Ms Lo Hwei Yen

[TracyTan866]

i don't need you to believe in me. all i need is that you start thinking for yourself and stop allowing your hubby to manipulate you into selling your body or using it as collateral for his gambling debts.

hahahaha. how i choose to run my life is my prerogative. but u need to get ur facts right before u want to be credible

 

[Devil Within]

You speak as if you understand the whole terrorism issue. You put the entire blame to nothing but Islam. Much as i hate to see women in tudung, you have entirely missed the point, your arguments are evasive and presumptious. You assume everything reported in the mainstream media is TRUTH, eg the Sept-11. You assume Islam ask Muslims to go around killing non-Muslims without understanding that everything in a religious book is a subject of interpretation.

The root of terrorism is obviously beyond the comprehension of your simple mind. Terrorists exist because there is a group who feel mistreated (which is true) they are frustrated because no one listens to them, it is beyond their powers to get heard or have any of their objectives fulfilled. The unfortunate mix of religion and abuse by some manipulators ==> Jihadists.

Terrorists kidnap to achieve an objective. They hold a bunch of hostage in a hotel, they lay out their demands. It is easy to say governments should not give in to demands of terrorists but supposing your mother or father or wife is a hostage, will you bark the same way you do now? Terrorists are aggrieved by politicians in developed countries notably USA, we the ordinary citizens are paying for their actions. I don't give a damn if the governments have to cough out 20 billion or release 500 prisoners, but ordinary citizens should not be bearing the consequences of blady politicians.

Btw... terrorists do monitor world political development through their favorite channel... not Channel 5 or 8 but the Al-Jazeera... they dont live under a rock like you think!

So you say it is ok with acts of terror just because they have some axe to grind with the someone?

So it's ok to take some other innocent people hostage and kill them just not your next of kins? LOL!...

Act of terrorism is to be condemned no matter who are the hostages or for whatever reason or purposes.

If whole society, condemn such acts and make no province of it no matter what cause it is for, then maybe these clowns will rethink about their action.

However, history has shown that if you are the victor, then whatever terrorist acts you employed previously, can be re-written as a fight for freedom. Even if innocent lives were taken.

Even the great Nelson Mandela took up terrorist acts in his early struggle against the Apartheid White gov of South Africa. But you don't hear much of these as he is now a celebrated freedom fighter.

Read below from Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelson_Mandela
"Later, mostly in the 1980s, MK waged a guerrilla war against the apartheid regime in which many civilians became casualties. Mandela later admitted that the ANC, in its struggle against apartheid, also violated human rights, sharply criticising those in his own party who attempted to remove statements supporting this fact from the reports of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission.
Up until July 2008, Mandela and ANC party members were barred from entering the United States — except the United Nations headquarters in Manhattan — without a special waiver from the US Secretary of State, because of their South African apartheid regime era designation as terrorists."

It is because of dumbfucks like you who kept quiet and giving them some false sense of righteousness in their actions which resulted in even more terrorist activities.

If the ALL majority of "peaceful" silent Muslims condemn such act as non-Islamic and in no way related to Islam, then maybe they fuck heads has no claim to be doing it for Islam.

However, the majority quiet Muslim can't do that as they know jolly well that such tactics are allowed and mentioned in the Koran. Hence, giving the manipulated few, reasons to call it their Jihad war against non-Muslims, and they will become heroes if and when they succeed in their struggles.

If the whole world view killing of innocent people (and non-Muslim for these fuck heads) in the same light as killing of their own parents, and to be condemned no matter what and even if they succeed in their cause, and if the whole world can view taking hostages of innocent people (and non-Muslim for these fuck heads) in the same light as taking hostage of their own parents, and to be condemned no matter what and even if they succeed in their cause, then maybe these fuck heads may think twice about doing such acts.

However, as we can see in this forum, there are still many people who think it is ok to take hostages, but not when it's their next-of-kin.

It is ok to condemn such act of terror, just not when it's their next-of-kin.

It is ok to employ acts of terror if you succeed in your fight.

Don't forget, the innocent victims may not be your next-of-kin, they are the next of kin of others. For such acts of terror to be discouraged, it has to be viewed and condemned in the same light as acts of terror against the perpetrators' parents, and there is no honour for such actions no matter what the causes are.

Just look at how the fuckhead filipinos made the hostage murderer cop a hero. I guarantee you that there will be another hostage taker cum murderer hero in the philippine. Cos these filipino fuckheads approved of such act of terror.

 

[Devil Within]

I see that you have realised how silly you sounded and have humbled yourself. No more the belligerent posture. That's a good start

How silly I sounded? Not as silly as you.

 

[rodent2005]

best approach to deal with terrorists and hostage takers is to accept the risk of collateral damage and be willing to sacrifice hostages by blasting them goddamn mudderfuggers away without negotiation and stalemate after saying "go ahead punk, make my day". unfortunately, many countries are politically inept to do that.

So did LHL send his decorated scholar generals to blast those terrorists after his bravado? The issue here is, if he cannot help matters and does not know what is happening, shut the fuck up.

 

[Devil Within]

My agenda is to let people know what lhl said during the hostage crisis and let them see how lhl could have caused Hwei Yen's death.

The more you try to defend lhl, the more dirt will surface.

You sure that you are not here to show what a bimbo you are?

I don't have to and I am not here to defend LHL. I am here to post my view about your stupid statement.

 

[TracyTan866]

How silly I sounded? Not as silly as you.

Silly when you said all hostages were killed by the terrorists

 

[Devil Within]

This is a blatant lie on your part! :oIo:

Care to show who are the survivor that was released not claiming to be a Muslim? And I am not talking about those who escape or hiding in the room from the terrorist in the Hotel. :oIo::oIo::oIo:

 

[TracyTan866]

So you say it is ok with acts of terror just because they have some axe to grind with the someone?

So it's ok to take some other innocent people hostage and kill them just not your next of kins? LOL!...

Act of terrorism is to be condemned no matter who are the hostages or for whatever reason or purposes.

If whole society, condemn such acts and make no province of it no matter what cause it is for, then maybe these clowns will rethink about their action.

However, history has shown that if you are the victor, then whatever terrorist acts you employed previously, can be re-written as a fight for freedom. Even if innocent lives were taken.

Even the great Nelson Mandela took up terrorist acts in his early struggle against the Apartheid White gov of South Africa. But you don't hear much of these as he is now a celebrated freedom fighter.

Read below from Wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelson_Mandela
"Later, mostly in the 1980s, MK waged a guerrilla war against the apartheid regime in which many civilians became casualties. Mandela later admitted that the ANC, in its struggle against apartheid, also violated human rights, sharply criticising those in his own party who attempted to remove statements supporting this fact from the reports of the Truth and Reconciliation Commission.
Up until July 2008, Mandela and ANC party members were barred from entering the United States — except the United Nations headquarters in Manhattan — without a special waiver from the US Secretary of State, because of their South African apartheid regime era designation as terrorists."

It is because of dumbfucks like you who kept quiet and giving them some false sense of righteousness in their actions which resulted in even more terrorist activities.

If the ALL majority of "peaceful" silent Muslims condemn such act as non-Islamic and in no way related to Islam, then maybe they fuck heads has no claim to be doing it for Islam.

However, the majority quiet Muslim can't do that as they know jolly well that such tactics are allowed and mentioned in the Koran. Hence, giving the manipulated few, reasons to call it their Jihad war against non-Muslims, and they will become heroes if and when they succeed in their struggles.

If the whole world view killing of innocent people (and non-Muslim for these fuck heads) in the same light as killing of their own parents, and to be condemned no matter what and even if they succeed in their cause, and if the whole world can view taking hostages of innocent people (and non-Muslim for these fuck heads) in the same light as taking hostage of their own parents, and to be condemned no matter what and even if they succeed in their cause, then maybe these fuck heads may think twice about doing such acts.

However, as we can see in this forum, there are still many people who think it is ok to take hostages, but not when it's their next-of-kin.

It is ok to condemn such act of terror, just not when it's their next-of-kin.

It is ok to employ acts of terror if you succeed in your fight.

Don't forget, the innocent victims may not be your next-of-kin, they are the next of kin of others. For such acts of terror to be discouraged, it has to be viewed and condemned in the same light as acts of terror against the perpetrators' parents, and there is no honour for such actions no matter what the causes are.

Just look at how the fuckhead filipinos made the hostage murderer cop a hero. I guarantee you that there will be another hostage taker cum murderer hero in the philippine. Cos these filipino fuckheads approved of such act of terror.

You are mumbling. speak clearer and cogently

 

[rodent2005]

Don't you know how to read? ALL NON-MUSLIM were killed on the spot when captured.

They only let their own Muslim kind lived.

Ms. Lo was among a group of people captured. The terrorists then killed everybody except a Turkish couple who told the terrorists they were Muslims and three other women, including Ms. Lo.

Ms. Lo was killed in a second round of shooting.

Curiously, the Turkish lady mentioned Ms. Lo in the documentary and not the other 2 women. I wonder why. Was some part of the documentary edited out? Did the terrorists receive a call to kill the 3 women? I guess the only people who know what exactly happened will be the Turkish couple and the Indian intelligence.

 

[TracyTan866]

You sure that you are not here to show what a bimbo you are?

I don't have to and I am not here to defend LHL. I am here to post my view about your stupid statement.

I am glad that you said that you are not here to defend lhl...he is not defensible.

what statement of mine you dislike?

 

[Devil Within]

Silly when you said all hostages were killed by the terrorists

Watch the documentary. Let me direct you to start at 21mins of the documentary. http://terrorinmumbai2611.blogspot.com/.

They went into the hotel and start shooting whoever they see, they are not interested in taking hostages.

 

[Devil Within]

Ms. Lo was among a group of people captured. The terrorists then killed everybody except a Turkish couple who told the terrorists they were Muslims and three other women, including Ms. Lo.

Ms. Lo was killed in a second round of shooting.

Curiously, the Turkish lady mentioned Ms. Lo in the documentary and not the other 2 women. I wonder why. Was some part of the documentary edited out? Did the terrorists receive a call to kill the 3 women? I guess the only people who know what exactly happened will be the Turkish couple and the Indian intelligence.

She mention Hwei Yen because she was crying the loudest.

 

[TracyTan866]

Watch the documentary. Let me direct you to start at 21mins of the documentary. http://terrorinmumbai2611.blogspot.com/.

They went into the hotel and start shooting whoever they see, they are not interested in taking hostages.

How do you know they were not interested in taking hostages? You read their minds?

If you insist tt they were not interested in taking hostages, I have a simple question for you..did the terrorists take hostages?

 

[Devil Within]

How do you know they were not interested in taking hostages? You read their minds?

If you insist tt they were not interested in taking hostages, I have a simple question for you..did the terrorists take hostages?

Did you watch the documentary?

 

[TracyTan866]

Did you watch the documentary?

If you know the facts, just answer my question. dont rely on one documentary. Did the terrorists take hostages?

 

[rodent2005]

She mention Hwei Yen because she was crying the loudest.

Well it was a fact that the terrorists spoke on the phone before shooting Ms. Lo.

 

[TracyTan866]

Well it was a fact that the terrorists spoke on the phone before shooting Ms. Lo.

Thank you for being patient with DevilWithin and educating him..He just blabbered off without knowing the facts and trying to know what happened..

 

[Devil Within]

Well it was a fact that the terrorists spoke on the phone before shooting Ms. Lo.

Jumping to conclusion with your conspiracy theory? The terrorist was ON THE PHONE through out the rampage. Not just before Hwei Yen death. He was not called to check if Hwei Yen was a Singaporean or not. Sheezzz... The level of dumb people in this forum is really....

 

[Devil Within]

You are mumbling. speak clearer and cogently

It is not that it is not cogent enough, just that your level of intellectual ability is not up to it.

 

[TracyTan866]

It is not that it is not cogent enough, just that your level of intellectual ability is not up to it.

if you are cogent, i wonder why you seem to be standing alone against everyone else here? have u ever reflected on this fact?

BTW, I am still waiting for your answer to my simple question. either you dont have the answer or u r afraid to tell