can have another go with " first prize" girlfriend?

hahahaha...nvm squander an opportunity. but even then, no harm giving it a second go

 

[Fook Seng]

I think having a pretty wife is a blessing. men should not choose to have an ugly wife ..otherwise it is self fulfilling...

It is not blessing to have sleepless nights. Also somehow a pretty wife gradually seems less pretty. Don't know why.

 

[TracyTan866]

It is not blessing to have sleepless nights. Also somehow a pretty wife gradually seems less pretty. Don't know why.

a man needs to learn to enjoy and appreciate his pretty wife...outward beauty will not last forever. But if the wife goes out to satisfy her hubby, she will age gracefully and elegantly for him. she will develop an inner beauty and love for him which money cant buy. an inwardly beautiful wife who is elegant , graceful and loving is a treasure to behold

 

[TracyTan866]

It is not blessing to have sleepless nights. Also somehow a pretty wife gradually seems less pretty. Don't know why.

if a man has a loving wife, he sleeps peacefully and comfortably

 

[TracyTan866]

It is not blessing to have sleepless nights. Also somehow a pretty wife gradually seems less pretty. Don't know why.

it's true that physical beauty is important to keep a couple together initially..but their relationship must grow from attraction to true love for eah other. Love, not physical beauty, is the key ingredient that binds a marriage

 

[Fook Seng]

Read my thread on "Why Have Children in SG?"..some singaporeans are choosing not to have children

I ascribe all our societal problems with people who choose not to have children. All the ills of our society are a direct result of this misguided concept based on pure imagination. Listen to those people who have made their homes in Australia. My take is they feel lonely and they want more people to join them. The Govt's part in this is that it is not able to overcome this setback. People who choose not to have children give the Govt the excuse for doing badly.

But sooner or later your childless friends will get to realize that they have made a wrong turning in life. I hope they will realize it earlier rather than later because with regard to childbirth, there are certain things not determined by you.

For your information, I have grown up children and we have not experienced all the problems you four ladies have imagined (no stressed out kids with non-stop tuition after school - he, being the perfectionist that he is, the Old Man's kids and grand-kids probably had more tuition than mine) and they still reserve the right to move wherever they want, whenever they want and if they want at all. People who are brought up in Australia might find it difficult to move here, not because of lifestyle but because of the competition. Let's say it is a one-way street decision.

Australia is a bad place to bring up kids - kids that can conquer the world. Australia is resting on its large commodity reserves and as a place where white people might find it a good alternative to move on to when things at home get a bit too hot. That is just my personal opinion. Let us see how the slow down in world economy will shape up in the next couple of years.

 

[TracyTan866]

You may be right. Although I love children, I can see my friends' point of view. Until the country recognises that children are an asset and come out with truly family friendly policies, people like my friends will continue to reinforce each other's beliefs. SG will be the real loser if nothing is done

 

[Fook Seng]

y be right. Although I love children, I can see my friends' point of view. Until the country recognises that children are an asset and come out with truly family friendly policies, people like my friends will continue to reinforce each other's beliefs. SG will be the real loser if nothing is done

Do something with the Govt. That's what I can say.

 

[TracyTan866]

Do something with the Govt. That's what I can say.

I am doing my part. what else can we do as Singaporeans who love Singapore?

 

[Fook Seng]

ohhh...yes, Constance looks like Jocelyn. Jocelyn is now in Perth awaiting the arrival of her baby. She said that she will apply a passport for the baby and return hom in Jan 2013

So many people are having high hopes of the Singapore Govt endorsing dual citizenship.

These people argue from the standpoint of what benefits it can give to themselves who desire dual citizenship, basically to have the cake and eat it. The majority of people cannot and will not want to take advantage of this.

The Govt would have to balance the interest of these two groups of people. I have my personal take on this what the govt might do but in case the govt did not endorse dual citizenship and Jocelyn decided to stay put in Singapore, you know a child born outside will not qualify as citizen under the condition of country of birth.

He will be forced to choose between keeping the Australian passport or becoming a Singapore citizen and you never know what would be the regulations then regarding new citizenship. Maybe Dr Chee would be in the new Govt. Maybe his new govt could be more draconic but definitely more socialist in nature.

 

[TracyTan866]

So many people are having high hopes of the Singapore Govt endorsing dual citizenship.

These people argue from the standpoint of what benefits it can give to themselves who desire dual citizenship, basically to have the cake and eat it. The majority of people cannot and will not want to take advantage of this.

The Govt would have to balance the interest of these two groups of people. I have my personal take on this what the govt might do but in case the govt did not endorse dual citizenship and Jocelyn decided to stay put in Singapore, you know a child born outside will not qualify as citizen under the condition of country of birth.

He will be forced to choose between keeping the Australian passport or becoming a Singapore citizen and you never know what would be the regulations then regarding new citizenship. Maybe Dr Chee would be in the new Govt. Maybe his new govt could be more draconic but definitely more socialist in nature.

Jocelyn is quite certain she wants to give her child the option to choose. Our decision shd be made premised on present situation. For now, I think the decision is very easy shd a young person be asked to choose between SG and Australia

 

[TracyTan866]

For your information, I have grown up children and we have not experienced all the problems you four ladies have imagined (no stressed out kids with non-stop tuition after school -

SG now is very different from SG 20years ago. what your children experienced is totally different from what a SG child experiences today. Look at the congestion, look at the education stresses, look at the straining of SG's infrasturcture. look at HDB prices, look at the way the govt and business exploit labour and profiteer at the workers' expense. SG is very different from your time

 

[Fook Seng]

if a man has a loving wife, he sleeps peacefully and comfortably

Actually the sleepless night is not a man problem. It is a woman problem. Can a pretty woman resist the temptation of going astray when she is subject to so much praise, sweet words especially now that Singapore is such a cosmopolitan place with people of many creeds, some whom are experts in making women feel very happy. Even our younger locals are learning how to do that.

So to the hubby, if his wife is too pampering, he can have even more sleepless nights. Therefore get a wife who is less likely to invite these advances.

 

[TracyTan866]

Actually the sleepless night is not a man problem. It is a woman problem. Can a pretty woman resist the temptation of going astray when she is subject to so much praise, sweet words especially now that Singapore is just a cosmopolitan place with people of many creeds, some whom are experts in making women feel very happy. Even our younger locals are learning how to do that.

Yes, possibly, some may be flattered by the attention. again, she will not stray if she truly love her hubby. if she ever stray, it is due to her weakness ..i dont blame the men nor the flattery that swayed her

 

[TracyTan866]

So to the hubby, if his wife is too pampering, he can have even more sleepless nights. Therefore get a wife who is less likely to invite these advances.

if I were a man, i wld not go for a less desirable wife just because i am insecure. i wld remain secure and enjoy my beautiful wife if i know my marriage is anchored on love and not flattery

 

[Fook Seng]

Yes, possibly, some may be flattered by the attention. again, she will not stray if she truly love her hubby. if she ever stray, it is due to her weakness ..i dont blame the men nor the flattery that swayed her

A less pretty wife will not be put in such a difficult situation. I remember one forummer here (cannot remember who) shared similar sentiment in these threads.

 

[TracyTan866]

A less pretty wife will not be put in such a difficult situation. I remember one forummer here (cannot remember who) shared similar sentiment in these threads.

why wld any man go for a less pretty gal when he can get a more beautiful gal? the issue shd be what's the anchor of the relationship rather than the fear of her falling due to flattery.

 

[Fook Seng]

if I were a man, i wld not go for a less desirable wife just because i am insecure. i wld remain secure and enjoy my beautiful wife if i know my marriage is anchored on love and not flattery

These could be famous last words. I wonder what the husband of CS was thinking before and after the event.